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  1. Posted

    17 minutes ago, Creedence Clearwater Couto said:

    Selling Omo for £20 million would be daylight robbery.

    Someone paying that is gambling on potential. We need players ready to perform now, this sale is a no brainer. I very much doubt anyone is offering north of £7 million, though. It would be a heavily structured deal. 

    I agree with this, I remain unconvinced by Omo if I’m honest but do believe there is the potential for him to be a really great player. However not sure he is what we need now. Next season I’d like to see us playing strong, confident, assured centre backs who have a good understanding of the game and can provide some desperately needed strength and leadership.

    Omo may one day develop into that type of player but he is miles off it at the moment so I’d take any offer above £10m

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    I think he has been one of the few bright spots this season. Must admit one of my concerns with Wagner is his apparent reluctance to play Gibbs.

    I'm hoping that Wagner is just protecting him as a young player who wont benefit from playing in a weak team and with a relatively critical crowd. Next season I'd like to see him being one of the players we build the team around...mainly by giving him an experienced and tough CDM (who would've thought having one of those would be a good idea!) 'minder' to free him up.

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  3. Posted

    I’m not sure if I’m really that bothered about Dowell leaving, in the same way he doesn’t seem that bothered on whether he wants to actually play football in a game (he has some great skill but doesn’t appear that keen to use it).

    it does however annoy me that he is going on a free transfer. I know it’s absurd to expect loyalty from a player these days but it does feel like half the time with us we’ve been paying for him to sit out injured.

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  4. Posted

    15 minutes ago, Robert N. LiM said:

    For me, Krul was the heart and soul of the Farke era, just as Bryan Gunn was in our great team of the late 80s/early 90s. It's about so much more than being a shot-stopper. Great Norwich men both.

    I think that is very true.

    Sadly for many reasons we now need to move on to a new era which must include replacing players like Krul (and I'd argue many of the rest of the old guard who I sense have just had enough..Hanley, Mclean, Pukki and even Aarons).

    Time for "new heroes" as an idiot once said (although he was right on that occasion!)

     

  6. Posted

    3 minutes ago, jaberry2 said:

    He states the obvious in my eyes, but I assume Webber will speak more knowing our final position at the end of the season, which is probably a bit late. Things have gone downhill for a long time now and essentially Norwich fans just want to know how this is going to be addressed. He needs to take some accountability and ownership for that and the transfer failures so we can rebuild and move on.

    Let's be honest ...he will just dish out a version of the same line:

    "I'm happy to take the flack, that's what I'm paid for and it doesn't bother me. Yes, this season has been  disappointing but the club infrastructure is much improved and we remain sustainable. Obviously our ambition remains to be a premier league club but we have to be realistic about the money we have to spend compared to other clubs, especially with the parachute payments ending. At the end of the day I'm paid by the owners and it will be their decision if I stay or go and I'm not bothered either way".

    He's hardly  going to be honest and say "I'm really sorry, I've messed this up completely. This has been a disastrous season and I've p'd more money up the wall than McNally could ever have dreamed of!"

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    1 minute ago, Yellow Wal said:

    The way things are going we will be lucky to get 2.5 million.

    For once we need an agent to actually do something to earn their money. He was apparently well thought of before we got him and were other clubs interested. Need his agent to go back to them peddling the injuries, couldn’t settle, rubbish manager excuses and offering a great opportunity to buy him back much cheaper than what we paid.

    im not sure he is that bad but just don’t think it’s going to happen for him here.

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    38 minutes ago, Segura said:

    I get the feelings here - Grizzly, Gibbo and Macca have been cornerstones of a team that has underwhelmed for two seasons. As such people naturally wonder what alternative options might produce.

    I'm just a dumb old buh with little football knowledge, but I think the key here is that the aforementioned players have played consistently at a Prem/Champs level for some time.

    They may well have declined of late but there is a reason why they play regularly and for me the last two games have brought this to light.

    Sometimes it really is a case of be careful what you wish for.

    Yep, I am equally as dumb... in fact I would go even further and say I actually rate Gibson! Certainly losing both him and Hanley at the same time has had a big impact on the team and in particular has highlighted that Omo probably isnt as good as people seem to think. But at least part of that will be due to his age and experience, he may end up being better than both Hanley and Gibson but he certainly isnt at the moment.

    That's part of the issue I have with people saying we should have made signing to improve on the pair - who would you realistically recommend that are better and we could actually afford/attract to the club?

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  13. Posted

    8 hours ago, Jim Smith said:

    Sargent is awful. Can’t control the ball half of the time. 

    He is a really odd player, I agree sometimes he looks like he has never played the game and then at other moments he seems to accidentally do something brilliant.

    I thought he was generally ‘ok’ last night but if you take the Middlesbrough game as the best example he missed some easy early chances which could’ve changed the whole game but the goal he did score was very decent.

    despite that, I dread the thought of us going into next season with either him or Idah as our main striker!

     

  14. Posted · Edited by rock bus

    I agree it should be over and in al honesty I wish it was! It’s been an absolutely rubbish season and to be quite frank the team is utter pants.

    But it’s funny what different perspectives does… I’ve quite a few mates who are coventry fans. They’re on same points as us and drew last night with a last minute equaliser by their goalie I think. They’re all delirious with excitement and talking about having  to cancel holidays at the end of May!!

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    It’s a tough call and I’m a self confessed Farke fan boy.

    I’d like to see him as director of football rather than back as manager.

     But I tell you one thing, I’m pretty sure he’d have this team in the play offs this season. The squad may not be great but when you look at current top 6 I’ve no doubts Farke would’ve been able to inspire the players to at least be good enough for that.

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  18. Posted

    38 minutes ago, Parma Ham's gone mouldy said:

    Close enough.

    Though of course we are in any case sportingly inferior to Middlesbrough by some distance - certainly to the neutral. 

    To be quite as weak as we are now - sportingly, mentally, tactically - is quite an ‘achievement’ from the peak of promotion in ‘21 with Buendia-Skipp, plus £60m laid out. 

    Forget about Boro, Brentford, Brighton or Blackburn comparisons, positive or negative outlooks, play-off chances or no play off chances, style of play to no style of play, winning mentality to a weaker fragile one, to have as poor a set of players as we have now - from such a high point and so much money gained, with many of our contextually major investments far distant from use or capital return- is  horrible mid-management. 

    The right question is not ‘why aren’t we someone else?’ ..

    …The right questions to ask, that every employee of Norwich City should - and must - be asking themselves, is ‘why aren’t we what we were in ‘21?…how have we been so active, received so much, spent so much, traded so much, to get so much worse in every sense than what we ourselves had already built?

    Comparing ourselves to ourselves is not only valid, it is necessary, essential and demands an empirical self-reflective answer in order for the club to progress from here. 

    Parma 

    Boy that’s a very accurate but very depressing point!

     Webber has a lot to answer for and really should have the humility to hold his hands up and say he has got it badly wrong. He won’t of course because of his arrogance.

    (he should also give McNally a call and say sorry for his stupid comment about wasting money now he knows how easy it is to do!)

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  19. Posted · Edited by rock bus

    46 minutes ago, canarybubbles said:

     

    My impression is that Webber is a bit star-struck when it comes to loanees. Three of last years' flops came from Chelsea, Liverpool and Man U, while the latest flop comes from Arsenal. He was also willing to consider Lampard for the managerial post, which strengthens the argument that he is a bit of a glory-hunter.

    Not sure it’s being star struck but I think his ego just means that he likes being at the table with the big boys.

     It keeps up his self flattery of the lad from the small town done well. I expect he also thinks it gives him the chance to impress ready for future interviews.

     Sadly it seems they just take the p out of the idiot, naïve guy who will take rubbish of their wage bill for a season

  21. Posted

    58 minutes ago, alex_ncfc said:

    This is why Norwich City are so small time with their fans attitudes like this

    "I wouldn't want him anywhere near our club, glad we didn't get him"

    What, a proven winner? Yeah so glad we didn't get him on the staff 🙄

    Small time or not I’m glad  I support a club that wouldn’t want Terry at it .

    Winning is great but I’d always rather have a club and team that I’m proud to support. 
    but then again  I’d also remain ‘small time’ by not wanting just anyone to buy the club. Some things  (such as human decency) are in my opinion more important than money or winning.

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  25. Posted

    9 hours ago, Jim Smith said:

    There is a reason he’s not at Chelsea and there is a reason he’s still with us despite his previously oft stated desire to move to bigger and better things. He’s got no offers. In fact there are two reasons. He’s got no offers and he’s raking in a small fortune every year despite failing most of the time, only giving 90% to the job and is only answerable to his wife who it appears earns a similar amount whilst overseeing a mass exodus of loyal staff from the club and a general souring of the atmosphere. 
     

    I’m far from convinced he is a good sporting director. Maybe his initial ideas were novel at the time and yes they worked for a bit (although a lot was common sense) but a good sporting director does not repeatedly fail to address glaring holes in the squad that every single fan can see or sign multiple (sh*t) players in positions we don’t need leaving the squad imbalanced. A good sporting director does not manufacture a sale of your best player following promotion, they find a way to keep them. it would not surprise me at all if he jumps ship soon before it becomes clear what a mess he’s got us into.

    Pretty much every youth player who has come through in his time was down to Broughton. 

     

    In the business world (and sadly Norwich City FC are in that world, even if as a club we like to be in the sporting world) Webber is a classic Disrupter.

    These are often brought in to struggling businesses to turn them around. It can often be a high risk strategy which leads to the company winding up or great success. Thankfully for us it was mainly the latter with Webber.

    These disrupters are reliant on having a clear plan that they wholeheartedly back and an air of arrogance as they must convince all that theirs is the way the company must move. This often results in existing staff and management getting hacked off and leaving or being dismissed. There can be no dissenting voices, the disrupters aim is to create a form of chaos leading to significant change. This dynamic and determined approach makes the business capable of doing things that previously would not be considered viable options or within their reach.

    Unfortunately, this is only ever a short term solution. Longer term the Disrupter's positive influence will be lost. They don't have the personality or well rounded management style to implement a longer term plan. Success in the long run is reliant on a more constructive, cooperative approach built on managing and developing the wider management team. 

    To be fair to Webber, this is something that he himself probably realises - hence his original plan to move on to other things after a few years. Sadly he seems to have missed the boat on this and now seems 'prepared' to stick with us for the time being - hence his 90% comment.

    Ironically, it was once mooted that the plan was for Webber to go and Farke to 'move up' to the Director role. I quite like the idea of that as Farke showed far more emotional intelligence and desire to develop others than Webber has ever done. It would also have fitted well with Webber's self developed image as a 'maverick' as we would be doing something quite unusual for an English club. Sadly I think that chance has gone (unless we can shift Webber and tempt Farke back with the new role!).

    However, it seems clear to me that Webber does need to move on both for the sake of the club and his own reputation (he will never exceed the success he had in transforming the club in the first few years). 

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