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The Wellingborough result was an astonishing victory for Labour. The very strong Brexit voting constituency saw a drop of 37.6% in the Tory vote, and a 28% swing to Labour. The combined right-wing vote of the Tories and Reform still got nowhere near the Labour total. That strongly suggests people are sick and tired of gaslighting right-wing bigotry and culture wars, the corruption and utter incompetence of 14-years of Tory government, and the dreadful failure of Brexit.
The Kingswood result saw a massive 16.4% swing to Labour. Reform UK, who pumped huge amounts of money and effort into their campaign, came a poor 3rd having performed worse than UKIP in 2015. What is clear is that Reform UK will not win a single seat at the next general election, and the Tories are going to get their ar*ses well and truly kicked.
For the record; I am Emily Thornberry.
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On 12/02/2024 at 05:59, dylanisabaddog said:I've often pondered how on earth Trump attracts voters. Are these people completely mad?
It transpires that they are. A religious organisation spent $14m advertising Jesus during the Superbowl.
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The first ever criminal trial of a former president begins March 25th. This will be fun
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-68289611?src_origin=BBCS_BBC
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5 minutes ago, Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB said:The unfortunate thing is that whilst the booing is clearly aimed at Wagner and not the players, the players are caught in the crossfire so to speak.
The booing of the subs was not particularly widespread near where I sat as most of us could see Sarge was struggling and we knew Onel had hurt himself in his tangle with Jamal Lewis.
Putting aside the reasons for the substitutions I think what upset some people was the defensive appearance of the substitution in a game we were bossing.
After the substitutions were made we conceded meaning we had gone from 2-0 up to all square at 2-2, which triggered the very loud and widespread "You don't know what you are doing" chant". It needs to be borne in mind that at 2-0 up we appeared to take our foot of the gas rather than putting the game beyond all doubt, and the habit of messing about with the ball at the back bit us on the bum (again).
None of this is meant to condone the booing which was (as it turned out) daft, the chant I can kind of get as it was borne out of frustration from losing a 2-0 lead in a game we were bossing.
In hindsight the chant was equally daft.
All of the above is about trying to put some context into what was a very strange and emotive night at Carrow Road.
In the words of the Sex Pistols "No one is innocent" and I really hope we win again against Cardiff on Saturday and that a truce breaks out.........
I don't really disagree with any of that analysis. I think it clearly true that the boos were aimed at the so-called "negative" substitutions. Indeed, I myself was hoping for a straight swap of Syd for Sarge. But I, like most people, didn't boo. Because I, like everyone in the crowd, had no idea what the reasoning and information was that informed Wagner's judgement.
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23 minutes ago, S_81 said:I don’t disagree with you re the message to the players coming on. Can’t be pleasant. But the fans didn’t ‘get it wrong’ in their understanding - as i believe they were wanting to see an attacking like with like in terms of Sydney for Sarge. That’s the point I’m making. The criticism at both QPR and Watford was the perception that we were going more defensive in the approach when the game had not been won.
Im not justifying the booing. But I think it’s important to recognise its basis.
And yet none of the fans were witness to the training sessions pre the game. None of the fans know what the state is of Syd's fitness levels, etc, etc. There was no excuse to boo. For me it remains an act of simple ignorance that unfortunately soured what was a very good squad performance.
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YESTERDAY: "The Plan is working" (Sunak, Hunt, et al)
TODAY: Recession officially declared
CONCLUSION: It's a sh*it plan, produced by a sh*it government, full of sh*it politicians.
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12 hours ago, S_81 said:I think, like at QPR, they were disagreeing with him seemingly trying to hold a slender lead. Rather than going like for like. That’s how i interpreted it anyhow
Indeed! And they got it completely wrong. The players substituted had declared themselves injured at half-time. It seemed pretty obvious at the time that the very early nature of those substitutions was a clear indication that it was injury concerns that motivated them. There simply was no excuse to boo. It was pig-ignorant. Why would any player want to stay at a club whose fickle fans turn on them like that? Imagine being Fassnacht and Nunez arriving onto the pitch to that roar of boos. Appalling!
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New spokesperson on the benefits of Brexit
https://x.com/mikegalsworthy/status/1659545687741046785?s=20
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17 hours ago, S_81 said:Supporters don’t boo.
Those that do need to stay at home.
Doesn’t seem to understand it’s his decisions being booed (rightly or wrongly). Not the team.
Both Hernandez and Sargent declared they were injured at half-time. A few minutes into the second half when their injuries persisted Wagner rightly replaced them. Fans booing did so without this knowledge. If ever there was a good example of why unknowledgeable fans shouldn't boo, this is it.
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Goldman Sachs they latest to point out what so many others have already pointed out. Brexit is screwing our economy
Brexit delivered 5% blow to UK economy, says Goldman Sachs
Britain has “significantly underperformed” compared with the European Union and the United States since the vote to leave in June 2016, the bank claims-
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The senile old git embarrasses himself everyday: https://x.com/g_gosden/status/1757033313594749221?s=20
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And now the senile old fool has called 9/11 Seven/11.
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1 hour ago, ricardo said:He is merely keying in to what most Americans think. Why should their tax dollars go to defending NATO countries that won't pay enough to defend themselves. Hence we now see countries scrambling to get their military spending up to scratch. It certainly seems to have frightened them into action.
Nope! He actually ENCOURAGED Russia to attack NATO countries. That goes way beyond saying NATO countries need to pay their fair share. US politicians have long recognised that a secure Europe is essential to their own interest in preserving the authority of a democratic free world. Empowering a dictatorship that has 1000s of nuclear warheads trained on the USA would be a disaster for American security, and indeed for its economic wellbeing. There's a good reason why every dictator in the world wants captain Bone Spurs to win the presidency; they know full well it would amount to a license to persecute and invade at will. For Trump; Putin, Kim Jong Un, and Xi Jinping are not enemies, they are his role models.
A Trump victory would see an explosion of conflicts around the world, and a very real risk of another world war breaking out. Whether we like it or not, America's traditional role as the policeman of the free world has prevented escalation of local conflicts into a world war. The surrender of that role in the guise of "America First" is both delusional and threat to to world safety.
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It now couldn't be clearer: ANYONE supporting Trump to become president is a TRAITOR willing to imperil the security of the UK and our European allies: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-encourages-russia-to-attack-non-paying-nato-allies/ar-BB1i6j4D
Donald Trump says he would "encourage" Russia to attack any Nato member that fails to pay its bills as part of the Western military alliance.
He said he had once told a Nato leader he would not protect a nation behind on its payments if it came under Russian attack, and would urge the aggressors to "do whatever they hell they want".
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Brexit border checks and badly planned farm subsidies could plunge the UK into a food crisis
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Disastrous Truss budget forced UK councils to take out massive 50-year loans at soaring rates
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15 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said:Sadly, it won't. But then I think that because I'm an elitist.
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1 hour ago, littleyellowbirdie said:Why are you all so obsessed with simplistic point scoring instead of unpicking what's going on? It's nonsensical for any local council to be responsible for funding a service for the whole UK. That's the issue here; as it pertains to all UK imports it's not a Brexit issue per se, only one that people are more aware of because some people are obsessed with Brexit.
Another thing worth bearing in mind is that pre-Brexit, this meat would simply be coming in from Europe unchecked instead of being caught like this. So much for EU standards.
Not a Brexit issue, hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahha!!!!
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Are the new Brexit border checks going as brilliantly as certain individuals on here would have you believe, or are they as shi*te as many of us expected. Perhaps Dover Council can discuss that question at their next meeting https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-68183854
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1 hour ago, Fen Canary said:I’m not going to defend Sunak as I think he’s rather useless, and it was politically naive of him to give Starmer the opportunity to turn the tables on possibly the only subject the Tories currently enjoy the upper hand.
I simply get tired of all the faux outrage. Nobody was actually offended by anything Sunak said, and anybody with half a brain knows it was a dig at Starmer and had absolutely nothing to do with the murder of Ghey
34 minutes ago, Fen Canary said:When have I ever said I dislike trans people? You know nothing of my dealings with or opinions of them, so stop insinuating that I’m some kind of bigot unless you have evidence to back up your accusation. Accusing people of bigotry is simply a lazy way of trying to shut down a conversation when you’re unable to respond to the points they’re putting across
Herman is spot on in his observations about you. The give away is your crass comment "I simply get tired of all the faux outrage." It simply doesn't occur to you that people could genuinely be disgusted by attacks on transgender people, asylum seekers, and other minority groups. Because you don't find such attacks disgusting, you think you can dismiss the objections of people who despise such bigotry as mere "faux outrage". Such an attitude is typical of the far-right who wish to avoid addressing the hatred engendered by the sort of divisive bigotry that the likes of Sunak intentionally employ.
Very obviously, Sunak's jibe was aimed to undermine Starmer. However, equally as obvious, the jibe depended entirely on transphobic assumptions to give it its content (The utterly puerile "Oh look everybody! Starmer thinks women can have a willy"). It gave the entirety of the Conservative benches a damned good laugh; but not the parents of Brianna Ghey, nor the small community of transgender people in the UK who are victims of violence and abuse on a daily basis. Sunak could have reeled off his prewritten jibe about Starmer's putative U-turns without employing any mention of transgender issues, it would have made no difference to his political point. That he didn't, even when he knew that the mother of a transgender murder victim was visiting parliament that day, says everything about his grotesque moral judgement, and his willingness to employ prejudice in his personal cause.
The disgust is real, not faux. You might receive politer engagement if you simply accepted the fact that the people responding to you on this site hold their opinions sincerely. If you wish to continue to describe their deeply held values as "faux", then expect them to respond to you appropriately (as Herman has done).
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A dire warning from two of the best legal minds in the US that a Trump presidency could bring an end to democracy in America: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/how-to-steal-a-presidential-election-review-trump-and-the-peril-to-come/ar-BB1i49Ww?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=4032fcabd42c455c9a334b11df2a8ffc&ei=11
Lessig is a chaired professor at Harvard Law School. He views a second Trump term as calamitous. “He is a pathological liar, with clear authoritarian instincts,” Lessig writes. “His re-election would be worse than any political event in the history of America – save the decision of South Carolina to launch the civil war.”
Seligman is a fellow at the Constitutional Law Center at Stanford, focused on disputed presidential elections. He too views Trump uncharitably.
“Former president Trump and his allies attempted a legal coup in 2020 – a brazen attempt to manipulate the legal system to reverse the results of a free and fair election,” Seligman has said. “Despite all the attention on 6 January 2021 [the attack on Congress], our legal and political systems remain dangerously unprotected against a smarter and more sophisticated attempt in 2024.”
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1 hour ago, canarydan23 said:Caroline Cossey was born an intersex male. The genetic condition she had was is exclusive to males. She is a trans woman, has lived her gender for more than two years, undergone medical treatment and reassignment surgery and absolutely should be recognised now as a woman.
Indeed! Born with male genitalia and assigned a male gender. Changed her gender to fit with her lived experience, and opted to have surgery to reflect that. The choice was NOT determined by her biology but by her self-perception of what her gender truly is. The issues are extraordinarily complex, and not helped by those who think biology is the only issue that matters. What rights should be given to transgender people who retain their original biological genitalia needs very careful consideration. For example, I happen to be one of those who thinks if you have male genitalia then you shouldn't have access to women's changing rooms. But the issues deserve calm rational debate and the people concerned need showing respect. The numbers involved are miniscule, completely disproportionate to the level of hate that has been generated.
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Just now, canarydan23 said:Don't conflate intersex with trans.
You've missed the point. Caroline Cossey was born with a biology that did not determine her gender. The point is she is a woman. Would you treat as not a woman?
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Thanks son, that would be lovely.