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  1. Posted

    1 hour ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said:

    10 of these players are out of contract in 6 months time , including Pukki....so they wont care. Infact as of next week they can sign pre agreements with foreign based clubs

    Unbelievably we handed the 11th a new contract a couple of weeks ago when he should have been at the top of the list to have got rid

    Of the rest..what is their motivation to be promoted really?...knowing in all likihood we'd get battered every week again such is the club being totally not geared up to compete in the premier league

    Which 10 are out of contract? Sounds like a lot!

    Cantwell and Pukki are the obvious ones, who are the rest?

  4. Posted · Edited by kirku

    https://www.pinkun.com/news/23208151.norwich-city-keeping-dean-smith-post/

    1. Webber won't admit he royally screwed up his appointment
    2. Webber won't admit his transfers in summer 2020 were awful
    3. Webber won't admit his transfers in summer 2021 were awful
    4. Webber won't admit that he prioritised protecting his reputation
    5. Webber won't admit to being culpable for us probably being too skint to get rid of "Deano"

    I'm not a subscriber, but I hope that's the gist of the article

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    3 hours ago, essex canary said:

    The Champions League side. Not exactly, he went on loan tio their B team from us then the same to Livingstone in Scotland. Now no longer our player he joined an Austrian top division side at the start of this season. Yet to make a single appearance for them.

    I miss the days when people were saying he should've played instead of Pukki

  11. Posted

    3 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said:

    He is if he gets the ball in places where he can strike. I'm not going to readily praise Giroud as being almost the same standard as the man he replaced in Benzema (who is undoubtedly elite as this year's Ballon d'Or winner) without recognising that Kane, a not dissimilar striker who's also top (or joint) top scorer for his country, is clearly at a similar level, not to mention younger.

    Similar but not the same. Kane has yet to impact top tier games in the way Benzema has. And so consistently as well.

    His penalty miss might be indicative of that?

  13. Posted

    3 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said:

    Think Kane is to be fair.

    If England had the 2006 central defenders, so Rio Ferdinand, John Terry, Sol Campbell instead of the current crop, then I'd think it's a genuinely top-tier side. Until then England are gatekeepers for me.

    EDIT: By gatekeeper I'm using boxing parlance - a gatekeeper is a fighter that's close to winning world titles but not quite there, but will reliably beat those who won't make it at all. England's sub-standard spine is what makes them so, IMO. It's also why that attacking talent can't be fully unleashed.

    Good analogy - I agree.

    I don't think Kane is quite at the level to directly change games against other top teams in the way the truly special players do, though.

  15. Posted

    2 minutes ago, SwearyCanary said:

    I guess that’s fair. I’d suggest Bellingham has proved he is elite level this tournament, as has Saka. Foden will have to be utilised correctly, but my issue is that I don’t see him being by GS. I’m not talking Messi, Mbappe, Modric or Ronaldo (yuk) elite. But with three of these 4 dropping off the age cliff this only leaves mbappe. There is a whole lot of elite we have below this pedestal and one man on it. Despite him being outstanding he cannot win it single handedly. Probably 😂

    Bellingham has a long way to go yet. Rooney was probably the closest we've come and he was always just a bit short of the quality required at that truly elite level.

    Mbappe nearly won it single-handedly for France just yesterday!

  19. Posted

    4 minutes ago, SwearyCanary said:

    I guess we will have to see. What measure are you going by with Southgate at the Euros? 

    Too far away to make a call, as I said earlier, " International football is cyclical and hugely dependent on form, injuries, and truly elite players."

    Will Bellingham or Foden become "truly elite" in that timeframe? Will England's spine improve? What's the form and fitness of key players going into the tournament? 

    Far too early to say

  20. Posted

    1 minute ago, canarydan23 said:

    My point was that we have enviable depth. I've demonstrated that. You've rejected it because it doesn't fit your narrative and that's fine, but it remains the case.

    I'm sorry, but Henderson, Smalling, Ward-Prowse,  Bowen, Smith-Rowe, Eze, and Toney is not "enviable" depth.

    Let's park that disagreement for now and pretend that it is what you say it is - how does it help us beat the likes of France and Italy?

  21. Posted

    2 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said:

    Nope, the problem with England was the central spine. Stones and Maguire made some sense as a partnership as they've played together a fair bit so know each other's game well but long-term it's not ideal. At the same time, Stones is not quite elite. Maguire definitely isn't. I don't think either of them would get in France's best pair (although Stones would replace Otamendi for Argentina). 

    Maguire wouldn't get in France's squad, let alone XI.

    Would Stones make their squad? If Kimpembe were fit? Not sure

  22. Posted

    2 minutes ago, SwearyCanary said:

    Gareth Southgate doesn’t get our squad near them either, if only our squad was as good as Tunisia he might have a chance 

    Come on, we were having a reasonable debate. You're surely better than this.

    France's 1.5 XI got to the final and lost on pens. Once you accept that you'll realise that England don't have a deep squad, especially not in key positions, and even if they did, it's not particularly a strength when they lack any truly elite players. 

  24. Posted

    1 minute ago, SwearyCanary said:

    I never claimed it was a world beating second 11, but it beats pretty much every team we did actually beat at this tournament for me. 

    The French second string is good. I think ours is better. They also played players untested at international level, like Thuram. Not something Southgate would go for. 

    A bit disingenuous to claim Giroud (6 games) and tchouameni (7 games) are second string when they started most of the games this tournament. 

    It's not disingenuous in the slightest - Giroud only played because Benzema was injured. T-meni because Pogba and Kante were injured. Nkunku was also injured which (I think) is why they called up Thuram. They also left Martial behind.

    The fact is that we saw French squad depth at play - they reached the final shorn of 3 truly world-class players (2 of whom are amongst the best in their position of all time). 

    Jarrod Bowen and Chris Smalling don't get anywhere near that squad. Ever.

  25. Posted

    2 minutes ago, canarydan23 said:

    Eh?! Tchouameni played every minute of five out of seven of France's fixtures. Giround feature in every one. Kounde and Coman featured in six out of seven. Pavard, Mendy and Camavinga all were in the squad.

    I picked XI who didn't even travel. And they'd still have a decent chance against that team.

    It was a 2nd XI - I didn't claim it was a "left behind" team.

    It does highlight what true depth looks like though:

    Varane and Upamecano (I think) are 1st choice ahead of Kounde and Kimpembe. They also have Saliba, Konate, both Hernandezs, and Pavard. All can play CB.

     

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