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  1. Posted

    Do you really think he''s not good enough for Swansea? Michu has just been a revelation and kept him out of the team until recently and if you put stock in it there are rumours out there of a bustup with laudrup.

    I know for some reason hating Swansea seems to be a default setting around here but Graham is a proven goalscrorer, he would easily be second choice here and pushing Holt to start.

  2. Posted

    In amongst all the rumours and conjecture this is one of those few tangible facts that points to me as if Graham is either on his way out or is at least considering offers.

    I''d love it if he came here, but I think with them losing out on Remy, desperate to land a striker and him being a fan, Newcastle is looking a good bet.

    Maybe he just got fed up with people asking about him moving but to me it seems a bit of a signal somethings up.

  6. Posted

    I don''t think Morison is a world beating striker but there is a big difference in that and him being good enough for a squad place.

    His constant vilification on this thread and others is pretty pathetic for a player who''s goals last season played a big part in keeping us up.

    He suffers from the major problem that he''s not Grant Holt. I love holt, but I also realize there are few players with all of his attributes and work rate and we are unlikely to end up with four strikers of his calibre in our squad for a few transfer windows yet.

    He didn''t have the best game yesterday, but he wasnt awful, and neither did some of our better players of this run. You also can''t expect the guy to walk in to the team with minimal game time and strike up an instant partnership with Wes, it''s ridiculous.

    I also find it ironic that some are suggesting Kenwe jones as a good replacement, while saying you can''t base Morisons ability on what he was like a year ago.....

    I hope the guy moves on in January for his own sake, we can get someone else to not be Grant Holt, and to be honest if he is less than bothered about playing for NCFC, which I don''t agree with, I could see why. People are idiotic if they think that just because someone gets paid a lot and is a professional that the crowds constant moaning doesn''t affect them.

  10. Posted

    Purple I was being slightly obtuse based on the thread title. Personally I would love to see a new striker in at the right price, if Hughton finds us a Michu I will be overjoyed, I''m also personally a fan of the idea of getting Robbie Keane in for the games available, although he seems to have ruled that out now. A striker in that can improve the squad is something I''m all for. I just don''t think the evidence for the need of this is based on the Stat alluded to in the thread title, nor do I think this Stat is somehow a reflection that Holt is under performing. We of course have an issue if Holt gets injured but we already have a 10 goal backup striker, and I haven''t personally, like many, written off Morisson yet.

    IMO, even though we are chock full of midfielders, I think our major limitation in playing 442 is the Centre midfield berths, yes we could probably do with a better striker to partner Holt but unless Hughton can find an effective 4 man midfield that he is happy will protect the back four but is creative going forward then how do you accommodate that second striker without nullifying our creativity?

    It''s my opinion, but the two go hand in hand, he doesn''t seem to rate Fox so we need a passing midfielder who can defend to accommodate any new strike partner.

  11. Posted

    I can see webbos point and i suspect Nutty is probably right, the figure is probably just based on shots taken (on and off) v goals scored.

    If the same method is used for every team and we are very low in our conversion rate this does show a trend v other sides but it''s not as clear a picture as some are making out and even over the amount of games we have played, some great goalkeeping performances can skew those statistics.

    Is always risky to say we are missing many ''clear cut'' chances, because I doubt the basic available statistics count players getting into great positions but being tackled before they can get away a shot or great crosses that just get missed for instance. I''ve watched every game and I certainly don''t remember us missing many clear cut chances.

    Holt in particular has worked incredibly hard and while guilty of the occasional miss this season has certainly not IMO been guilty of squandering 3/4 of his clear cut chances, I''m sure i''m not the only one whose seen holt put in huge team performances this year but personally not have a clear cut chance in a game.

    People are bleating on about the need for a new striker, but personally unless his all round game is better than Holts are we going to pay top dollar for this striker to sit on the bench? The current system works, people may whinge Holt ends up out wide too much but we have no idea how many more or less goals the team may score if he stays more disciplined in the centre. His cross for Bassong against Swasea was superb, how many other big CF would have been in that position or could deliver that quality a ball if they were?

  12. Posted

    I''d like Danny Graham here as either backup to Holt or strike partner, but January doesn''t seem a smart time to get him unless Swansea are keen to get rid.

    The guys scored 12 goals last season, that''s exactly the sort of guy I want deputising Holt. Not really sure why a 12 goal in a season, proven premier league striker is not good enough to be in our squad?

    Did anyone else see Holt put his arm round Graham and go off chatting at the end of the swans game? I know they are mates but who knows, maybe he was asking whether he fancies playing for us!

  13. Posted

    Looking forward even more now to Kane getting back in the match squad, sounds like he was a cut above which after such an injury shows some real talent. I thought he looked lively against west ham and while his finishing was poor some of the stick he got on here considering his lack of match fitness and experience at the time was unfair IMO. Hughton must see something in him above the options we already had so I''m hoping for a good showing in the second half of the season.

  14. Posted

    It''s a shame but I can''t say it bothers me massively! It''s nice to know one of the relegation spots is pretty much nailed on thus decreasing our chances of being dragged back into the mire!

    Whatever qualities that are needed from a promoted team to survive, it''s pretty clear now reading haven''t got all the elements and it looks too late for them to find them, whatever January dealings they undertake.

  15. Posted

    Ouch dpit, I feel your pain.

    Survival is the priority, above all the club must maintain it''s league status, the bonus is we achieve that by being in any position above 18th! Of course we want to win every game and every place we finish higher is a not a bonus, that''s the wrong sentiment, but a reward/recognition for the hard work of the management team and players.

    How much further can we go? Well who knows, the league seems far more open than previous years, Europe would be amazing but it should not be an expectation. I''m not sure what you mean by how far should we go? While Europe can be a debilitating factor on squads I don''t think there should ever be any thought other than to win as many points as we can.

    If your talking as a club, then I hope and expect next year to see the same controlled evolution of our playing staff as we have seen this year with quality players being brought in without effecting the overall harmony of the squad. This also means hanging on to the likes of Ruddy, Tettey, Bassong etc. When the bigger boys come calling, but so far we seem to be achieving that.

    I like to think that teams such as ourselves and Swansea are proving that a well run club can compete, if it means we will never win the league, well that''s sad, but I would rather that than be some billionaires plaything.

  20. Posted

    Tom, I''m all for stadium expansion but your brand of optimism makes zero sense. As others have said, where in the current economic climate, where councils are being cut to the bone, would this loan come from?

    Just who is eager to drop millions on the real estate at Carrow Road? Were in economic decline. Who can''t find space in Norwich?

    A new stadium would cost millions, far, far more than expansion and is not necessary.

  21. Posted

    Well if you''re right, then Wigan isn''t an isolated event based on a series of connected issues and its the first of many games to be offered at the rate of 19 pounds, I''m sure a lot of people will be very happy about that.

    The demand has of course dropped off, its related to the ticket price increase from last year and the year before, its in search of that maximum price per ticket in your ''cross price price elasticity'' reasoning. It shows that the price, especially for less attractive games, is reaching its acceptable ceiling based on demand. It doesn''t necessarily indicate the overall demand has dropped, just that the marketing team have reached their pricing ceiling. It backs up your own argument.The problem is that unlike when cross price price elasticity is usually used in business, we have a maximum product limit of how many we can sell as we don''t have any more seats even if the demand is there for the product at that price.

    As I say I would be interested to see how much of the 11 million catering is related to matchday''s. As it is relevant, even if its obviously not as big as the ticket money.

    Once again I agree and don''t believe the stand can be paid for from income generated by it in the event of relegation, that''s the risk, and its a big one if the period in question is 20 years. But if the club could never hope to cover the payments in the premiership I am bemused why a smart set of Directors used to believe that expansion was essential less than 2 years ago.

    It also doesn''t answer my concern that if this is the plan, when is a better time to implement it? we will always face the same risks at probably increased costs. The answer being then we never upgrade the stand, or we are less ambitious in its size and expense.

  23. Posted

    Why on earth would we reduce 12 games to the Wigan price? The Wigan price is a perfect storm moment, an unfashionable club, with poor away support, at home on the busiest shopping day of the year, oh just before xmas in a poor economy. The club have had to reduce ticket prices below even grade c in response.

    Why didn''t it happen last year? well we didn''t have a home game in the week run up to xmas, we had 2 away games. Is there less demand, well how much have tickets gone up on last year? At the moment we have a grade system for games which is laughable, if we had more seats those grades would be used appropriately. Be reasonable, even with increased capacity the vast majority of casual tickets sold would never come close to being 19 pounds.

    The 91% figure makes things even less clear to their thinking then, I am assuming we are talking an average attendance over the season of that figure at current rates? That''s an average attendance of 31,850. Assuming cat A+ games would get much closer to sell outs than that, they also cost much more per ticket making it hard to pin down why that 91% figure is relevant? Surely the more important thing is to average high to sell out attendance in Cat A/A+ games? Its got to be quantified somehow i suppose, but a required average attendance when there are so many variables per game is a confusing.

    The catering and other match day revenue is not insignificant, maybe Purple can explain how the Catering and Commercial income, which in the latest figures as near as damn it equals ticket income, is broken down?

    I''m not debating if we get relegated the money will have to come from elsewhere, in the premiership i''m not so sure, as if we couldn''t as a minimum break even in any year when the stand was complete, under any circumstances, I would be incredibly surprised. Out of interest if we get relegated can we withdraw our Academy status?

  24. Posted

    Ricardo, I totally agree it is far from being a no brainer as some suggest, but, with the potential of such a long period to repay back (I was quite surprised the term being suggested at the AGM was 20 years as I thought such a length would be unlikely to be offered), it also means it could potentially not be as crippling a yearly effect as previous debts were, if in the worse case scenario, the seats are generating nothing towards the loan.

    My overwhelming concern is that people seem to think, oh give it a couple of years of premiership football it will be an easier decision, it wont, and as the years go on the costs as you suggest will only go up. I don''t think that therefore means we should get the builders in next week and start, but the waters are very muddy. Unless someone will give us the money, or a large portion of it, there will never be a good time to do this.

  25. Posted

    Paul its too late for that, as long as the game is being shown somewhere in the world it will be streamed.

    Streaming is now fairly publicly known and accepted, its the TV companies that hate it! The only way to stop it is to not sell the rights to those games and while the clubs will benefit from ticket sales in that instance, as you suggested because no one can otherwise view the game, the TV pot would decrease as those game rights weren''t sold. So clubs would overall be worse off.

    The Tv rights owner needs to find a business model to work with streaming otherwise there is no way forward that doesn''t lose them, and clubs, money.
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