YankeeCanary you really need to lighten up mate! Grinner and CityAngel merely pointed out that the passion displayed today was a good advertisement for football, in particular our division. Quite where you are coming from the lord only knows! As a matter of curiosity seeing as you raised the issue there were some points I wasn''t sure of. When you spoke of fans being more radical and innovative - do you mean we should leave the car at home and go to the game on unicycle? I dont think this will work with away games. When you pointed out this point that no-one understood before you "almost universally" recieved abuse. Didn''t you think to make it more clearer so that we could understand it the second time? You could may well leave yourself open to abuse once again. You say we would rather trust chance - unfortunately we all have to - you can''t have no luck!!! You either have good or bad luck, amongst the other seven million variables that make up a teams performance on that day. If you have the recipe for a perfect performance on match day than lets have it - oh! and could you pass it on to Man United as they had a bad day today, who did they lose to? Thats the trouble with Man United though isn''t it Yankee, they just don''t invest in a quality product and rely too much on chance!?! This product that is different, are you telling me that the whole City team is not what it seems, could they all be Mcvities biscuits... I had my suspicions about the Ginger Nuts but the Hob Nobs, well, I''d rather not go there!