Jezzard
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I’ve never said it before, but impressive refereeing. Unlike all the others, he correctly gave yellow cards for the first deliberate foul regardless of the minute which meant that Plymouth couldn’t keep doing this throughout the match. Another great decision was giving Stacey a free kick when he was knocked off balance outside the box but tried to stay on his feet so fell down a second or so later. All other referees seem to punish players for trying to stay on their feet. Re the penalty it was a great call as the Plymouth player instigated contact, but I was surprised as this is always given as a penalty, even after VAR. It’s the sort of non award that I’d hope VAR would have solved, but of course has made it worse by encouraging players to make contact.
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There goes that dream European Formula 1 position at Stoke City
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I’ll have five and no one will agree with number 5.
1) Wynton Rufer’s non work permit costing us more trophies in the 80s and 90s.
2) Blackburn gazumping us for Patrik Andersson in 1993 costing us the title
3) The ITV digital ‘money’ and Worthy taking the club to a permanent higher level. From that season we gained another 10k fans who have stayed with us and seemingly means better good times and in the bad times we can only fall so far.
4) Alex Neil constantly playing Jerome over Mbokani costing us prem survival in 2016
5) that Chris Hughton keeping us up in 2013 starting with no momentum and with refereeing that cost us 10 or so points, through making solid premier league signings was a bigger achievement than Paul Lambert’s and the best managerial achievement this century.
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The most positive thing from the match, loved this brave refereeing. Chiellini should have been off in the Euro final for the assault on Saka but sadly the referee wasn’t brave enough. Really any clear delberate foul anywhere on the pitch should be a red as a) it’s deliberate so a player can decide against it b) there should be no incentive to make a foul and take a yellow and c) these are amongst the most dangerous in terms of muscular injuries as are unseen and unexpected by the opponent who may not be able to take avoiding action
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Yes one midweek was tough; fast and slightly behind him though a top striker would have cushioned it in. Yesterday’s was woeful. It wasn’t in front of him. Just a lack of ability
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1 hour ago, Pugin said:At heart I am a paid-up member of 'Against Modern Football', so anything that torpedoes the Premier League big boys is fine by me.
Which takes us to Saudi Arabia trying to muscle in at the head of the table of world domestic football.
Modern Football sees an increasing gap between the Premier League and the Championship. Elsewhere someone has rightly said this season's Championship is the most mental ever. True enough, but Luton, Sheff Utd and Burnley are demonstrating that being outstanding a League below cuts little ice in the Premier.
So, once Saudi has raided the PL for players to the point where a critical mass of players has been procured, and the process becomes commonplace, might we just see a closing of the gap between PL and Championship? Might some PL investors decide they can't beat them, so they will join them. I do hope so.
Possibly, had the same thought. Once the three foreign player rule was removed in the late 90s, it decreased competive balance between European leagues and within them. At the same time more and more money came in, to the greatest extent in the PL, allowing clubs access to unlimited talent pool with high spending power. This really affected clubs like NCFC. If the Saudi spending lasts (or if other leagues catch up with PL spending power) it will decrease the talent pool whilst inflating prices of all including average players. You’d expect this will increase competitive balance, so decrease the gap within the PL and between the PL and championship. Maybe significantly, maybe not but could help NCFC. Ignoring the unpleasantness of Saudi sports washing, I’d be more than happy for NCFC to be a mid table club in poorer quality PL.
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12 hours ago, By Hook or Ian crook said:Wynton Rufer probably the best player we’ve had who you’ve never heard of. Signed by Ken Brown in 82, never played a game ended up at Werder Bremen win the bundasliga, won the German cup, won the cup winners cup and was top scorer in the champions league in 93/94.
Yes my memories as a kid of mid/ late 80s to pre Mike Walker was matches where we created loads of chances, Fleck netting one in four and the opposition getting a lucky point. We’d have maybe gone even further with Rufer?
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And we were possibly close to signing Patrik Anderson in January but outbid by Blackburn…another if only had we strengthened the defence
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On 27/11/2022 at 23:15, kirku said:Laudrup was good but you're suggesting he'd be the most valuable player in history which is absurd. He wasn't the best player of his generation by a large distance.
Not even the best player in his family
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I would have been excited if it was or before 1998, after which we realised that there were also crap Brazilian footballers.
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Not that I particularly want to watch the last match, but it looks like the club aren’t hosting the full stream of matches a few hours after the final whistle - anyone found/ know anything different?. They did it for all games in 20/21 for free but I guess this was due to covid. Last season there was full 90 for EFL cup matches. But behind a paywall this year?
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On 27/07/2022 at 04:41, Satriales said:Might be best to go for a month by month to begin with to see if we are any good!
Yep. Last two years in the championship we’ve been on the international 3pm match 10 times plus about 10 on sky so you’ll only get half the games live.
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8 hours ago, CardiffCanary said:Embodies everything that was wrong with this season. Like Gilmour (also crap) came with a big reputation… Played well a few times, got injured, completely invisible now…. return to sender.
Great long throw 🤣
But Unlike Gilmour at least he played well a few times
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3 hours ago, Creedence Clearwater Couto said:Interesting that Brentford have to play both Leeds and Everton. Highly unlikely, but if Everton win their game in hand and Bee's lose to both, the gap could be closed 2 and 3 points.
They couldn't bottle it, could they? 😍
Hotting up to be a nice little relegation battle. Something to keep NCFC entertained whilst sunning it up on the beach as per..
Yes and Southampton too. They’re playing Brentford this weekend so if there’s a positive result, whoever looses could be still on 40 points going in to the final weekend needing something. If that was Southampton, they’d only have two to play and the home match is v Liverpool.
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For a second I was sure Dean Smith was talking about Billy Gilmour.
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VAR can consider any potential red card, which this was; if it decides it is not a red card, does it then award the perceived correct decision - yellow and free kick in this case if no red card, or does it just stick with the referee's initial incorrect decision….?
In practice this would never go to VAR as keepers are always annoyingly favoured for out of box handballs - it should nearly always be a red if an attacker is in the vicinity
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7 hours ago, daisy said:VAR won`t review a handball outside the box.
Yes but it is a potential red card for denying a clear chance - if he doesn’t handle the ball at all ( i.e. slides passed the ball as he knows he won’t be able to handle the ball without taking it outside the box) Pukki has a tap in. So it should be looked at, even if the outcome is a free kick and yellow card. But that’s probably too complicated for an offical or match of the day…
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Funny one the Alison one. Looked a clear handball outside the area so which counter-factual (i.e. he does not deliberately handball it outside the area) do we use say whether he stopped a clear opportunity or not? If he slides passed the ball and doesn’t touch it Pukki has a tap in (so red card). Or do we say he picks it up and releases it on the line and Pukki has no chance (yellow card). Or do we ignore the laws completely, not use VAR at all for a possible red card (as it is one scenario..), and move on.
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And had Rashica put that chance away in the first minute v Man City, would it have been allowed as yes he was in an offside postion , but the defender made the next and deliberate contact with the ball? Hate this interpretation and it has no logic but it has been applied this year - France winner in Nations League final, an own goal Watford scored v Liverpool, and I think an Everton goal v Leeds last weekend that wasn’t even mentioned as possible offside.
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Joe Royle came in in a background role month
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15 minutes ago, king canary said:Exactly.
I'm not saying 'McLean is the cause of all our issues dur de dur de didly durr.'
I'm saying the fact a player as deeply limited and out of his depth as him is closing in on 50 Premier League starts for us highlights how badly we've got it wrong these past few years. Upgrading a player like him shouldn't be that hard.
Weren’t West Ham linked with McLean in 2020 just before we went down? Guess they were relegation candidates at the time.
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Not necessarily being critical; I know that (defensive) midfielders’ work often goes unnoticed and keeping the shape is important…but after 80 minutes or so I really had to think whether he was on the pitch or if I’d read the line-up incorrectly. The commentary didn’t mention him. Was I just not concentrating enough, or did he have a match where he never had the ball for more than one second? On watching the highlights I notice he ‘assisted’ Normann’s assist for the penalty but didn’t note this at the time.
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And if so is he £10m better? Couldn’t that have gone on a £15-20 striker instead of Sargent or getting in Ajer pre season or any number of options to improve the squad….
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22 hours ago, hogesar said:Well that doesn't make it sh*t, that's literally what it does. The chances of scoring from 35 yards are far less than scoring a penalty, shockingly.
Not what I wrote. In the first scenario, the keeper making the save increased probability of scoring/ XG from 0.1 to 0.9 without the attacking team doing anything. In the penalty scenario, the XG at the point when a player is fouled is variable and usually much lower than the 0.85 or so XG for the penalty kick - see Lees-Melou v Leicester for example; when he was fouled, the XG was about 0.05. These are are but two examples where XG is biased (sh1t). Another more common one is when a team is in the lead tactically sits back and allows the opponent to have numerous half chances (0.1 XG) which accumulate and may then exceed that of the winning team after 90 minutes. XG can be useful as long as its limitations is acknowledged, but is interpreted by many pundits as forming a justice league, for which it is inadequate.
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These situations are almost always given onside. Guessing something to do with the Lino thinking a) a pro footballer wouldn’t misjudge the line and b) the attacking team gets no advantage from being 50 cm further forward. Of course neither should be relevant to the decision making.