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    14 minutes ago, Herman said:

    She and many others were calling for a full inquiry but a partial, party led inquiry was taken. Nothing much happened with it.

    What I was suggesting was the different levels of outrage for similar levels of bigotry, at the same time, just before an election,had a horrible smell of political football and partisanship at the time.

    I think Labour had carried out their own investigation as well but nothing happened and hence the whole thing continued to fester and got worse. Same thing may well happen with the Tories, I don’t know, but what is clear is that these sorts of allegations cant be swept under that carpet by any party without an unfavourable eventual outcome. 
    To be honest I’m not sure the “levels of bigotry” as you describe them were in fact similar, as evidenced by the EHRC involvement and investigation into Labour. I do agree though that there was an element of playing politics pre election, has always been thus and not surprising. I think the Country dodged a bullet with Corbyn, but then ended up getting shot in the @RSe by the Tories. Sad reflection. Let’s hope we can get a “decent” government in power next time, whatever it’s composition.

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    44 minutes ago, Herman said:

    There were at exactly the same time as the Corbyn/anti-semitism debate. See Sayeda Warsi for details about an inquiry.🤨

    The Equality  and Human Rights Commission initiated the investigation into the Labour Party because of specific complaints made to them regarding racism. Are you saying that similar complaints were made to the EHRC about the Tories regarding anti Muslim views and the EHRC failed to investigate them, if that is the case then they should be held to account for that decision, I don’t think that’s what happened but you may be right. 
    Racism exists in all parties, it shouldn’t be defended but exposed and dealt with. 

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    4 hours ago, A Load of Squit said:

    The views still exist in many groups not just some members of the Labour party.

    Abbots views are her own they are not related to the current leadership of the Labour party.

    Not the current leadership as I made clear.

    These are the findings of the report into anti semitism in the Labour Party, Abbotts comments illustrate that the problem has not yet been resolved 

    • “A clear breakdown of trust between the Labour Party, many of its members and the Jewish community”;
    • A culture that is “at odds with the Labour Party’s commitment to zero-tolerance of antisemitism”;
    • Serious failings in leadership, processes and culture in dealing with antisemitism within the Party;
    • Specific examples of unlawful harassment and unlawful indirect discrimination;
    • “Clear examples” of inappropriate political interference in individual antisemitism cases;
    • “An inadequate process for handling antisemitism complaints” across our Party;
    • Inadequate resourcing of the complaints process and poor record-keeping;
    • A failure to deliver adequate training for all those responsible for investigating antisemitism cases; and
    • Repeated failures to implement in full the recommendations of previous reports into antisemitism.

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    1 hour ago, A Load of Squit said:

    As it's no longer Corbyn's Labour Party shouldn't that be 'what was believed'?

     

     

    What IS believed by Diane Abbott and many more I suspect who tried to defend the Corbynite position of Labour re Anti Semitism. I hope that SKS is successful in his drive to clean things up, I fear the views may still exist in some groups within the party but are less vocal, until of course an incident like a slip of the pen by Ms Abbott reveals her true thoughts.

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    2 hours ago, lake district canary said:

    I still haven't got over that sacking. Some say it is better he went, but not for me. He was given a four year contract after a record breaking season and to sack him just as he was getting to grips with the hand he'd been dealt....with the horrendous starting fixture list, plus injuries, plus the nonsense over Cantwell and wee Billy.....was ridiculous. 

    To then appoint Smith seemed less than inspired at the time - and so it proved to be. Biiiiggg mistake sacking Farke.

    I like Leicester, so watching Deano take Leicester down will not be fun to watch.....why appoint someone who is so uninspiring when what you need is inspiration? 

    Yes, it was so much more than losing a manager for us, we also lost our identity.

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