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    Cam#6 - I like this nickname for Gary Karsa haha

    30th December 2009

    Cam wrote:

    That can be manipulated if it suits both - national newspapers and football clubs are glaring examples of same.  At executive level at  Mr Murdoch''s lot the notice is normally either six or twelve months but if they want to get shot of you they simply pay up the rest of the notice period.  Alternatively if you want to go they will let you do so to avoid a disaffected member of staff hanging about or put you on "gardening leave" to annoy the buyer.

    But there has to be an agreement of sorts either way.  And there wasn''t when PL departed nor was there for Mr Culverhouse or Who Knows What This Bloke Actually Does both walked out on a match day apparently to complete unemployment - unless they knew something of course.[:D]

     

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    Cam#5 - David McNally

    5th June 2010

    There is something deliciously funny about this which appears to have eluded the Norwich Evening News.

    Either Mr Cowling is remarkably prescient or someone tipped him off.

    McNally's nickname at Fulham started off as Him but then became Himmler which caught on.

    Perhaps they could do a follow up along these lines? Or not, as the case may be.

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    Cam#4 - perhaps these words should be his epitaph

    23rd Jan 2100

    Cam wrote:

    That's the great thing about being a journalist. Everybody hates you unless, of course, they actually agree with you in which case they send you herograms sometimes.



    Such is life
    And life is such
    And after all it isn't much
    First a cradle, then a hearse
    It might have been better
    But it could have been worse

    Like the majority of football message boards it's just words..................

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    Cam#3 - lovely tribute to Keith Alexander 

    17th March 2010

    Cam wrote:

    Just to round this thread off, Keith's family asked for his funeral to be a celebration of his life rather than an example of doleful mourning. Whatever anyone says it is always hard to describe a funeral as an occasion of rejoicing but everyone tried their best at Lincoln Cathedral and it came closer than most events of their kind that I have experienced

    The great Cathedral was filled to capacity with well over 2000 people in attendance with many ordinary fans in the colours of clubs Keith had been associated with and not a few wearing his trademark yellow socks which was a nice touch. Among them were the professionals, players past and present from all over (they more formally adorned), managers, assistants, coaches from the Premier League through to non League and local, Paul Ince, Trevor Brooking, Mick McCarthy, David Moyes, Chris Hughton were among some familiar faces who sat among some unfamiliar faces from the world of non league.

    The streets leading to Uphill were lined by crowds on both sides of the road as the cortege made its way to the Cathedral and many applauded as he was "walked" to the Cathedral itself.

    There were moving eulogies from his son, a poem from his brother and the Bishop of Lincoln, an Imps fan, broke with normal Church of England convention in his remembrances by describing Keith as "one HELL of a Manager."

    At his family's request his two favourite songs - Mr Bojangles and No Woman No Cry - were movingly performed by a choir of senior pupils from Lincoln's Minster School.

    As he was carried from the Cathedral to his last rest those present broke into spontaneous applause which duly echoed back off the stone and made it sound like many thousands more.

    In a private ceremony for the family he was laid to rest in the village cemetery at St Chad's, Dunholme.

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    Cam#2 (sorry it's a bit crude, but still funny)

    2nd Sept 2009

    Cam said: 

    When the first edition of last Saturday's Daily Express arrived on the News Desk, the Editor (Peter "Mentally" Hill) went beserk because there were no less than five headlines containing the word "finally."

    One of them was on a two page spread on pages 40/41 which read: "Can Dec finally match Ant?"

    The Editor insisted that it be changed to: "Can Dec at last match Ant?"

    Owing to a technical glitch only Page 40 got changed to read "Can Dec a"

    Thus it was that the final edition carried the headline:

    "Can Dec anally match Ant?"

     

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    Cam#1 - the curious case of the pitch being eaten
     
    Cam posted: I've seen three to one side in local soccer but it was many many years ago - all I remember is that involved Finchingfield Rovers being on the receiving end in the long gone and probably forgotten "North Essex League".

    Oh, and the incredible Cup Final in same between Hempstead and Finchingfield Rovers which Rovers won 7-5 in normal time but in which a penalty area was entirely eaten away.

    But that's another story of a football age long gone...................
     
    It was played at Steeple Bumpstead (where else) - after two days of torrential rain, leaving the pitch with lakes outside both penalty areas and where several shots and free kicks towards either keeper floated to them.

    At half time teams and spectators fled to the Village Hall (no changing accommodation on the field). Because the ground was too wet for the line machine to "take" they had marked everything out at one end with what looked like sawdust.

    It wasn't sawdust. It was animal feed and at half time one pig and about 40 chickens escaped from the nearby allotment and ate most of it..........

    There was a penalty to Hempstead in the second half and as the "spot" had disappeared the referee had to pace it out.

    About 1965 it was - it made page one of Monday's Daily Express and I got £300 which was more than I earned in a week for the long gone Essex Weekly News.
     
    edit - date 25th Sept 2009
     

  7. Posted · Edited by Pugin

    This is an offshoot of the Bill/City1st thread which attracted quite a lot of interest. Getting to grips with Camuldonum's footprint in cyberspace isn't too difficult if you know where to start looking.

    It helps to know what his interests were - Colchester United, Lincoln City, Norwich City, politics, highbrow classical music, buses coaches and trains from the post-war period, hedgehogs, English folk dance and songs, ancient English history, and who knows what else? That's enough to be going on with.

    It also helps to know that Camulodunum was the Roman name for Colchester, and Cam's user names tend to derive from the word.

    There are thousands and thousands of Cam's posts out there. On the Pink 'Un and Colchester message boards alone I have found well over 13000. I have picked out maybe half a dozen as a bit of a tribute to him and I will post them on this thread. I don't pretend to have read more than a small percentage of his overall output!
    Cam tended to be very serious on the Pink 'Un message board, but there was also a very funny side to him which appears elsewhere. He knew what buttons to press to get the classical music buffs into an absolute frenzy. I think they deserved it. His writing style was unfailingly easy and elegant. We can all be envious of that.

    The post below is my all-time favourite. I played a lot of football in the old South Norfolk Sunday League, and it reminded me of games out in the wilds at places like Withersdale, Eye, Homersfield and Ditchingham.

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  9. Posted

    1 hour ago, Canary dwarf said:

    It's a tough one but we have quite e few players who are not good enough for the prem,but good enough for the champ ie stieper ,onel ,Tom,Lewis,rupp,etc and promising kids idah,femewo,so probably hardly any .

    I would never include Jamal in this sort of list for the simple reason that he still has a huge amount of improvement to come and there is little doubt in my mind that he will have a long Premier League career. I would put him in the same category as Todd who sets himself apart because of technique, desire and how he reads the game. With Jamal it is his speed and athleticism that gives him every chance of becoming a really top player. He just needs to build his experience, his self-confidence, and his know-how. His real 'arrival' could be next season. 

    Others - Max who has been great since literally day one, and Ben - are probably nearer their full potential. Emi could go either way. It's a big call as to whether Farke puts full trust in him for the run-in. In front of his adoring crowd on Friday is a perfect opportunity to put it to the test.

    It's a crying shame that these guys will need to pull off a miracle if they are to continue their progress in a Canary yellow shirt next season 😞

     

       

     

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    3 hours ago, nutty nigel said:

    This must be a tad embarrassing for those who insisted Cam was fake...

    I have far, far too much time on my hands at the moment, so I have spent part of the day trawling the web to find Cameldonum's finest moments from years ago on the various  football and non-football sites he frequented.

    I started out looking for the old BBC 606 message board because I seem to remember that Cam and 1stWizard featured on there.  I was hoping for some 1stWizard humour too, but I am not sure he was ever funny. Unfortunately, all records seem to have gone. Not surprising maybe, as the BBC closed the site down because they were worried about providing a platform where libellous attacks were commonplace.

    Anyhow, I have found some genuinely funny items from Cam without even starting to look at this forum. As soon as I get home and on a decent PC, probably a week on Monday, I will get two or three examples posted on here as a tribute to the old boy. Bear with me!

     

      

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  11. Posted · Edited by Pugin

    On 23/02/2020 at 18:09, nutty nigel said:

    Thanks for this slim.

    I posted before that I feared the worst after a similar thread on here. Cam sent me a lovely email after we were relegated in 2014 and we exchanged a few more emails . When he was mentioned on here a few years later I emailed him but got no reply.

    While he was posting in here he always took part in Rays Funds but would never make the final picks because he said that should be for Norwich fans.

    Me and Ray always imagined him posting on here late at night while having a single malt.

    RIP Cam

    Cameldonum was capable of random acts of kindness. Over a long period of time, I was working on pulling together a lifetime's memories from a reasonably well-know ex-Football League manager who had enjoyed several eventful decades inside the game at various clubs. It was a labour of love, not a commercial project.

    There came a point where the fans of one of the clubs he had managed decided that they wanted to fun-raise to erect a permanent  tribute at their stadium.

    Completely unprompted, and requesting no publicity, *Ian offered to pay the difference between the sum needed and the sum raised.  True to his word, a reasonably large cheque arrived enabling the project to get over the line.

    Nutty Nigel - he always said he never touched alcohol, but I much prefer your idea that he got through the night with the help of a warming whiskey 🙂

    One thing is sure - he was a colourful character and a man of many parts.

     

    Edit - Oops. *Alan, not Ian! Thanks to Norfolkbroadslim for pointing this error out.

    Although Cam was smart enough to see into the future so he was bit of a Lost Prophet in his own way.

     

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    5 hours ago, TIL 1010 said:

    Jas the Barclay King is a regular on Facebook and by the chap from Colchester you mean Cameldonum.

    Cameldonum was Alan Watkins a onetime Sun journalist who sadly died in late 2016 at the age of 74. I crossed swords with him a number of times because he was a cantankerous old stick but he did make a mark in the world of newspapers in the glory days. I actually attended his funeral in Burnham-on-Crouch, which a very sad and sparsely attended affair.

    Alan was originally from Lincoln and held shares in Lincoln City. He had maintained good contacts in the game, and on the occasions when he was minded to be helpful, he had an excellent contacts book.

    When it came to recounting his life it was almost an impossible task as he interspersed factual information with imaginary details, so I never did actually find out whether he had actually played in goal for for Aldershot Reserves and whether he broke the news of Robert Maxwell's watery death. Both of these things he claimed.

    Another unusual fact, Alan was an afficianado of bus and train timetables! Also a classical music buff. Until very near the end he ran a night desk for a news agency,  and you will probably find that a lot of his posting was in the wee small hours when UK newsdesks are quiet.

    I am unable to search or provide a link from the device I am using, but if anyone would like to Google Alan Watkins on the Burnham and Maldon Express website, I think you will find details of his life, his death, and funeral details.

    RIP Cameldonum. Gone but not forgotten. 

    Edit - just remembered another of his extravagant claims - he claimed credit for breaking the story about Enoch Powell's  notorious 'Rivers of Blood' speech at a low-key fringe gathering in Wolverhampton in the 1960's.   

     

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    The most shocking comment here is the deliberate connection of paedophilia with homosexuality. You really do need to understand the difference if engaging in debate.

    'Rent boys' and 'call girls' are intentionally derogatory expressions which largely disappeared in the 1960's. They were almost exclusively used to describe sexual encounters between politicians and prostitutes. 

    It's a long time since I read about Justin's troubles in America, but I seem to remember that he had a relationship with a young athlete who subsequently pursued an action which could have resulted in financial reward. Of course, it was never tested in the Courts.

    Injury and prejudice curtailed Justin's career, no one has ever previously suggested that 'depraved' behaviour played a role. 

    Was your post serious? I cannot honestly believe it was.

     

     

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    9 minutes ago, glory.win or die. said:

    My first thought is him ending john o'Neills career and then the elbow on gary mabbut...are 3rdly his **** attempts on record breakers at kicking a ball hard

    'Thief' and 'scumbag' were two of the words used by his former colleagues to describe John Fashanu during some research I was doing for a Wimbledon publication last year.

     

     

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    I am confident we can remain unbeaten at home until the season end, based on recent performances. It becomes a mini-season, but the last six games are all there to be won, Imagine the momentum and belief that could snowball at Carrow Road. It could be set up for a thrilling finale that would match last season's enjoyment levels.

    We will need a bit of luck facing Leicester City as are a side that could score against any side as they are so rapid and inventive in the final third, so the first challenge is huge. After that, there is no team to be terrified of because if we defend properly we are now good enough to keep clean sheets. We have improved defensively as the season has developed, Pukki has it within him to hit a scoring run, two or three or the youngsters are getting better and better, Emi may be key (or not), and Tim Krul is currently looking worth a goal a game. 

    Above all else, the team has a togetherness that other strugglers can only dream about. Lifelong heroes could emerge over the next two months.

    I am missing the next three games recovering from an operation, which breaks my heart, but I will be there for the run-in, confident this battle will run until the end of the season. 

    Many, probably most, will disagree, as will the bookies, but I couldn't be happier to stick my neck out. Who is with me?

     

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    1 hour ago, All the Germans said:

    What about Stiepermann? He was excellent last year, much of what we did well came through him too and I think written off a little too early this season. 

    `But Steipermann wrote himself off. He started in the team at Anfield, had three good chances and smashed them wide / over. That was probably his best game of the season. Since then he has fallen short every time he's been selected, and in fairness to Farke he persevered with Marco far longer than most managers would have done. You can't pick a team on sentiment.

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    PLEASE!!!!! Someone has to make this point - making substitutions is not a guarantee of breathing new life into the side. This season the reverse has tended to be true. Substitutions have done little to lift the side and on many occasions have seen performances peter out and end in defeat. 

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  19. Posted

    If you accept that Traore is Wolves' most dangerous attacker, then it makes sense to have a plan to counter him.

    Todd was engaging him early in the home games earlier this season and this helped to prevent Traore getting into his stride and becoming a major influence.  Even more importantly, when Traore was playing for Middlesbrough last year, Jamal handed him brilliantly and largely snuffed out his threat. Therefore it would make no sense at all to break up the Jamal / Todd combo on the left.

    In other areas of the pitch, there is a good argument to restore Emi, based on the fact that in the Autumn when he was dropped and then bought back into the side he responded with some much-improved performances. Hopefully. history repeats itself. We need some heroes to emerge in the final furlong of the season. 

     

  20. Posted

    11 minutes ago, Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB said:

    The other positive attributes in Todd's favour are that he is young and homegrown. I have no doubt he will be playing for a top six Premiership team, whether it will be Liverpool we will have to wait and see. 

    I disagree about the comment regarding Todd and his defensive work rate, he demonstrated that side of his game very well last night.......

    So right. Trent Alexander Arnold escaped him just once, when we were pushing on and taking risks.

    I suspect that what Liverpool found most impressive is that Alexander Arnold has had two of his hardest games of the season against Norwich. We effectively stifled his attacking threat.

  22. Posted

    10 minutes ago, Il Pirata said:

    It's part and parcel of being a footballer, or any professional in the media spotlight. The only immunity is to stay away from social media. 

    I like Todd, and in no way condone abuse of any kind. In terms of footballing ability though, I'm in the minority and remain far from convinced. I really can't seem him being a regular EPL player. He's much more of a Murphy than a Maddison, I think Norwich will cash in on the 'hype,' and rightly so.  Ultimately I see Cantwell having a successful career at championship level. He isn't better than a Pritchard or Hoolahan, who on their day are (were) players stuck in the 'too good for the championship but not EPL quality' category. Huckerby another example.

     

    So why do you think Jurgen Klopp gave Todd such a warm hug and quite a few words in his ear out in the middle of the pitch after the final whistle yesterday? It's not because he can see that Todd has the potential to be the next Alex Pritchard. He didn't do it to any other Norwich player.

    Let's prepare a little checklist of what is required of a player to play for a club like Liverpool:

    • Superb technique, touch and balance
    • Awareness
    • Willingness to work selflessly for 90 minutes
    • Fitness level to last the pace
    •  Football intelligence, without which everything else is irrelevant
    • Good character
    • Consistency

    There could be other qualities to be added, of course, but my point is that Todd has reached a level where he can aim high.

  23. Posted

    6 minutes ago, Ramrod said:

    The only possible answer lays with Todd himself. 

    He needs to find an ability to reassure himself he is hugely supported by almost all Norwich fans and that trolls might not be Norwich fans at all or else are individuals with their own shortcomings using Internet anonymity to sate themselves. 

    Todd must have any number of positive mentors to listen to, it is one of the main aspects of Farke's management. 

    If he is simply adopting the all too common modern trait of seeking victimhood then that is where he himself needs advice. 

     

    To be fair, it was probably only a passing comment within a quite lengthy discussion with the Telegraph columnist. It has been highlighted and headlined because mental health is so high profile at the moment. So no, Todd's not seeking victimhood; he's just honestly answering a series of questions with disarming honesty and the Telegraph and EDP have headlined it to their perception of newsworthiness.

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