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    7 minutes ago, MrBunce said:

    Other posters have covered Billy's strengths and weaknesses already. But I'm not surprised Chelsea have chosen to sell him. Two thoughts:

    The first is that you would have expected his performances to have improved over last season with more first team matches under his belt. Unfortunately, there was little improvement. 

    The second is the media briefing before Farke was sacked about Chelsea considering recalling him due to him not starting. I strongly doubt that Tuchel or his team would have briefed the media like that. Firstly, because Chelsea strongly rely on loaning players out and it is not good for them for dirty laundry to be aired in public. Secondly, because Tuchel and Farke have a good relationship. Thirdly, because, as we've seen, Tuchel just doesn't fancy Gilmour.

    My conclusion from that is that someone in Gilmour's camp briefed the media. The concern here is that he's got people around him who's first resort was moaning rather than encouraging Billy to knuckle down and ride it out. The reality was, it was only a few games he didn't start in and it really misjudged the mood in Norfolk. 

    I wish Gilmour well. I, like most Norwich fans, love watching technically gifted midfielders and we've had many of those down the years (among others, Crook, David Fox, Surman, Hoolahan and most recently Nunez). It's a shame it didn't work out and Gilmour won't be added to that list. 

    I doubt anyone briefed the media. It’s not exactly hard for them to see he’s not playing and make up a story that Chelsea aren’t happy about it. Given that in the end they were happy for him to stay and Gilmour was happy to stay, did in fact knuckle down and rode it out. 

    Fine, we know he did not get on well here, there’s no need to make **** up about it. 

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    I think the truth is the lack of money is starting to bite. Everyone points to the money spent last season but the truth is that Premier League teams spend that on one or two players, not 5 or 6, and they spend the same over a number of windows, not just one.

    I think the team is a bit stale now and it’s harder to get good players in to make the difference.

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    51 minutes ago, Virtual reality said:

    I’ve no love for Liverpool but the evidence all points to last night being an absolute **** show from Uefa and the French authorities. I don’t want it wrongly being blamed on Liverpool fans as I know damn well what would happen had this happened at Wembley last night and Madrid Vs PSG in the final 

    It can be both things at once though, both parties can be to blame.

    Whilst it might certainly be the case that the organisation was poor and it’s bad management from the French authorities, whoever thinks that scaling fences, turning up with fake tickets and charging through gates is anywhere near acceptable behaviour, and didn’t contribute to a bad situation, needs to rethink. 

    I think the problem for Liverpool is that whilst not all bad fan behaviour is caused by Liverpool fans, Liverpool fans seem to find themselves caught up in bad fan behaviour more often than not. The rush from the media to always try to protect and absolve them of blame only makes things worse - I’d have more sympathy with what happened last last night if they felt some responsibility for buying fake tickets and trying  to charge into the ground. 

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    10 minutes ago, komakino said:

    So the EPL is to blame for Norwich's City's failings this season? Yes there can be a healthy debate on the EPL as a whole, but blaming them for our issues is absurd. We've not even tried to compete because we do want to. 

    We have tried to compete but that’s the problem, without money you simply can’t. Everyone points to how we spent all that money last summer but the good teams in the PL spend that kind of money EVERY summer. That’s how you build PL teams, over time with one or two big signings every year. Because we can’t afford that, the one season we get money, we were trying to buy too many players to get proper quality - hence gambles on the likes of Normann who was injury prone or Tzolis who is very young.

    For all our failings on the pitch, at least we aren’t worried about whether our club will still exist next season, unlike Burnley who look ****ed.

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    5 minutes ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said:

    They have to have earned it first...theres plenty of club and international tournamenrs to officiate first before being handed a refereeing spot at a world cup finals

    If you read the article as well, they have referred at league and international level (Champions league, AFCON).

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    1 minute ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said:

    I would be 100% sure there. As I said , would it be the biggest surprise if this has been done for other reasons?

    I think it’s much worse that you see women being selected and jump to tokenism tbh instead of thinking that maybe they HAVE earnt it.

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    2 hours ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said:

    Its only good if theyre good enough to be there and not as tokenism

    I am sure they are good enough to be there or they wouldn’t be. In the same way Taylor and Oliver are there and dross like Friend or Hooper isn’t. It would be worse for everyone if they turned up and weren’t up to it in some way.

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    10 hours ago, Mello Yello said:

    Yep should be a cauldron of passion and noise.....I'll be watching it.....

    I'm sure Scotland's First Minister will also be watching and hoping for a Rangers Victory.... 

    Few football fans in Scotland apart from Rangers fans, want a Rangers victory. It’s like cheering Man Utd or Liverpool in a Champions league final. Nightmare, will here about it for ****ing years if they win.

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    Rogic is a good player but he never seems to be able to manage a full game. I always seem to watch games where he gets subbed - either on or off.

    The Scottish Prem is more physical than people give it credit for but if he can’t play a full 90 up here, he’ll never manage a full 90 in the Championship.

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    7 minutes ago, king canary said:

    It certainly isn't the be all and end and I do agree the desire to reduce everything to numbers can take some of the joy out.

    However, clubs do look at and use stats like these and there is generally quite a lot of complex modelling and maths that goes into it, so I don't think it should be dismissed out of hand.

    I work in an area where people are measured with metrics in a not too dissimilar way. The one thing we constantly try to drive is that stats like XG should never be looked at in isolation but along with qualitative evaluation as well.

    Actually looking at the quality of what is measured  is important because just looking at stats alone can be misleading. There was one game, Villa v Spurs, where Villa’s XG was a lot more than Spurs but Spurs won the game 4-0. Stats alone can lead you to make a lot of incorrect assumptions and bad judgements. 

    So whilst the clubs will use these stats, they will almost certainly be looked at alongside other evidence as well. Never on their own.

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    I think the main thing is that his style of football just doesn’t work well in the pL and that’s a big problem.

    What we’ve done is embedded his philosophy and then see it simply not work or need changed once we went up. This isn’t any use because players are in used to playing that style and are bought for that purpose. 

    You need someone who can be pragmatic and win the Championship playing football that has some chance of working in the PL, not necessarily brilliant but effective enough that you can keep the continuity between Championship football and Premier League.

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    6 hours ago, Danke bitte said:

    Never felt the need to sing or celebrate the national anthem. Nor do I dislike Liverpool FC. In fact out of the current top 4 surely they’re the easiest to get behind? 

    Not sure calling their fans “scum” is entirely warranted either. But yknow, the corner of the world called Norfolk anything  is possible when you don’t leave county lines. 

    I think the idea that they are the easiest to get behind and the media narrative of “everyone loves Liverpool” is exactly the reason people dislike them and want anyone else but them to win. 

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    15 minutes ago, Creative Midfielder said:

    It's a problem because we have been told repeatedly by Webber in the past that they plan well in advance (i.e. certainly before now) and often for two different scenarios when it hasn't yet become clear which league we will be playing in so the fact that we now where we will be next season doesn't really help at all because we should already have a plan for playing in the Championship next season in place.

    In truth, for this particular season we should have planned for the possibility of relegation right from the outset, and actually much of what Webber said last summer seemed to indicate that we had - all that guff about us signing young players with great potential that weren't expected to have an immediate impact but would greatly strengthen the squad in the long term. Yes, those same youngsters who within a few weeks morphed into players which Farke wasn't geting the best out of. Of course that hopeless Fake also didn't get the best out of our non-existent CDM who was (supposedly) the number 1 priority in last summer's plan!!

    So for DS to make that comment now suggests that Webber has been telling us complete **** about this as well as complete **** we now he kept telling us about succession planning for staff, viz. the Head Coach.

    The best plan for us now IMO, would be for the Board to dispense with both Webber and DS and start again because I don't believe that either of them have the ability to turn around the shambles they have turned us into this season.

    He’s talking about planning with certainty. I mean you have a plan ahead of time for both scenarios (staying up or relegation)  as both are possible but you don’t start taking concrete actions (I.e bringing back and looking at loan players) until you know which scenario will happen.

    This would be the totally normal way to plan for any range of events. People are looking for things to moan about here, this is not a problem.

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    36 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

    Can you blame him?

    Yes. He’s been as much a part of the problem as anyone else, missing half the season and then invisible when he has played since coming back. At least the rest are turning up and at least trying to put in a performance till the end of the season.

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    43 minutes ago, rock bus said:

    This is one of my concerns with Smith. I accept that he was given a poisoned chalice and the majority of the team wasn't up for the job but fact he hasn't really brought any players on and the only decent ones have now gone backwards. He doesn't appear to be much of a motivator.

    Would you not say he’s brought Rowe and Springett on? I would, given there wasn’t a suggestion of them playing first team football at the start of the season. I’d add Idah to that for the few games he was fit!

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  23. Posted

    I am not a massive Webber fan but I would have him stay.

    I think the fact that we bought the players to play possession football in the PL shows for me that 1) Farke had more say (and therefore responsibility)  in recruitment than we all believe and 2) The subsequent change early on was brought about by pragmatism when Farke realised it wouldn’t work.

    The main issue is the lack of money though. The blame for that I would say is that Delia and Michael, not for not selling but more that they don’t allow investment into club either.

    There is a fine line between buying players that work and don’t, even the biggest teams sign players who turn out to be awful. When you are shopping at the footballing equivalent of Poundstretcher, then the chances of getting a Buendia is much less than a Sargent or injured Normann. You are in the price bracket of needing to take risks.

    Whilst I think Webber got the recruitment wrong (I think they should have realised Farkeball wouldn’t work in the PL for us) I actually think a lot less of it is his fault than is being made out at the moment. I also think we have been incredibly unlucky with the fixture list, injuries and Covid. 

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    1 hour ago, lake district canary said:

    At the press conference after yesterday's match he said we are "a team recruited to play with the ball" and that they are not good enough at that nor good enough off the ball as a result.  The choice of words is interesting  - suggests recruitment was poor for this level, that the philosophy was wrong to want to try and play football - so is that just saying it as it is?  Or is he just passing the buck?

    I also think he just stating the facts tbh. He isn’t saying anything we don’t know to be true, or that we have been mostly saying ourselves on here. We recruited for Farkeball then realised we couldn’t do it as well as the others in the league.

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    2 minutes ago, canarydan23 said:

    The only people left who still think sacking Farke and replacing him with Smith are the ones who made a song and a dance about what a great move it was and are struggling to admit they're wrong.

    We all know it was ****ing stupid now. Some of us knew it at the time.

    It wasn’t stupid to sack Farke. He was terrible in the PL and there was nothing to suggest that he could change it. It was completely the correct decision.

    It remains to be seen whether Smith was the right appointment and I think we’ll see that either way in the Championship. The two things aren’t linked together. 

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