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  1. [quote user="mrs miggins"][quote user="the bristol nest"]We beat Man U Arsenal and Man City last year didn''t we?[/quote]

    That was under hughton though, will adams be capable of setting up a game plan to counter the big teams? we will see[/quote]
    He got it right a couple of times. He also got it horrifically wrong several times result in 5,6, and 7 nil defeats.

  2. [quote user="LostTheFaith"]Yes, we are a poor side and are made to look poorer at times by other PL teams.

    Having supported NCFC since I can remember I have seen a lot worse. And I am over 50.

    The PL will always be an awful struggle for us. We have more entertainment In the championship where we are better financially placed to compete than most others.

    A yo yo club is not as bad as peeps think. More good years than bad.[/quote]
    That doesn''t explain what you saw that made you think Hughton could keep us up.

  3. [quote user="LostTheFaith"]I saw nothing yesterday that would lead me to believe that we will not ship 15 to 20 goals in our last four. Fulham were awful and we still lost.

    LDC, I admire your optimism. I had some 9 days ago, but time to give up. We have poor players and that is why we are where we are.[/quote]
    If we have poor players, isn''t that Hughton''s fault? Have we changed the entire squad since 9 days ago when you were so optimistic?

  4. What exactly was it about Hughton''s abysmal record this season that makes you think he''d have kept us up? Is it the record low goals total? The scintillating away form? The fact we''ve only won twice after going behind this season (and we have gone behind ALOT)? The blindingly obvious lack of chances created? The 5 strikers (including Holt) he has destroyed from being bang in form to being Dean Coney''s love children? The defence that is worse than Lambert''s (even though Hughton came in to shore up the defence and stop us leaking goals)? The constant maulings vs the big teams? The air of defeat as soon as we conceded a goal?
    What exactly gave you this confidence he would keep us up? We have never been as poor as this. Even under Roeder and Grant the football was better.

  5. [quote user="Rob Whites"]The fan recorded it. He managed to get his home number and rung him and started asking a load of questions. Cellino opened up to him but didnt know he was being recorded. Actually this was the interview that did him a lot of good in regards to a change of heart from the Leeds fans. Everything he was saying about how the club has been run in the past is what the people have been going on about for years (Bates and GFH era) He was bang on!!

    The clip was floating around and was on youtube at some point but may be down now.[/quote]
    That sounds legitimate. Couldn''t possibly have been staged for PR could it? Bloody hell you lot are gullible.
    Why exactly are you even on here? We hate Ipswich, we don''t give a f**k about Leeds. Like literally could not give a toss. I will look forward to playing Leeds next year no more than I will look forward to playing Yeovil or Forest.
    Go drink your pint of gravy or whatever you northerners do.

  6. [quote user="LostTheFaith"]Yes, I think we had the best chance of staying up keeping CH. just my humble opinion.

    Saying that, we have a squad of bottom six players where always likely to be where we are one of these seasons. We over performed last year and the year before. To blame only the manager is pointless and incorrect.[/quote]
    If you believe this, you''re a fu(king moron.
    If you are trolling, then you''re a fu(king moron with a pretty sad life if this is "entertainment" for you.
    Either way, you''re boring and a fu(king moron, so just pi$$ off.

  7. Absolute nonsense yet again.
    Teams have spent less than us and are doing better. That is down to better signings. Who''s head does that fall on? That''ll be Hughton''s then.
    Some of the team''s displays this season have been nothing short of disgusting. No heart, no passion, no fight. That is down to the manager and the players. The booing was a response to the $hit we were served up on the pitch. We pay good money to watch Norwich, when they play like they don''t give a toss, people have every right to boo. Justified, probably not helpful but then if more people had been vocal maybe the board would have swung the axe sooner and we wouldn''t be in such a horrific position.

  8. [quote user="kick it off"]Wolfswinkel didn''t duck. He''s failed miserably here but you''re just making things up with that. He went for the ball but lost the header to Sidwell. He certainly didn''t go with any conviction but he didn''t duck.
    The person the OP refers to is definitely Whittaker. It looks like Turner gives Whittaker a shout to leave it, Whittaker ducks, but Sidwel''''s flick then takes it over Turner''s head.
    http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/fulham-1-norwich-0-motd/
    [/quote]
    Oops just re-read your post and realised you said the same as me. He didn''t duck but lacked conviction. Apologies Iron-Stan, that''ll teach me to read properly before replying.

  9. Wolfswinkel didn''t duck. He''s failed miserably here but you''re just making things up with that. He went for the ball but lost the header to Sidwell. He certainly didn''t go with any conviction but he didn''t duck.
    The person the OP refers to is definitely Whittaker. It looks like Turner gives Whittaker a shout to leave it, Whittaker ducks, but Sidwel''''s flick then takes it over Turner''s head.
    http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/fulham-1-norwich-0-motd/

  10. [quote user="GJP"]

    [quote user="alex_ncfc"] The fact is, we can''t blame Hughton now, he''s gone.  [/quote]

    I will be blaming him quite a bit. He failed to address long standing and obvious problems and seems to have spent a lot of money on the wrong players.

    [/quote]
    Ditto. Hughton owns a massive portion of the blame. That''s like saying "Well, you can''t blame Hitler for WW2 as he''s dead now". Absolutely Zero sense to that statement that we can''t blame Hughton.

  11. [quote user="mrs miggins"]I don''t think i''m confusing my opinion with fact (forgive me if i am). The reason why it was the wrong appointment is only a conclusion that you can make in hindsight. We lost the game. Hughton may have won the game. Hughton may have drawn the game. Hughton may have lost the game.

    Imagine (with hughton still in charge), you saw into the future, to this result and we lost. Therefore you sack hughton and get someone in. That someone is Adams.

    You get Adams in and like today, he loses. Therefore the board have made the wrong appointment.

    If anyone can explain why i''m wrong in a better way other that ''hughton got us into this mess'' i would like to hear it. In what way was Adams'' appointment the right hing to do with 5 games to go.

    Its the same if Adams manages keeps us up, it would be the right decision to have appointed him[/quote]
    You completely undermine your point here. The truth is it''s too early to judge whether Adams appointment was right or wrong in the context of who was available. You can''t say "It was the wrong decision" because firstly, you don''t know how anyone else would have done, in exactly the same way you are saying no-one can say it was the right decision. Secondly you can''t say "It was the wrong decision" then go on to contradict yourself by saying "but if he keeps us up it was right". That''s a ridiculous statement. Well it was definitely wrong, but it might have been right. You are certainly confusing fact and opinion as the fact cannot change. If it was the wrong decision, it was the wrong decision, you can''t just say it was the wrong one unless it proves to have been the right one.
     
    If the decision was a simple choice between keeping Hughton, or sacking him and replacing him with Adams then undoubtedly the latter was the right choice. We would have rolled over and died today, probably getting hammered in the process if we had stuck with Hughton... and no that is not undeniable fact, but it is a logical conclusion based on all reasonable and relevant information and evidence, such as two years worth of watching the team rolling over and dying away from home. 

  12. [quote user="alex_ncfc"]I also feel emotionless about the whole thing, having spent the last 3-4 months expecting relegation, and I am not overreacting like all those who''s OTT positivity with regards to the Adams appointment had them expecting big wins today, RVW scoring, and a whole host of unrealistic things!

    The fact is, we can''t blame Hughton now, he''s gone. It''s all very well people saying he left us with this mess - no - the board did by not sacking him. It was Adams responsibility to win the game today. The board *clearly* made this decision hoping for "new manager syndrome" to kick in and it has backfired spectacularly.

    That''s it for us.[/quote]
    Easy to say that the board should have sacked him but Hughton should have shown a bit of integrity and resigned. There was no way in hell he was going to keep us up. The board should have acted, but equally, when they didn''t Hughton should have.

  13. [quote user="mrs miggins"]Of course we weren''t unlucky, we didn''t score and we didm''t defend well enough. Hughton got us into the is ''must win game''. who knows if he would have got any points from this game. I don''t know and you don''t know. But it was obviously the wrong decision to replace him with Adams (as the game plan showed, we were ineffective in the second half) as he lost.[/quote]
    Well then how does being "ineffective" in the second half show it was the wrong decision? 
    Under Hughton we were ineffective for 90 fu(king minutes every week. 
    I know Hughton had lost 6 in 6 away from home, got 2 away wins all season and has a record of P2 L2 at Craven cottage with 0GF and 8 against.
    If you think Hughton would have saved us then you''re nothing short of delusional. The players stopped giving a $hit under Hughton. 
    The board are to blame for sticking with Hughton, and Hughton is to blame for being beyond fu(king useless. Adams had the players giving it everything today, something we''ve not seen for quite a while.

  14. [quote user="mrs miggins"]Thats what happens when your game plan is to press and press and use all your energy in the first half. Had no energy in the second half. Unfortunately wrong decision to get Adams in - inexperience certainly shows.[/quote]

    Fuck off. You''re talking absolute fucking nonsense. Wrong decision was to keep that useless, clueless cunt who fucked our club royally over.

  15. [quote user="mrs miggins"]So it looks like we''re down, we lost to fulham. Unfortunately it was the wrong decision to replace adams with hughton. I''m afraid that is one thing that is not debatable.[/quote]

    Fuck off you stupid cunt. We''d have lost 4 or 5 and not had a shot under Hughton. As usual. If that useless cunt had pocked up a few more points we wouldn''t be in such a shit position.
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