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  1. Nice report Ricardo, sums up all the relevant points as the game didn''t have much going on until they scored.

    The penalty was stonewall though, benefit of watching the game online and seeing replays. Tierney made a good show of trying to say walker dived, but in truth it was a rash challenge and he was lucky bunn saved his blushes!

    I also thought whittaker did well for a guy who''s been out since preseason, started to tire late on but who wouldn''t having to shackle bale!

    Snoddy put some quality balls in from set pieces which was nice to see after the Villa game! I agree it was a pretty decent performance from all involved considering the lack of game time most have had.

  2. If those scores become results and Arsenal, Sunderland and Southampton go out, and one of Chelsea/Man U and Liverpool/Swansea are going out tomorrow. We will be in one of the weakest last eights we could hope for, assuming we beat Tottenham. If we then avoid one of the big two (presuming even a weak Liverpool will beat the Swans) in the next round, it will be our best chance of a visit to the final for years.

    I hope we go for it tomorrow and put out a strong team to beat Tottenham even more now, if scores stay the same.

  3. I always get annoyed when an almost entirely different 11 gets used for Cup games, if we don''t care about these competitions why do we bother playing in them? (I know we have to, but you know what I mean!)

    I understand staying in the league is important and therefore not risking players, but isn''t maintaining form, developing experience with a system, keeping partnerships developing (Bassong/Turner, Tettey/Johnson, a revitalised Holt/Hoolahan etc.) also important? Not to mention we could actually win this competition if we tried! Its the one cup that clubs our size are usually pretty competitive in.

    Whittaker is an enforced change, otherwise i''d like to keep it as ear to first 11 as possible and maybe give a chance to a couple who haven''t had it. We should look to win this.

    I know it will look significantly different, but i''d like something like this:

    Ruddy,

    Whittaker, Bassong, Turner, Garrido

    Snodgrass, Fox, Tettey, Pilkington,

    Hoolahan, Holt

    Maybe swap Pilkington for Surman and Wes for Butterfield. But i''d rather the core continued to play together, with a couple of changes.

  4. LDC "Its just that we need to see an end product from  him"

    er we did, he laid on an assist for the goal. That''s his role, not a second striker as others have pointed out.

    I always bang on about stats as evidence for opinion so its great to see your post Shack, a great read with a few extra ones I wasn''t aware of.

    Bethnal you are right he had more assists than any other Norwich player in the Premier league last year, I always bang on about that in a Wes thread, but it gets roundly ignored.

  5. The obvious person to me is Lappin. I love the guy, his loyalty and professionally while here has been exemplary. But we have two recognised left backs and Whittaker can apparently play there as well, so we don''t need him to cover LB and our midfield is chock full of more talented players. There''s no room for sentiment in football management and for us to improve on the squad he has to move on at some point.

    Chris Martin is probably the obvious choice as well, again I have nothing against the guy and think he''s a good player, but he is not playing and he probably needs to move on for his own development rather than be 4th/5th choice striker here if someone else comes in.

    Whittaker hasn''t played so seems an odd choice to suggest as R Martin is the only other real RB. Surman is a good player when needed, but shows the clubs evolution, he''s now a squad player/backup and is exactly the sort of player you want when injuries hit or your changing the system.

    If we get a new striker he needs to be a cut above what we have as otherwise there seems little point. If he''s a great target man I''m not sure that really helps matters as we have Holt but it would put question marks over Morison (Who at the minute I think is well worthy of a squad place) or if he''s a fast striker with an eye for goal you start wondering about Jackson, but if Martin went I would keep Jackson.

    The club has to evolve so some players inevitably have to move on, whether they are still well liked or not, Crofts probably left at the right time with Tettey now here, who seems to be a growing addition to the team. The important thing is those coming in are better than current first team players and that we keep the right players who will be useful to remain in the squad, Morrison in particular for me will still be useful (What if Holt breaks a leg?) unless we randomly buy another big but mobile target man.


  6. What a complete contradiction York. You can''t champion their goalkeeper as motm then call Wes'' chance a sitter. Both were fantastic saves and the one I assume your talking about he closed down quickly and saved with a toe.

    Give peas a chance I said one of the best players, not the best. And pots is a popularity contest and doesn''t always reflect the players playing well just the perceived fans favourites (cough lee croft).

  7. Is it because he isn''t Messi LDC? This or similar seems to be the commonest complaint about him.

    Someone of Wes skill who made less errors would cost double figure millions and wouldn''t be playing for us.

    He got an assist today with a great ball (when it seemed like know one else on our team new how to cross today). He also got our highest number last season and has been one of the driving forces of our success of the last 3 campaigns.

    I''m happy to admit that he''s not the perfect footballer but nearly all the complaints levelled against him are like yours, no real tangible reason just "I think he gives the ball away too much" or "he doesn''t actually create that much". He actually plays more passes in a game than our other midfielders because he is always looking to get on the ball, has a high pass completion rate and as previously stated the highest assists last year. So what''s any of this criticism really based on? I can only draw the conclusion that its because he''s not someone better, who we therefore couldn''t afford and wouldn''t want to play for us.....

  8. According to wikipedia "The Barclay is named after Captain Evelyn Barclay, a former vice-president of the club, who donated the cost of roofing the original stand."

    I''m assuming this is correct as the citation is the clubs history, but I personally had never thought about it.

  9. I thought Wes deserved his MOTM accolade today. The game feels like two points dropped, but I thought he looked a cut above going forward in the centre of the park today, against a Villa midfield that was pretty non existent going the other way.

    Yes the odd pass went astray but pretty much every player on both sides was guilty of that during this game. His first touch and control is fantastic and I swear if he was playing for one of the top sides he would get superlatives each week, but it was nice to see the Sky pundits talk up his qualities. Both his chances were top saves (he might have done better with the first to lob it though) and he was unlucky not to score.

    I know he''s a chalk and cheese player to a lot of fans, but so much of our good attacking play seems to centre around him.

    The only problem his inclusion has for me is that Holt tends to drift into the channels as the lone striker, which is fine, I don''t know what others thoughts are, but it doesn''t seem like the opposite winger/one of the box to box midfielders then push into the box to offer a threat?

    I think this first 11 looks well balanced and capable of getting results, and I''m looking forward to Stoke and causing them problems, but I do think it just requires more people getting into the box when we push forward. What do others think or would you rather opt for two strikers?


  10. "we were the better side but wasteful crossing and shooting spoiled what should have been a winning performance."

    That is the game summed in one sentence for me by Ricardo. Some better finishing/crossing it would have been a rout. Apart from picking the ball out of the net, was there anything remotely dangerous that Ruddy had to deal with? There goalkeeper had a blinder and they were putting their bodies on the line for the team (Vlaar in particular had a good game).


  11. I actually said it wasn''t totally his fault as there seemed to be a communication mix up between the two and it looks like he thought Bassong was dropping back to cover him. Also the fact that Bassong was aware of the danger and neither reacted can''t make it totally Turners fault even if it was his man. I''m not saying it wasn''t his fault, but its rarely that simple. The rest of his performance was pretty strong but that seems to be irrelevant.

    I wonder how anyone manages to score in the PL as apparently all other teams have defenders who play 90+ mins each week without ever making a mistake......


  12. There were plenty of players making rudimentary mistakes today that could have led to goals. He lost Benteke for the goal arguably, but I don''t think that was totally his fault, more a communication mistake between him and Bassong. Watch the replay again and it looks like Turner thinks Bassong is going with him.

    Thought he had another solid game and it was a great run and finish for the goal. I''m not saying he is a world class defender but he is growing in confidence and looking better next to Bassong for me.


  13. The whole affair massively stinks to me. Lamberts gone now, so while I respect what he did here I don''t care whether he loves NCFC still or not. But its clear though that Lambert has issue with both McNally and Bowkett but will we ever know exactly why?

    The manner in which he left (and the manner of his arrival) was always going to paint him in a bad light to the fans, but you can''t help but think that the war of words between him and Bowkett in particular, and the nature of the legal case surrounding his departure has a very personal spin on it.

    There appears to have been some deep personal clashes and like most who are curios, I would love to know the exact timeline of events and what was said before he departed.

  14. See I think your probably right on the liking Thatcher count, but I''m not sure those people are really represented by Tories any more in the same way that Labour tries to distance itself from the Unions when they are being too left wing!

    Mind you not everything Thatcher did was bad, although I have heard some pretty interesting arguments about Hitler in the same vein, so.....

    As a child of her era, who couldn''t have given a cr@p that she took away my milk, I can be more objective than those of working age at the time.

    The trouble is although politics has become boring, people still like to tag themselves as Labour/Tories and by extension working class/middle class when the divide between the two has become very murky in recent times (Class not party''s, although that could easily be argued as well). People still cling to the party rhetoric without actually being objective about what''s happening. I don''t think the Con/Lib government are crushing the poor and have betrayed the country, by the same token I don''t think everything Labour did was awesome or crushingly bad.

    It''s why I find political debate on this forum (and in general) so tedious, unless your prepared to admit the good and bad done by both parties, your not actually using your own brain. That is party politics, unthinking blind idiot tribalism, leading to a popularity contest to run the world. You think we would have thought of something better by now.

  15. Your totally right Nutty in the fact that its a strange mix, and not a particularly interesting one now, the days of football being a working class man''s sport are long gone.

    To be honest from what I''ve seen your also probably right in your second sentence, although while having no hardcore allegiance myself, I would also suggest there is a quite a lot of left wing working class clichés that also get touted far too much on here for a football forum.

    The reality is that most of us, like politicians themselves nowadays, sit firmly in the centre ground. There just isn''t so many big issues in politics that the main parties disagree on any more, even in the present climate.

  16. It will be a good move for him and Forest, he is a proven quality CB at Championship level and even though he signed a new contract one would presume that, as he seems surplus to requirements here, any permanent deal fee would be well below the going rate.

    I wish him luck if it is permanent. I don''t think he is anywhere near as bad as some on this board like to make out, as well as the fact that Lambert appeared to rate him highly. I wonder if he hadn''t been injured when the squad was decided upon, whether he would have replaced Barnett, his many appearances so far suggest not but we will probably never know.

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