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  1. 3 hours ago, Virtual reality said:

    Seems a section of the fan base have turned into idiots. We’ve a real chance of getting into the play offs 

    Not only that, but an excellent chance of screwing up our fierce rivals renaissance and keeping the upper hand over them. Seems this doesn't matter to the morons. 

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  2. 5 hours ago, percy varco said:

    Wouldn’t expect him to say anything else. 
     

    Dave’s got a lot of convincing to do

    Well being on about the best run of form in the division doesn't seem to be enough. Seems he has to be a cross between Mother Teresa and Alex Ferguson to pacify the arrogant clowns in our fanbase. He is right, they are wrong. And they really can't take it. 

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  3. 5 hours ago, shefcanary said:

    **** off! We were doing okay when attacking, Wagner hasn't a clue and creates an air of we've done enpugh and just hold on, we fall apart, he deserves every boo he gets.

    Is this a parody?! We're one of the top form teams in the league after a terrible run of injuries and just beaten play off rivals convincingly. Any nuetral reading this would conclude you've gone nuts. 


  4. 19 hours ago, Google Bot said:

    An £8m asset, why would we want that in our starting 11?  Sell him of course, it's the most progressive course of action.

    The point is obvious. We got Sainz on a free and he's twice the player we can get £8m for. Yes Tzolis was a gamble which didn't pay off and you have to mark that as a negative against the club. Sainz is a big positive though. 


  5. 35 minutes ago, Conrad said:

    Assuming that you are correct, then why have him on the bench if there is no intention of playing him?

    Because being part of the group and maybe coming on if we're two goals up is part of his education/integration. Look, i actually think the energy he would've brought to the pitch would've outweighed his naivety, so i think Wagner made a mistake (although his subs vs Cov were superb, so.....). I was just pointing out that things are not as simple as the post i was replying to suggested. 


  6. 8 hours ago, S_81 said:

    The only reasoning to not put Sydney on for Josh is that Wagner wanted to tighten it up and hold the lead. But we were over 20mins out and it backfired as it invited QPR on. If you can’t see that then you need help. 

    I think the subs were a mistake but this isn't true. We have no idea of Hoijdonk's sharpness or otherwise behind the scenes, nor his integration in terms of tactics/positioning etc. People forget that even Buendia took months to settle in and establish himself and we're currently seeing similar with Sainz.


  7. 4 hours ago, hogesar said:

    No, its not an example of disconnect although I appreciate after some good results some fans have a desire to ensure one remains.

    The above is an example of the club ensuring the safety and match enjoyment of other fans. 

    Come on, have some heart. Just think how much it has cheered eeyore up having something negative to post. 

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  8. 9 hours ago, canarybubbles said:

    Let's start by not using a throw-in to launch the ball into our own penalty area. Sometimes the sheer creativity that our defenders show in finding new ways to screw up is really impressive.

    All our best players are attacking players except Gunn. Our defence is average at best. Some have posited that our uber defensive "hit em on the counter" tactics  coincided with Knapper's analytic approach. If so (whatever City fans opinions) it was brilliant and it's worked. Confidence is surging now and i still think we can go up a level. 


  9. Earlier in the season people were saying we were basically a one man team (Sara), yet through this amazing run of excellent form he probably isn't in our top 5 form players. Yet still the other players are "useless", Webber's recruitment was rubbish, Wagner doesn't know what he's doing yada yada. It beggars belief. Are these people going to be actively p!ssed off if we make the play offs?

    As for Sara at no.10, I've said before when he plays deeper he spends most of the game facing forwards, at 10 he is often showing for the ball with his back to goal which isn't really his game. 

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  10. Gunn was initially "why waste £5m on a keeper rejected by the Premier league", now rated about the best keeper in the division. Nunez starting to really look the part. Even Tzolis doing very well in Germany. The main issue was that we tried to sign "oven ready" players for much less than most Prem clubs pay and they weren't. Lots of exciting talents coming good though. 

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  11. 2 hours ago, Worthy Nigelton said:

    I saw the sign, and it opened up my eyes, I saw the sign. Life is demanding without understanding.

    All that I want is another baby as well.

    I saw the Sainz and he opened up my eyes yes I saw Borja Sainz. He is outstanding, never just grandstanding....


  12. 2 hours ago, Worthy Nigelton said:

    I saw the sign, and it opened up my eyes, I saw the sign. Life is demanding without understanding.

    All that I want is another baby as well.

    I saw the Sainz and he opened up my eyes yes I saw Borja Sainz. He is outstanding, never just grandstanding....


  13. 1 hour ago, Corbs1 said:

    I somehow missed that they hadn’t played each other with a crowd present for 12 years, and 27 years without a win at Hawthorns; clearly this gent was going to stomach that and liberties in the home areas 

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    Isn't that an orc from Lord of the rings?

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  14. 8 minutes ago, shefcanary said:

    You obviously weren't on the receiving end then. Piers Morgan was all over it during that campaign, accused me of it on a couple of occasions on X!

    Reductivism at its finest! 😉 

    So do you think comparing people to pigs is the equivalent of a nuetral collective noun used to define an authoritarian political movement?


  15. 1 hour ago, canarybubbles said:

    I hope I have already made clear that I have no truck whatsoever with things like cancelling and no-platforming. I believe, if you wish to put it in these terms, in the marketplace of ideas. I'm well aware that an old-fashioned Marxist would call me a bourgeois liberal. I probably am.

    But there are almost no old-fashioned Marxists anymore. There is the Petersen line that this is because Marxism failed politically and economically and so it moved into the cultural realm in the 1960s and 70s and morphed into post-modernism, but this radically underestimates the many conflicts between the two sets of theories. If post-modernists rejected Marxism as a grand narrative, then the Marxists who were left rejected what they saw as the bourgeois idealism of postmodernism. There are probably intellectual and historical links but the tensions are at least as great as the similarities. It also underestimates how much of the thinking in the 60s and 70s came from the grassroots, not from the intelligentsia.

    A lot of what is seen as dangerous in 'woke' is IMO merely the customary certainty of young people that they have all the answers.

    I appreciate that you at least listen to the other side of the argument. As ever, when discussing things like post modernism you end up needing to write an essay just to define terms and concepts. In terms of the culture war i think the most important distinction to make is between the original thinkers and what was defined in Cynical Theories as "reified postmodernism"- also referred to as applied postmodernism or weaponised postmodernism, which is essentially the academic Left using the powerful insights of that branch of thought to manipulate culture (explicitly written about by the Frankfurt school, the Intersectionalists, Judith Butler, Critical Theorists etc).IMO Peterson's interviews went viral because he articulated something very obviously sinister that people experienced in their everyday lives, yet couldn't quite pin down. But here we are: to come out as a racist or fascist in Britain is basically the same as coming out as a murderer or paedophile, whereas to come out as a Marxist/Communist is perfectly socially acceptable and even applauded in many circles, yet mainstream orthodoxy has everyone convinced that only the former pose a threat. Again, it just goes to show that many of those thinkers were right about how easy it is to socially manipulate people. 

    On your last paragraph, Communism has always had a focus on "getting em young" from Mao setting up Communist youth groups to snitch on family members (essentially murdering them), to Pol Pots child soldiers who came to my girlfriend's village and smashed babies heads against trees in front of their parents before they too were dispatched. All this due to concepts such as "unearned privilege" and "systemic bourgeois oppression"....Sound familiar? Now look at the behaviour of the Woke: dehumanization as "gammons", putting anyone with even mild or factually accurate disagreements in the worst possible human category (all the "ists" and "phobes"), dismissing people as irrelevant due to immutable characteristics ("You're just a straight white male"). It doesn't take much imagination to figure out what cultural cancellation presages.

     


  16. 48 minutes ago, Herman said:

    The far-right are as big a terror threat to this country as the extreme Islamists, which has been stated by the actual security forces, but no, it's a made up bogeyman, the "woke" which is a serious concern for some. Jesus wept (after he stopped laughing.)

    Why do you think that Britain is statistically the 5th most Liberal, open and tolerant country in the world?


  17. 20 minutes ago, canarybubbles said:

    When I was young, it was people on 'the Left' who were paranoid. We even had a joke, 'just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you'. Somehow it has become 'the Right' who now mistrust governments and authorities and the legal system and the police, who complain about 'the Blob', and, as we saw after the last election in the US, would resort to insurrection if they can't win power through a democratic vote.

    I guess it's because 'the counter-culture' succeeded in many ways (IMO it failed in many others, especially in terms of its theoretical anti-consumerism, but that's a different argument). We now live in a different cultural environment, and most people seem to like it. They show no desire to go back to a world of back-street abortions, gays being locked up in prison, by-elections where one of the candidates had a campaign slogan saying 'want a n***** for a neighbour, vote Labour', where women were patronised and governments were almost exclusively male, where mild sexual harassment was seen as a normal fact of life and just a bit of harmless fun (as it seems to be regarded in our current parliament), and so on.

    A history of six million people dying in concentration camps and a current rise in far-right politics and what we're worried about is 'woke'. Yeah, right.

     

    Many of those reforms were enacted under Tory governments, which underlines the fact that Liberalism isn't a Left/Right issue. The Woke Left are expressly anti Liberal a, because it's worked imperfectly but well in conjunction with a Capitalist system and b, because realistic Liberalism logically leads to Conservatism in that if you're not a Utopian there has to be a point where society is Liberal enough and further attempts to create complete equality require coercion at the very least (which is de facto illiberal).

    So your point about people being pretty happy in a Liberal culture is correct There is no great drive to turn back the clock, there are no far right political partie, journalists, academics, public thinkers or business tycoons in the UK whereas there are so many openly Marxist or frame culture in Marxist concepts (oppressor/oppressed, institutional oppression, blank slate Utopianism etc) that people are increasingly fearful of offering any alternative viewpoint unless they have their lives destroyed and/or are labelled "far right". Freedom of speech and expression are now regarded as right wing talking points. 

    Politics is downstream of culture, right? What percentage of culture is far right?

     


  18. 2 hours ago, mrD66M said:

    Where did you live, and what did you learn that broadened or narrowed your perspective? Where were your assumptions challenged, and confirmed? What do you carry with you to this day? Pros and cons of each country? Where did you integrate better, and why?

    If you went and lived abroad, were you expected to integrate into the culture, speak the language etc?  If not, then how can you demand that people who move to the UK do that - unless for you it's merely about following the laws of the country?

    If you lived in 10 countries yet talked the bare minimum with locals, didn't participant in the local customs/culture, etc, what did you learn? It is possible to live in different places and still be very insular... it takes a degree of openness and courage, a willingness to contribute (more than in just material terms ie work, taxes, etc), to integrate successfully. 

    Opinions aren't inherently wrong - until we start lumping ours on other people and refuse to allow our opinions to be challenged, refuse to think we are above logical flaws / rationalisation / getting emotionally tangled up. 

    Since this debate is on immigration... 

    No country can support a massive and sustained increase in population - logically correct 

    Where this increase is from migration, controlling migration by lawful and humane means is not only desirable but essential - logically correct 

    Asylum seeking is illegal - logically incorrect

    Rwanda is humane - logically incorrect 

     

     

    At risk of sounding boastful I've done all the things you list. I've probably travelled and read as much as anyone on these boards. Thing is, when you do this you don't necessarily come to the conclusions everyone expects. As Pinker wrote in the "Blank Slate", it's perfectly possible to be a kind, open hearted Liberal whilst being wary of the flaws and dangers of evolved human nature (in the modern world often caused by evolutionary mismatch). People really are wary of the "other" (particularly if they look different) for the same reason people are wary of snakes and spiders. This is a feature rather than a bug of humanity and rather than constantly self flagellating that racism still exists in Britain, perhaps we should reflect on how and why we have way less of it than the rest of the world (anyone who doesn't understand this hasn't travelled, and we are statistically the 5th most Liberal and tolerant country in the world ). Amidst all the furore over Rwanda, nobody mentions that two ethnic groups who look almost identical to us decided to slaughter each other only a couple of decades ago. 

     

    The Woke/Identity politics Left are simply wrong on virtually every level and represent a far bigger threat to a genuinely inclusive Liberal democracy than a far right who were utterly delegitimised by the second world war. 

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