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  1. Posted

    5 hours ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

    Signing Pukki for free and of course signing Buendia too.

    This doesn't count as a legacy because neither are still here and the former was entirely wasted by the inexplicable change in system in 2021.

    We can all agree that there was a period of exceptional football with some incredible memories, but that's history not a legacy. A legacy is what's left afterwards, not the high points from his tenure but what endures after he's gone.

    So, let's be honest about where we really are right now: the club is in a shambolic state from top to bottom. There's no leadership, no proper structure and no accountability. All the staff from behind the scenes who made the success happen have departed. The playing squad is a chimera: unable to function as a cohesive unit and lacking the skill to hurt other teams yet paid comparatively huge wages.

    It would be great to be able to say that now comes a fresh start but the truth is we're on a downward spiral and no one can predict how far we still have to fall. The level of debt is unparalleled in this club's history while the balance between current wages and future income is alarming. Without parachute payments next year, our turnover is set to drop to its lowest level in more than a decade.

    We don't know what will happen with the club's ownership but, without serious investment, the quality of the squad can only decline further. 

    Webber’s hypocrisy will be his biggest legacy. He accused his predecessors of pissing the money up the wall but has gone on to spectacularly dwarf that previous profligacy. 

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  3. Posted

    16 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said:

    What we don't need is more pretty football that falls short in the Premier League because we can't afford the players.

    This attitude is exactly why we're in free fall now. We had a good thing. Winning the Championship in style two out of three seasons was a huge success in comparison to the plight of most clubs of our stature.

    I'd say I 100% disagree with you. What we need is to recreate the excellent football we played under Farke by building a skillful squad of the kind of quirky players who we can afford, then drilling them on how to play an effective style of attacking football.

    What we don't need is journeymen picking up £40k per week.

    Just because a vocal minority clamoured for "giving it a go" AKA "bankrupting the club" doesn't mean it was the right thing to do. 

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  4. Posted

    I think there's a spectrum of opinion ranging from the less cerebral just demanding "Wagner out" or "Delia out" to the nihilists saying "we're heading for League One no matter what we do now". I think everyone recognises that *something* needs to change but there's less agreement on what that change should be.

    Most people are also calling for things to happen immediately but I think we've caused most of the problems (including on the pitch) by rushing in rather than looking at the bigger picture. A few more weeks of floundering might afford us the time to get the next steps right.

    The main point I'm making (which seems missing from the hymn sheet) is that we really need to get Stuart Webber out before changing the coach and playing style, otherwise his influence could poison the chalice for the next regime as well. 

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  7. Posted

    I can't emphasise enough that there is absolutely zero point in making any managerial change while Webber's grubby little hands are still pulling any strings at the club. A director of football has more than a little say in the 'direction of football' so pinning the blame on the head coach is missing the point. I'm not saying I want Wagner to stay, just that the absolute priority must be getting Webber out of the club before he can do any more damage.

    It's plain for all to see that the idea of a transition period with a handover is just going to ensure the malaise is perpetuated; which is obviously the opposite of what we need. The club needs a fresh start with a clean break from the negativity. That means getting Webber and Wagner out ASAP as well as all of the first team coaching staff. The roles should be filled in the interim on a week by week basis until the new sporting director is in place and able to appoint a new coaching team.

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    1 hour ago, nutty nigel said:

    Webber's gone. He achieved two championships with the old model but the model ultimately failed. McNally delivered two promotions but the model ultimately failed. Delia and Michael delivered five promotions but the model ultimately failed. Or perhaps was successful but would always ultimately fail.

    Most of the clubs losing £475k per week will ultimately fail. The price of football is ultimately not sustainable.

    I don't regard two promotions followed by two relegations as 'failure'. To be perfectly honest, in my 30 years of supporting Norwich City, only the very first season I followed the club in 1992/93 and the European campaign that autumn could be considered more exciting than Farke's titles; I was 10 then.

    What I do regard as failure is the paradigm shift in the summer of 2021 culminating in sacking Farke just weeks after giving him a four year contract; and everything that's followed. 

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    I'd be ok if Kenny was competing for his place as a genuine number 8. In the role he's currently playing he is the central cog in a broken midfield. His strength (and instinct) is to operate box-to-box, driving through the midfield and linking play into the attacking players. My reasonably valid complaint is that in doing so, he abandons the most important duty of anyone in his role. Ultimately it's beyond ridicule for the deepest midfield to charge forwards (either with the ball or in the press) when the fullbacks are already ahead of the ball. 

    I'll accept that the other midfielders are also culpable with the following caveat: Sara and Rowe are our only attacking weapons so should be afforded a little less defensive responsibility in order to get them into the positions from which to hurt the opposition.

    Hernandez, as far as I am concerned, should be nowhere near a Championship first team. 

    If you believe Kenny is an innocent party in this shambles, given an impossible job by the ineptitude of the other players around him and an awful coach, perhaps you might offer some thoughts on how we might fix the problems. 

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    28 minutes ago, Shining White said:

    Are you seriously suggesting that a league cup win,3 x top 5 finishes in the top division and European football is a lesser measure of “success” than yo-yoing? Really??

    Are you seriously suggesting that any if those events occurred within the last couple of decades?

    Let's not turn into Ipswich supporters and cling to past glory... 

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    6 minutes ago, shefcanary said:

    But Hoggy, as others have said, those managers all got the sack, as will Wagner. Can't you see the common thread here. Either blame Webber for not giving those managers a better quality midfielder, or accept we are now playing at Kenny's level.

    I have argued with you before over this. The fact we rely on Kenny is why we have struggled to perform at a higher level.

    Like people defending Webber, Wagner et al, you can't defend the indefensible. If you are happy with Kenny, then by all means accept we are more likely to yo-yo between Chumps and League 1, than between the EPL and the Chumps. I won't.

    A thousand times this. If you accept the obvious wisdom that the squad is now vastly inferior to that which achieved our record points haul in 2020-21 then you have to accept that the remaining players are the embodiment of that decline. Kenny has never been an adequate replacement for Skipp and the repeated attempts to shoehorn him in there have coincided with the club's meteoric decline.

    I'm not sure exactly what level of involvement our much maligned sporting director has in shaping the match day team, but he certainly holds responsibility for building the squad and has categorically failed to fill what many of us consider to be the biggest void. 

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    3 minutes ago, hogesar said:

    But if Kenny doesn't take the responsibility and drive forwards from deep I'm not sure we'd have had a single attack today.

    I don't want to derail this thread with more Kenny bashing, but I have to respond to this. 

    When Kenny drives forward from deep when we already have six players ahead of the ball, abandoning his essential structural pivot and leaving us with just two centre backs who are far too far apart, that completely describes his fundamental unsuitability to the role he's in. Add in that he frequently picks a high risk, low percentage pass with the resulting turnovers leaving us exposed with only (the defensively weak) Sara as the possible other covering midfielder. Surely you can see the problem?

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  18. Posted

    This is exactly why I think Kenny is central to the problem. "We need do more" as if running about is going to fix the underlying structural problems. "We need to double down on the hard work" so absolutely misses the point: we don't need to carry on doing the same thing but try harder, we need to do something different.

    We're losing because we are putting the wrong players in the wrong positions at the wrong times. This interview highlights the absolute mess we're in because there isn't the slightest bit of awareness of how wrong our underlying approach is. We can't keep sticking 6 players ahead of the ball and expecting not to concede. 

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  19. Posted

    Most people remember Lambert for his dynamic, attacking football but he initially got us back to basics and made us hard to beat by doing the hard graft off the ball. We need to stop the rot by stemming the flow of goals we're conceding before we even start to think about how to start creating and scoring goals. 

    The irony is that, if we set up more defensively, we'd have far more space to work with in front of us and have greater opportunities to get in behind teams. Playing so high means teams can stay deep and compact before hitting us on the break.

    Any manager should be able to see and address the problems we're facing. I strongly suspect, however, that nothing can change until we get rid of our toxic sporting director. 

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  20. Posted

    2 minutes ago, hogesar said:

    Safe passes from deep in midfield doesn't achieve much more than a 6.2 - 6.4 rating in Sofascores algorithms.

    Well I'm fairly sure they overvalue the attacking parts of the game and don't put any emphasis on the glaring positional errors both McLean and Sara continue to make every week. Sara is undoubtedly our best attacking player, but he's absolutely pants when we don't have possession hence many of us being aghast at him being played so deep. Kenny clearly doesn't have the skills for the job he's being asked to do. The statistics don't reflect the reality. 

  21. Posted

    9 minutes ago, hogesar said:

    Just dropping in our statistical best-performers this season. Kellen's just about played enough minutes to meet the criteria for being rated.

    Thought it was worth it considering the stick being dished out elsewhere...

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    I don't believe they record statistics for poor positioning, failing to track a runner and aimlessly running around with a bit of pointing. Stats tend to only measure tangible actions when in possession. Making a high number of safe passes from a deep position will give a midfielder reasonable numbers in the things they measure while ignoring the fundamental flaws which lead to conceding more goals than any other team in the league. 

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  22. Posted

    5 minutes ago, Indy said:

    What I saw today is that we overload our wings we have two wingers and the wingbacks push up with them that’s four played wide leaving massive space down the flanks and we get picked off into that space! But even worse we play with one striker who can’t header a ball! What’s the point of having width of you don’t plan to use it?

    Overlapping fullbacks is a widely accepted system in the modern game, but its success is largely contingent on playing the wide midfielders narrower and deeper as done so successfully by Farke, at Championship level at least. Johnny Rowe puts in a reasonable shift of getting up and down the wing in both attack and defence, but Hernandez plays like he's a wide attacker in a 4-3-3 which is totally flawed.

    As far as I'm concerned McLean is an 8, Sara and Nunez are 10s (only one of them should ever be on the pitch at a time) and we have had a massive number 6 shaped hole in the team since Skipp returned to Spurs. Hernandez shouldn't be anywhere near our starting 11.

  23. Posted

    6 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

    The only two things I'd disagree with are that McLean is central to the problem (he's being asked to do too much, and the main things are not his natural game) and that changing the manager won't fix it (surely a new coach would set the team up to not be so open as soon as we lose the ball).

    I don't really have a problem with McLean competing for a place at number 8, but the role he's being asked to perform and his absolute inability to perform the basics when out of possession make him the problem right now. A new manager won't have an actual CDM to call on so it's hard to see anything changing until we can get to a transfer window and plug the gaping holes in the squad. 

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  24. Posted

    3 minutes ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said:

    Whilst conning this club out of 2 new contracts in the process. He must have one good agent

    It's only really Webber (and a few fans) that he's conned. Webber has assembled this squad and continues to believe in it despite growing evidence that it simply doesn't compete at this level. McLean epitomises the low skill/high endeavour emphasis of our squad's 'development' and represents exactly where we've gone wrong. 

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