The Bunny
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Pure fantasy.
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FWIW I'm not an Idah basher. He's actually impressed me this season, although not as much lately.
I just find it funny that when Idah blows an excellent chance, some people on here have such an agenda against Onel that they blame him for the chance he created from nowhere, rather than the guy who squandered it. The same thing happened after the previous match too.
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1 hour ago, JonnyJonnyRowe said:He wasn't the option Onel should have gone with on that break, and for me that was more criminal than the miss.
That is really stretching credulity. That was an excellent break and pass from Onel and Idah totally fluffed it.
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5 hours ago, It's Character Forming said:"it wasn't always pretty" ???? - did you ever see a game when Hughton was manager ? The only time it was "pretty" I can remember was when the players decided to ignore him.
I did indeed. Check my join date 🙂
It was rarely pretty but it beats losing every week. For context, we won 25% of the time under Hughton in the PL. Under Farke it was 12%.
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Say what you like about Hughton, but he is our 3rd most successful Premier League manager of all time (by win % or pts/game). It wasn’t always pretty, but it was effective.
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I do want to point out that I’m not a Gibson hater. I’ve been at games recently where he’s had a lot of stick from his own fans and I’m not ok with that. I’m just making the point that regardless of the tactics, the team do make a lot of individual mistakes.
Wagner isn’t sitting in the dugout with an xbox controller playing Fifa.
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55 minutes ago, RobJames said:eh ? He passed kit forward to Sorensen who was beaten to the pass even though being ahead of the attacker. This is the risk of using this idiotic tactic. Much as with the no marking in midfield. One of the other downsides to this stupidity is it lowers the chance of a quick attack as while we are pi ssing about with it at the back the opposition has a chance to mark our players.
See above, he had a much safer outball which didn't require passing it towards a marked player on the edge of his own box. It's not a tactic, it's just bad decision making. Gibson does that a lot.
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4 hours ago, Addick/Canary said:Thanks, Bunny, for putting up a picture which illustrates the post I made about 10 hours previously.
With attackers in position to block either direction, Gibson wasn't left with an easy option was he?
So the real question is, why pass to your own player who is going to get pinned into the corner, with virtually no out ball.
He did have an option. If you watch the clip carefully, you'll see a second or so before that he has the option of a low risk forward pass to Rowe but instead controls the ball with his left foot and cuts towards his own goal before playing the high risk pass.
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23 minutes ago, Jim Smith said:This is an area we constantly seem to get ourselves pinned into. Sides know if they press us there we will either attempt a risky pass and give it away or play a predictable ball up the line.
I don't disagree, but Gibson is still clearly at fault for this particular pass.
Pissing around at the back (if that is indeed the strategy) would probably work better with more technically capable defenders.
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16 minutes ago, RobJames said:Gibson was not at fault, as the pass was idiotic. It is one of the blind sides Wagner has along with the no marking policy. We invite trouble by constantly pssing about with it at the back. Lose possession there and you risk a shot on goal. It is where this nonsense about allowing the opposition to go unchallenged in the middle so you can dispossess them around the 18 yard box. That explains the number of shots Rovers and others are have.
Are we talking about the same incident? I'm talking about this, 35 seconds into the video when he passes it back towards his own goal instead of clearing and they nearly score from it
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Looks like we deserved to edge it based on those highlights, though Long had to make some great saves. Both sides were pretty wasteful.
There was a real lack of quality up front. Barnes' miss from 3 yards out at the end summed it up. Idah was also quite wasteful (failing to control the ball when in front of goal, firing straight at the keeper). Looked like we missed Sargent.
Then there was the usual suicide defending moment from Gibson of course. I don't know how they didn't score from that.
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17 minutes ago, hogesar said:Forget Wagner, Knapper, Webber (either or both depending how tinfoil hat about club operations you are), Delia, MWJ and Attanassio.
The players are putting in a shift. They deserve a little bit of vocal support at home. I dont rate Duffy but second half he was first to everything and totally committed. I dont rate Onel but he came on, defended from the front, put the effort in and ultimately helped deliver the winning goal.
At half time there was a thread on here quite rightly questioning if Barnes was even worth a place in the squad. But second half he was a huge reason why we won.
The atmosphere has been diabolical and during our terrible run I sort of understood it. But as we are now the players deserve it. They aren't dropping tools. They are certainly together and playing for the manager even if we all don't think he's necessarily the future.
As a football fan I don't understand why you wouldn't back them at the next home game from the off.
100%. I'm not a big fan of Wagner but the players don't deserve the reception they've been getting from fans lately, home or away. If you're going to go to a game, support the team. Otherwise you're part of the problem.
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It's hardly the same situation. Reading are in an atrocious state right now and will likely end up in administration very soon.
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49 minutes ago, The Real Buh said:The 80%ers love seeing our most creative player playing as a false Center back.
Who said that?
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I'm hardly one of Delia's 80%ers but I'm with the OP on this. Abusing individual players during a match is utterly braindead.
I was at the Millwall away game and the amount of abuse Ben Gibson was getting from our fans was just unreal. Gibson has committed a few howlers lately, but do you really think booing him when he touches the ball is going to improve things? More likely it'll have the opposite effect.
If you're going to a match then get behind the team or stay at home. Seems like a lot of fans are just going in the hope they can have a good whinge.
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@littleyellowbirdie gets to the nub of it. People complaining about how fans "standards have slipped" because we applaud a battling away win need a dose of reality. This simply isn't the squad which conquered the championship so easily. If you haven't adjusted your expectations by now then you haven't been paying attention.
There's been a huge regression in player quality started in summer '21 to this day. We've sacked two managers since then and it hasn't made the blindest bit of difference to the direction of travel.
Farke was a great manager at this level, but he needed those players to be successful. Look at his win record without Buendia in the team for evidence of that.
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I just don't understand the anti-Hernandez crowd. Sure, he couldn't hit a barn door when he shoots, but if you actually watch the games it's pretty plain to see what he offers: he scares defenders rigid and he can dribble through a tight defence and create a chance out of almost nothing. He's been unlucky not to have more assists. With better shooting and positioning from our other attackers, he'd have a lot more.
The guy was on the pitch for a lot less time than Sainz yesterday and his impact was significantly higher (and Sainz also blazed over the bar multiple times, but of course nobody mentioned that).
He's clearly coming into some good form right now. Maybe drop the agenda and give him some credit.
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We did deserve to win. We got two goals and Hull only got one.
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47 minutes ago, Addick/Canary said:Two in two games, plus the sitter Idah missed as well last week.
Exactly, and the Idah cross is far from the first sitter he’s teeed up this season only for it to go begging.
Even when the lad does well the fans are slagging him off, this week and last. It beggars belief.
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5 minutes ago, Ulfotto said:Still think it’s a stretch to say that Webber choose to sell Buendia rather than had no option to.
He was under contract, so to say it was a choice is a statement of fact.
Of course, disgruntled players can protest such decisions, and this happens (e.g Harry Kane skipping training when trying to push through a move to Man City), but this is almost always temporary. In the longer term, it’s not in the interests of a player to sulk, be docked wages and ultimately make themselves less attractive to potential bidders.
So let’s be clear: the club made the decision to sell Emi because they weighed the upside (money) against the downside and decided it was worthwhile. It’s impossible to predict exactly what would have happened if they’d elected to keep him, but the evidence suggests they got that decision catastrophically wrong.
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The recruitment which preceded that second PL season killed all chance of staying up. We lost two of our best players and failed to replace them in any meaningful way. That was the start of the downward slide which we’re still on today.
That said, I don’t think Farke gets a free ride. His overall record in the PL is the worst of any manager with more than 5 games in charge (including Dean Smith). I posted a league table back a few months back. Reproducing it here:
Sorted by Pts/game:
P W D L Win % Lose % Pts Pts/G Mike Walker 65 31 16 18 47.7% 27.7% 109 1.68 Paul Lambert 38 12 11 15 31.6% 39.5% 47 1.24 Chris Hughton 71 18 22 31 25.4% 43.7% 76 1.07 Alex Neil 38 9 7 22 23.7% 57.9% 34 0.89 Nigel Worthington 38 7 12 19 18.4% 50.0% 33 0.87 John Deehan 56 7 16 33 12.5% 58.9% 37 0.66 Dean Smith 27 4 5 18 14.8% 66.7% 17 0.63 Daniel Farke 49 6 8 35 12.2% 71.4% 26 0.53 Neil Adams 5 0 1 4 0.0% 80.0% 1 0.20 Gary Megson 5 0 0 5 0.0% 100.0% 0 0.00 Sorted by Win %
P W D L Win % Lose % Pts Pts/G Mike Walker 65 31 16 18 47.7% 27.7% 109 1.68 Paul Lambert 38 12 11 15 31.6% 39.5% 47 1.24 Chris Hughton 71 18 22 31 25.4% 43.7% 76 1.07 Alex Neil 38 9 7 22 23.7% 57.9% 34 0.89 Nigel Worthington 38 7 12 19 18.4% 50.0% 33 0.87 Dean Smith 27 4 5 18 14.8% 66.7% 17 0.63 John Deehan 56 7 16 33 12.5% 58.9% 37 0.66 Daniel Farke 49 6 8 35 12.2% 71.4% 26 0.53 Neil Adams 5 0 1 4 0.0% 80.0% 1 0.20 Gary Megson 5 0 0 5 0.0% -
Hwang has a good shot on him when in the right position, but he was almost never in the right position, or even anywhere near the ball. Most of matches he played he was totally anonymous. It was like playing with 10 men.
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5 hours ago, hogesar said:The first ball from Onel for Idah was a great chance but how many of us expected Onel to put that ball in a good area? How often does he do it?
You saw the goal, right? Onel actually puts in decent crosses quite a bit. Some are a bit wayward but he's generally pretty good at bursting into the box and putting balls into the danger area. He should have more assists, but a lot of that is due to poor finishing from our strikers. This is far from the first sitter missed this season following an excellent attacking run + cross from Hernandez.
As for Idah, I was firmly in the send on loan camp, but he actually has started to come good this season. He seemed to get dropped just as he was coming into form and he's been patchy since though. No idea why Hwang was picked vs Southampton; he had zero impact as usual, barely touching the ball (just like almost every game since we signed him). Idah should have been the clear pick while Sargent was out IMO. Dropping him for the useless Hwang clearly hit his confidence and he's a player who thrives on confidence.
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1 hour ago, daniel_grieff said:McCallum is the better of the 2 LBs. I'm surprised how much praise Dimi has got, this season. Were talking about a player that has never scored for the club. Granted, that's not his job, but never?
McCallum has already scored in his low number of starts, can occasionally cross well, and wins balls in the air/stands up to the physical stuff. I'm not saying that there's a lot of difference between the 2, just I think his ceiling is higher.
Sorenson is a solid enough player, but when we used him at LB it was just plugging a gap. He can't provide many of the things that a good full-back offers, he just doesnt lose that ball too easily.
I like Sorenson, but I don't see him as the answer to any of the problems that the team has, right now.
McCallum seems questionable defensively. There's been a number of goals against us lately where he's been jogging back when caught out of position or failing to block crosses or make interceptions (e.g the Southampton goal on Monday). Dimi seems more solid in that regard, and also offers a lot of pace and guile when attacking too. McCallum is still young, so will hopefully improve, but he's not at Dimi's level in terms of all round ability right now.
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Aboh and Lima
in Main Discussion - Norwich City
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It is surprising that we're not seeing more youth players getting a chance this season. There isn't really a better time to do it. We're in the championship, still in the cup and the current players haven't exactly been setting the world alight. If we don't give youth players a chance then they will quite rightly seek other opportunities when they're no longer legally bound to stay.
For the club to be self-sustaining, we need our academy players to break through into the matchday squad and be successful. Otherwise we're spending millions developing players just for other clubs to benefit.