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[quote user="corbs"]It is true that in recent years our fortunes have been similar, and we perhaps have similar potential, but I feel we cannot compete with the Gippeswyk history (League Champions, F.A Cup, and UEFA). I also dis-agree with the claim that the capital of East Suffolk is some kind of dump. It does not compare to Norwich but I lived in the town for 3 years and it is a pleasant environment. Nevertheless there are 3 types of fans : 1. Those that support one of the 2 Clubs (but who wish the other Club well, cos we are all East Anglians etc) 2. Those who passionately support NCFC/ITFC but who enjoy the rivalry (hence want each team to play each other), and 3. Those who just wish ever kind of ill on their East Anglian rivals. I belong in the 3rd camp. My personal view is that City have conducted themselves with some credit and decency in these recent years, but the same cannot be said for the Evans regime at Town. I am looking forward to our new challenge, and will be monitoring the progress or lack of it in Suffolk (where I will soon be on holiday). [/quote] In what way has the Evans regime at Town not conducted themselves with credit and decency?

[quote user="visitingblueboy"]Sorry about Crazy. If the tone of a thread is going down the pan, he''s the one to pull the chain. Anyway as most of you realised (but some didn''t) I didn''t want to make a big thing of your relegation, rather to highlight what I consider the weaknesses in your club at the moment from the other side of the fence, as it were. The job of the owners must be terribly difficult. If they are fans of the club (as your two are) they have got a huge emotional and financial investment in the team and they must feel powerless to arrest the decline. On top of this, when things go badly they face abuse from the fans which they don''t know how to stop. Owning a football club when you have a little money - but not a shed load - must be torture. The fundamental problem though is that the team at the top don''t seem able to realistically evaluate their own weaknesses and take steps to rectify this (which is to appoint people to the board to bring expertise they lack - rather than self-improvement). You may well be fine. It could be that even with the debt you have you will have a sufficiently large playing budget (by League 1 standards) to virtually guarantee you a top half finish - possibly much higher. It could be that with a good start the large crowds and sense of momentum will see you through the season. We''ll see. [/quote]   In what way have i brought things down? I''m merely stating facts and responding in kind to budgies that don''t like them.

[quote user="GB1902"][quote user="crazy"][quote user="GB1902"][quote user="crazy"][quote user="GB1902"][quote user="crazy"] [quote user="SNAP"]Want to know the big dfference? Ipswich shafted a whole bunch of local businesses by wiping out their debt and going into adminsitration. It cost hem nothing as the 10-point rule wasn''t in place. Thye wiped out years of similar mismanagemnt to Norwich at the expense of the community and then allowed a faceless profiteer to buy their debt from Norwich Union for a pittance and roll it back into the club. Would I want to follow a club like that - not really.[/quote] You obviously don''t know your own club''s history. "City went into voluntary liquidation on 10 December 1917.[5] The club was officially reformed on 15 February 1919. In May 1920, The Football League formed a third Division and Norwich joined the Third Division for the following season." [/quote] Your comparing a period in which half of the Norwich players and fanbase were being shot to s**t in the trenches of France to a period where your greedy owners tried to live the dream and failed spectaculary...? As much as I agree with the original post at the start of this thread this comment just goes to show why you''ll always be a bunch of low grade tasteless common scum. [/quote] You wound up your club and started a new one to avoid paying your debts. These are the facts. As for "greedy owners trying to live the dream", that''s exactly why you''re in the shit now. You went for broke to try and make the prem ...that''s why you''ve had a team full of loanees since...and are now in League 1. And as for low grade tasteless common scum...bit rich from a bunch of supporters who think it''s ok to make fun of young women being murdered. Norwich fans need to look a bit closer to home before slinging accusations at anyone else. [/quote] During the first world war yes we wound up, like many clubs. Just how stupid are you if you can''t see the obvious difference between the 2 time periods? And actually no we didn''t go for broke trying to reach the prem, the board has massively under funded the club hence why we are in the position we are and had to rely on loan players. As for your other comments, well obviously I don''t agree with them and anyone saying them is a prat of the highest order, however I do remember Ipswich fans singing about Gunns daughter after she died. Can''t think Norwich fans have done anything which competes with that. Anyway enjoy your crowing for now. As much as we are going through a bad period and will be for a while, especially while the 2 incompetents we have in the board room are still there, football is circular and in a few years it''ll be us above you once again and in typical fashion you''ll be no where to be seen on these boards! [/quote] "No we didn''t go for broke trying to reach the prem" - deluded fool. Where''s all the parachute money, money for Green etc. gone? [/quote] Your right, where has the money gone? It didn''t go on players ergo we didn''t go for broke to try to get to the prem did we you dimwitted fool. Seriously we''ve just been relegated, it should be open season for your lot to fill your boots and this is the best you can come up with? You''re given a massive goal to score in and yet your still missing. Jesus wept... [/quote]   Oh dear, I''m not talking recently. Try looking further than the end of your nose. £3.5m for Earnshaw when you were already massively in debt springs to mind. As one of your fellow budgies says in this thread "I''m pretty sure they''ll do what they did over the last 4/5 years and spend it unwisely".

[quote user="GB1902"][quote user="crazy"][quote user="GB1902"][quote user="crazy"] [quote user="SNAP"]Want to know the big dfference? Ipswich shafted a whole bunch of local businesses by wiping out their debt and going into adminsitration. It cost hem nothing as the 10-point rule wasn''t in place. Thye wiped out years of similar mismanagemnt to Norwich at the expense of the community and then allowed a faceless profiteer to buy their debt from Norwich Union for a pittance and roll it back into the club. Would I want to follow a club like that - not really.[/quote] You obviously don''t know your own club''s history. "City went into voluntary liquidation on 10 December 1917.[5] The club was officially reformed on 15 February 1919. In May 1920, The Football League formed a third Division and Norwich joined the Third Division for the following season." [/quote] Your comparing a period in which half of the Norwich players and fanbase were being shot to s**t in the trenches of France to a period where your greedy owners tried to live the dream and failed spectaculary...? As much as I agree with the original post at the start of this thread this comment just goes to show why you''ll always be a bunch of low grade tasteless common scum. [/quote] You wound up your club and started a new one to avoid paying your debts. These are the facts. As for "greedy owners trying to live the dream", that''s exactly why you''re in the shit now. You went for broke to try and make the prem ...that''s why you''ve had a team full of loanees since...and are now in League 1. And as for low grade tasteless common scum...bit rich from a bunch of supporters who think it''s ok to make fun of young women being murdered. Norwich fans need to look a bit closer to home before slinging accusations at anyone else. [/quote] During the first world war yes we wound up, like many clubs. Just how stupid are you if you can''t see the obvious difference between the 2 time periods? And actually no we didn''t go for broke trying to reach the prem, the board has massively under funded the club hence why we are in the position we are and had to rely on loan players. As for your other comments, well obviously I don''t agree with them and anyone saying them is a prat of the highest order, however I do remember Ipswich fans singing about Gunns daughter after she died. Can''t think Norwich fans have done anything which competes with that. Anyway enjoy your crowing for now. As much as we are going through a bad period and will be for a while, especially while the 2 incompetents we have in the board room are still there, football is circular and in a few years it''ll be us above you once again and in typical fashion you''ll be no where to be seen on these boards! [/quote] I was responding to how many of your fans claim we deliberately went into admin to con local businesses - we didn''t want to and I''m sure Norwich don''t want to now (although it could happen) "No we didn''t go for broke trying to reach the prem" - deluded fool. Where''s all the parachute money, money for Green etc. gone? "Can''t think Norwich fans have done anything which competes with that" - err, I''ve just explained something that does. The Gunn''s daughter stuff was a very small minority

[quote user="Ween_Nasty"][quote user="crazy"] [quote user="SNAP"]Want to know the big dfference? Ipswich shafted a whole bunch of local businesses by wiping out their debt and going into adminsitration. It cost hem nothing as the 10-point rule wasn''t in place. Thye wiped out years of similar mismanagemnt to Norwich at the expense of the community and then allowed a faceless profiteer to buy their debt from Norwich Union for a pittance and roll it back into the club. Would I want to follow a club like that - not really.[/quote] You obviously don''t know your own club''s history. "City went into voluntary liquidation on 10 December 1917.[5] The club was officially reformed on 15 February 1919. In May 1920, The Football League formed a third Division and Norwich joined the Third Division for the following season." [/quote] ...if we''re going in to ancient history can we talk about your Uefa cup campaign and FA Cup win? [/quote] LOL, funny how Norwich fans like to sweep history under the carpet. Wonder why.

[quote user="GB1902"][quote user="crazy"] [quote user="SNAP"]Want to know the big dfference? Ipswich shafted a whole bunch of local businesses by wiping out their debt and going into adminsitration. It cost hem nothing as the 10-point rule wasn''t in place. Thye wiped out years of similar mismanagemnt to Norwich at the expense of the community and then allowed a faceless profiteer to buy their debt from Norwich Union for a pittance and roll it back into the club. Would I want to follow a club like that - not really.[/quote] You obviously don''t know your own club''s history. "City went into voluntary liquidation on 10 December 1917.[5] The club was officially reformed on 15 February 1919. In May 1920, The Football League formed a third Division and Norwich joined the Third Division for the following season." [/quote] Your comparing a period in which half of the Norwich players and fanbase were being shot to s**t in the trenches of France to a period where your greedy owners tried to live the dream and failed spectaculary...? As much as I agree with the original post at the start of this thread this comment just goes to show why you''ll always be a bunch of low grade tasteless common scum. [/quote] You wound up your club and started a new one to avoid paying your debts. These are the facts. As for "greedy owners trying to live the dream", that''s exactly why you''re in the shit now. You went for broke to try and make the prem ...that''s why you''ve had a team full of loanees since...and are now in League 1. And as for low grade tasteless common scum...bit rich from a bunch of supporters who think it''s ok to make fun of young women being murdered. Norwich fans need to look a bit closer to home before slinging accusations at anyone else.

[quote user="still holding out for new heroes"] [quote user="SNAP"]Want to know the big dfference? Ipswich shafted a whole bunch of local businesses by wiping out their debt and going into adminsitration. It cost hem nothing as the 10-point rule wasn''t in place. Thye wiped out years of similar mismanagemnt to Norwich at the expense of the community and then allowed a faceless profiteer to buy their debt from Norwich Union for a pittance and roll it back into the club. Would I want to follow a club like that - not really.[/quote] Nail firmly hit on head...administration = no debt = cheaper to buy - hence why Southampton will be getting a buyer and we won''t....if we were to go into adminstation which I don''t want we would become immediately more attractive to every dodgy arms dealer or money launderer which 10 million knocking around [/quote] Why is everyone with money a "dodgy arms dealer or money launderer"? Jealous? At the end of the day you''d sell your own grandma to have a Marcus Evans taking over your club. 

[quote user="SNAP"]Want to know the big dfference? Ipswich shafted a whole bunch of local businesses by wiping out their debt and going into adminsitration. It cost hem nothing as the 10-point rule wasn''t in place. Thye wiped out years of similar mismanagemnt to Norwich at the expense of the community and then allowed a faceless profiteer to buy their debt from Norwich Union for a pittance and roll it back into the club. Would I want to follow a club like that - not really.[/quote] You obviously don''t know your own club''s history. "City went into voluntary liquidation on 10 December 1917.[5] The club was officially reformed on 15 February 1919. In May 1920, The Football League formed a third Division and Norwich joined the Third Division for the following season."

[quote user="St.John Cooper"] Football is just a game! The real difference between Ipswich and Norwich is...... Norwich is a beautiful city and a wonderful place to live and to grow up while Ipswich is a run down town not worth visiting let alone living in! Teams come and go along with relegation, promotion, boards and even trophies occasionaly.  What can not be changed is the Ipswich Town Centre, the surrounding areas and the cheap shops. I would rather have a bunch of amatuers running the club which in time will change than hail from somewhere as frankly as depressing as Ipswich. I understand Blueboy your post and agree with some of it but likewiswe I hope you can mine   Norwich....a Fine City   [/quote]   This is all very lovely but has absolutely nothing to do with football.

This is all very lovely but has absolutely nothing to do with football.