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  1. Posted

    I spend approx £100 in the club shop 4 times a year, aswell as paying for a family of four to go whenever we play at home when i am home, i think i give as much money to the club as i can afford in various spending ways.

  2. Posted

    no ones disputing the fact the rebate should be claimed if they want it back but alot of people are disgusted in some fans opinions that they want there money back from there season tickets or canceling the tickets completely because theyd rather have our club in adminitration then delia in charge, thats no way to be a fan,

    if i was a season ticket holder and there are very good reasons i aint one(ie being out of the country for six months at a time makes it not really viable for me)then i personally wouldnt have the rebate as the club needs all the finances they can get in this hard time. and thats the thought of some people on here to that they dont want the rebate because they dont want to hurt the club, this doesnt make them delia siege mentalists this makes them a fan like everyone on this forum and beyond, were all noriwch fans, well maybe not those who want the club to fail as i cant see why any fan would want that.

  3. Posted

    yeah she might of lost millions already but when someone comes along to buy the club she will make some back, if someone buys the club of course it will survive because the debt wouldve has to been paid off by the new ownerallbeit probably refinanced to pay for the club ala MANU style with the Glazers, debt secured on club to buy out delia and clear current debt, but if no investor or buyer can be found theres nothing that we can do, however if the club goes into administration because of half a million quid is paid out to fans not willing to forgo there rebate is hardly gonna make the club a good prospect for a buyer,

    why would a buyer buy a club whos fans are one minute the best in the country with there support at filling grounds then the next hurling abuse at a owner because they dont like the way things are done,

  4. Posted

    wats with all the devout delia fanisms going around, i for one do not like her, nor do i want her in charge, but i would be more happier to have delia in power then our club go the way of southampton and scarborourgh etc, i would rather have my club i support survive in league one then not have a club to support at all, does that make me a bad fan no, wat makes a pointless supporter is wiching the club to end up the way of southampton (non existent),

    i can guarantee every single member of NCISA would be probably be lynched by the majority of fans if it was there actions that caused norwich to cease to be,

    i like the NCISA, they have in past done some great work for the club but in the end thats all that can be done is to vent frustrations at meetings because until a viable option is found for the club we can do nothing about delias tenure until that viable option is found, rules are rules any buyer has to clear the debts and buy the majority shares, and make a offer for the remainder thats the rules, the debt is 20 million so 20 million will clear the debt, if i had shares i wouldnt let them go for free nor would any of you either so why should delia, shes a business woman after all(albeit not a very good one),

    quick question for everyone, if you owned norwich and it was going seriously wrong would you give your shares as owner away for nothing losing millions of your own money in the process. doubt it so why do yo expect the current owners to do this.

    LQ seems to be on the ball with wat a supporter is, support the club no maytter whos the owner, support the club no matter whos playing for em, support the club through thick and thin, the bad times and the worst times because thats what a fan does, yeah we are all frustrated at the position the clubs now but to want the club to fail and the club to go into administation and possibly exist that is certainly not what a fan is.

    Ive been a fan for over 25 years, ive ssen the good times like uefa cup, and ive seen the bad times like relegation to league one, and ive seen the worst times like the hurt and fear in peoples faces during the chase out protests but id go through all that again to make sure my club exists so i can support them no matter whos in charge,

  5. Posted

    SoB theres is a link between house prices and certain types of buildings, football grounds and various other building types certainly do have a affect and can drastically increase the price of house, the flats on the river down near the old jarrold printing building are cheaper then the ones on the river by carrow road, everywhere there is a dwonturn in the economy and the price of houses has gone down but the houses around the ground are still more expensive then the same type of house further down the river

  6. Posted

    [quote user="Sons of Boadicea"]RA All the Way - So what harm has administration done to Ippo?. I find your link to the flat prices near to the ground and NCFC puzzling, they are not selling particularly well at the moment given the economic downturn, I know somebody who has just purchased one for £18,000 under the original asking price, or given your link, is the price reduction down to the fact we are going to be playing in the third tier of English football? [/quote]

    Do ipswich own there own ground, no they dont, remember ipswich went into administration before the penaltys rule came in so the club wasnt penalised by the league for that, do you think ipswich would be in the position there in if they hadve started the season they went into administration with a points decuction, it may well have sent them into the league below and they certainly wouldnt of had the major investment from evans if that had of happened,

  7. Posted

    [quote user="blahblahblah"][quote user="Sons of Boadicea"]Bx3 - True, but that is not what posters are saying. The collective wisdom appears to be that a points deduction equals automatic relegation which is clearly not true as Rotherham, Bournemouth and Leeds Utd have all avoided being relegated despite starting the season on minus points, from memory Rotherham started this season on minus 17 points and managed to finish 14th. Administration may not be a bad thing, as we all know it is usually the worst tasting medicine that does us the most good.....[/quote]Our best chance of getting out of league 1 is at the first attempt - leave it any longer and the number of renewals will go down, whether or not they put shiny new yellow seats in.[/quote]

    but if they give the 500,000 back to the fans he cant have his shiny yellow seat due to lack of funds for SoB shiny yellow seat fund

  8. Posted

    [quote user="nutty nigel"]

    [quote user="Loan City Fc "]Get the right people running the club and a 15 point penalty wont be to hard to overcome , its not like we are getting promoted anytime soon with Smith running things.
    [/quote]

    It''s this simplistic view of administration being part of the modern games points totals and league positions that totally baffles me. Could someone explain the harsh reality of what administration could mean to our football club, city and county apart from the obvious football penalties? What would happen to our assets? What would happen to Colney and our ground? What would happen to our creditors?

    It goes a lot deeper than a few points and Smith&Jones losing money that they don''t expect to see again anyway.

     

    [/quote]

    under administration rules, all assetts of the club are frozen with view to being sold to repay the debts if no repayments solution can be found, the club is in 20 million of debt therfore if no buyer can be found to purchase the club under a rescue package the club will be wound down, the ground sold and the training ground sold to repay debts, as delia has loans with the club she would be by default allowed revenue back from the sale of the ground and fixed assets, scarboruogh town were the clear example of this the club had debts and went into adminstration no buyer was found and the courts granted closure of the club,

    under admin rules the club could be bought for a pound but any buyer would have to agree to refinance the club ultimately clearing all debts but exchanging the debts into his name and thus being liable for those debts,

    bates did this at chelsea bought the club for a pound and took all debts on with the club, unfortunately this can sometimes only be a temporary solution as with debts still on the club and the club not making a profit the club is unfortunately doomed to repeat the process.

    with regards to surrounding areas and affects, matchday money making pubs will be affected, the surrounding area with housing will affect house prices, the flats on the river front by the ground are a the price they are because of the football ground, no ground there no high price houses, not only that if unfortuantely the club does go under, job losses will happen, more unemployment,

    administration is not a good thing for any club

  9. Posted

    [quote user="Loan City Fc "]Get the right people running the club and a 15 point penalty wont be to hard to overcome , its not like we are getting promoted anytime soon with Smith running things.[/quote]

    it will because while the clubs in administration transfer embargos occur, so we wont be able to replace the crap on the pitch, plus in administration if the club cant find a buyer it could go the way of scarborough. and lets face it why would anyone want to buy a club thats got points deduction, no hope of getting back into the championship without major investment in the team at a huge cost to buy enough quality and whose fans turn on them when the going gets tough,

  10. Posted

    [quote user="Loan City Fc "]Administration could be the best thing for this club , if it was to get rid of Smith things might start to improve , let that woman keep running the club and we will get relegated again .[/quote]

    why would starting on -10 points be the best thing for the club, would you rather we were playing the likes of acrington stanley then playing in the championship, were gonna need all the luck and help to get us out of this league and by starting 10 points behind the rest wont help our situation, were already gonna find it tough in this league we dont need anything else making it hard work.

    i dont see why any fan would want the worst for the club, the clybs already at the worst point it doesnt need to be any worse off, things need to improve not get worse.

  11. Posted

    [quote user="Graham Humphrey"]

    [quote user="Royal Anglian all the way"]i mean if every fan tok that rebate the 500,000 could be the difference between administration[/quote]

    But if they couldn''t afford it why offer fans a rebate?

    [/quote]

    i dont think there expecting fans to take it up, i think its a case of a sweetner to try and keep fans happy, offer a rebate fans will think the clubs doing something for them and they wont accept it to help the club, stupid way of doing it as fans aint happy with them but to be honest i dont thin id accept a rebate if it meant financial ruin for the club especially as were in a league where revenue is seriously gonna be down and we werent making a profit in the championship and weve got no saleable assets in the team as the club at present seem to like accepiing reduced amounts for players,

  12. Posted

    i have to say i am against the request to get fans to accept there rebate, i mean if every fan tok that rebate the 500,000 could be the difference between administration, i personally would rather have gunn in charge then start the season -10 points already, now that could be the difference between relegation to league 2 or not,

  13. Posted

    [quote user="Smudger"]

    [quote user="Royal Anglian all the way"]id like to say a big congrats for the hardwork and turnout for the meeting i heard it went very well the only point id like ot know is where do we go from here, how many people actually turned out for the meeting and how many members does NCISA have and do they represent the views of the majority of fans or the minority, i would love to become a member and am considering the membership and benefits but am concerned that no matter what or how many people join any action could be a detrimental effect on the club, after all what happens if a buyer cant be found yet delia and her lackies get so fed up they just close the club and then sell the ground and its land assetts to make the money back,[/quote]

    They can''t do that... they have to either find a buyer or wait until the club goes in to administration.

    Wil be plenty of buyers there when the club eventually goes for nothing.

    [/quote]

    but whats to stop them from putting the club into administration, they have loans and as creditors theyd be entitled to money from the administration rulings but also administration would ultimately kill the club anyway

  14. Posted

    i completely agree ace, they were all voted with a resounding no, but like wise as previously said i will give him a chance as hopfully he will prove us all wrong because if he does then that means the team has succeeded and we will be back in the championship, and after all unanimously isnt that wat we all want for the team to succeed no matter whos in charge

  16. Posted

    [quote user="matt crowhurst"][quote user="Royal Anglian all the way"][quote user="matt crowhurst"]Totally For, and Jim your post was very nicely put and i think the sentiments of a lot more supporters than is given credit for[/quote]

    unfortunately i disagree, with your statement here, lokking at this sofar the majority on this thread alone are against hi sappointment myself included(although am willing to give him a chance) if the stats from this thread so far where translated across the fan base of noriwch the majority would be heavily towards the against the appointment but as not every fan is on the pinkun and not every fan will reply to the thread all we can judge is that so far the sample area votes taken are against[/quote]but as has been posted on here only roughly 200 odd people comment on here which isnt very representative at all as you have pointed out[/quote]

    this exactly the point but however if the choice of manager hadve been give over to the fans to vote on i really dont think gunn wouldve got the job, we know for a fact that last night a very small percent of nearly 600+ fans wouldve voted for his appointment, so far on here we can see a trend of the majority of posters wouldve not voted for him, and trends usually stay the same across the board, sociology basics, people when faced with a decision tend to stay in line with the majority as not to be ousted away from the majority, saying ull vote for something and voting for the thing ull say ull vote are 2 completely different things.

  17. Posted

    [quote user="matt crowhurst"]Totally For, and Jim your post was very nicely put and i think the sentiments of a lot more supporters than is given credit for[/quote]

    unfortunately i disagree, with your statement here, lokking at this sofar the majority on this thread alone are against hi sappointment myself included(although am willing to give him a chance) if the stats from this thread so far where translated across the fan base of noriwch the majority would be heavily towards the against the appointment but as not every fan is on the pinkun and not every fan will reply to the thread all we can judge is that so far the sample area votes taken are against

  18. Posted

    in a previous thread theres a lot of talk about figures and votes about who favours gunns appointment and who doesnt,

    well heres your chance to do the poll using the pinkun to find who is and who isnt and whos not sure on either

    well ill start no rude comments or abuse this is just to find out

    Myself im

    against the appoitnement - but willing to give him a chance

  19. Posted

    id like to say a big congrats for the hardwork and turnout for the meeting i heard it went very well the only point id like ot know is where do we go from here, how many people actually turned out for the meeting and how many members does NCISA have and do they represent the views of the majority of fans or the minority, i would love to become a member and am considering the membership and benefits but am concerned that no matter what or how many people join any action could be a detrimental effect on the club, after all what happens if a buyer cant be found yet delia and her lackies get so fed up they just close the club and then sell the ground and its land assetts to make the money back,

  21. Posted

    I agree and disagree with some of the things said here, i agree we need to get away from this delias little old norwich city, and norwich is delia, but delias canary catering does bring in a bit of income to the club,

    wat we need to be is norwich city, plain as, our own unique identity but there is nothing wrong with having delias canary catering still in there for money making, the restaurant does extremely well and thats down to delias name being on it so keep that seperate but still allow money to be amde from delias canaray catering but please for gods sake we need to have NORWICH CITY FC as exactly that a Football Club

  22. Posted

    [quote user="Loan City Fc "] Dont want scummer Lee at the club even if he was a freebie .[/quote]

    i agree with you on that front but not because hes a ex scummer, but because we need younger more passionate players who score a lot more then lee, goals is whats gonna get us out of league one and we need strikers who are gonna score not just run around with loadsa effort with no end result,

    my wife would go mad if i put in lodsa effort with out giving her the right result lmao

    we deserve better as fans then all the effort and no end result

  23. Posted

    [quote user="10 Bryceland"]

    Am I mistaken or was Gunn the Head of Player Recruitment prior to being manager?  Is so then doesn''t some of the responsibility for the players signed or loaned belong to him?

    Having said that although I did not want him for our manager now that we have got him we should all back him to the hilt next season.

    [/quote]

    u r right gunn was head of player recruiting but most of the players he tried to get signed the board refused to let him through lack of funding,

    ultimately we should be turning our attention and hatred to delia and the board instead of gunn and the two ians,

    remember a worker can only work with the tools provided and if those tools are shit the works gonna be shit,

  24. Posted

    yet no one blames the players for the relegation either, strange that, shit players yet they seem to immune from blame in there hand in relegation,

    said this before in a previous thread, why do we all blame gunn or relegation and not the players, strange that,

    gunn yeah was involved at time relegated so deserves some of the blame but so do the players so instead of all this gunn out business why not semmy out, croft out, russell out etc,

  25. Posted

    [quote user="cityangel"]But are there many fans who honestly wanted Gunn to get the job, out of all the people I speak to there''s only 1 lad who''s happy he''s staying, the rest wanted someone more experienced.[/quote]

    i think everyone would love to of had a more experienced manager but the only manager weve been linked to in the press was mark robins, who again is relatively unexperienced, we dont know how many managers have applied for the job and until we do for all we know gunn couldve been the only one,

    we had to get the management situation sorted quikly so can be better prepared for the forthcoming season, is gunn going to be a success i dont know, i hope he is as i want to see norwich back in the championship asap,

    nad just because i want gunn to succeed does not mean im a delia apologist, the reason i want gunn to succeed is to see norwich succeed, simple as,

    if gunn succeeds - norwich succeeds

    so why wouldnt i want gunn to succeed
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