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  1. ReadingCanary wrote: "I just don''t think he''s a good motivator or manager when the times are tough though."

    Times couldn''t have been tougher at Birmingham when CH took over. Just relegated, transfer embargo, club in debt, owner under investigation and facing the additional burden of the Europa League. Creditable Europa League run and 4th place finish in the Championship Any signs of poor management or motivation there? Also, when Lee Clark was sacked in 2014, CH was the fans first choice to replace him.

    Why is that when people are slating his management record, his year at Birmingham gets ignored. Because it doesn''t fit with people''s preconceptions based purely on his time at Carrow Road?

  2. @Wes Hooly Fan

    The interesting question is why this was true of his spell at Norwich when not true of his time at Newcastle and Birmingham, and (so far at least this season apparently) at Brighton. I don''t believe CH himself has changed much between taking the reins at Newcastle and now. He has always set great store on defensively solidity as the foundation on which to build a successful team. Why did that create an apparently insoluble problem at Carrow Road? The answer surely must be that managerial success or failure is a function of many variables and it is naive to ignore other factors operative in the situation.

    For those who like to contrast Hughton and Lambert, if you look at their career management stats to date, CH has a Win Ratio of 40% compared to Lambert''s 39%. If you look only at their records at Carrow Road the stats are very different. But that''s no reason to misrepresent the career stats as a whole.

  3. This was the point of my post yesterday on Ray''s joke Russ Martin thread. People, Merson included, keep on about our needing someone to put the ball in the net. What we need is some of the many chances created by/for our front men and attacking midfield to go in. Yesterday Butland could just as well have saved anything Charlie Austin or Afobe or X, Y or Z fired at him. What we need is cover against injuries to crucial contributors to our attacking play, in particular Jerome and Hooligan.

  4. "Football by numbers"? You mean instilling the essential basics of team skills? Read any book about the great Arsenal back four schooled by George Graham, which was the rock on which Wenger''s successful Arsenal sides were built and it''s clear that that is exactly how their defensive solidity was achieved. Another way of putting it is everyone being in the right place at the right time as a defensive unit. The transition from defence to attack is the hardest thing of all to get right, and our players never did under Hughton. Under AN the emphasis has shifted, but every game is still, punctuated with examples of poor judgement and loss of shape, particularly in midfield -- the chief cause of our conceding goals.

  5. Continuing Ray''s theme, and taking yesterday''s game as an example, decent chances were missed by Jerome, Redmond, Dorrans, Howson, Johnson and (I think) Brady. Any striker we bring in is going to have to be superhuman to turn those misses into goals, Or maybe the idea is that the others all stop trying to get into goal scoring positions and just concentrate on providing assists?

  6. @PurpleCanary

    The "improvement" represented by the stats you quote cannot be attributed unqualifiedly to Adams, since some degree of short-term "bounce" is a common upshot of any change of manager in those situations.

    Indeed, given the consensus that the players had been significantly underperforming BECAUSE OF how they were managed, removing Hughton should surely have seen a much greater bounce than actually occurred quite irrespective of who the new manager was. I imagine that was what the board expected in removing Hughton, but their expectation was unfulfilled.

  7. [quote user="Lessingham Canary"]He made a few good signings (and one disastrous one) but his legacy will be shown in the record books as relegation, whilst some will never forget the boring, negative set up for matches and constant praising of the opposition (something i have never heard once from AN)[/quote]

    The "record books" may lead the blinkered to view our relegation as Hughton''s legacy (though in fact they will show that Adams was manager at the time). But serious historians of NCFC will recognise that CH''s true legacy was to complete the transformation of our club by keeping us up in his first season. That was a huge achievement and of far greater long term importance than the subsequent relegation.

  8. All I want is to sign someone

    Don’t matter who, just any old one

    Think of a name, it’s easily done

    Oh wouldn’t that be luv—er—ly

    Striker, centre back, number 10

    Seen him on Youtube scoring a pen

    We should just break the bank again and again

    Oh wouldn’t that be luv—er—ly

    McNally out, the club’s a joke

    Couldn’t even buy a pig in a poke

    If only they’d listen to us knowledgeable folk

    Oh wouldn’t that be luv—er—ly

    We’re a laughing stock for sure worldwide

    Club after club taking us for a ride

    Where’s King Canute to turn back the tide?

    Oh wouldn’t that be luv—er—ly

    We all trust Neil, the problem’s the Board

    They’re just sitting tight on the TV hoard

    Let’s pray for a Sheikh to cut the cord

    Oh wouldn’t that be luv—er—ly

    Really can’t stand that nutty and co,

    Happily clapping however things go

    Just once in a while why can’t they say “NO”?

    Oh wouldn’t that be luv—er—ly

    We post and we post and we post yet again

    It might just strike us somewhere, somewhen

    That we’ve nothing to say and we’ll stop pro tem

    NOW THAT WOULD REALLY BE LUV—ER—LY


  9. [quote user="Vanwink"]Indeed Yorkshire, our support for him will be measured by outcomes from this window. As things stand it''s looking pretty weak , I sincerly hope that things improve.

    I don''t like to see him being wheeled out to tell us all how difficult it is for newly promoted clubs![/quote]

    WHO will measure the club''s support for him by what happens in this transfer window? Anyone that matters?


  10. That the club is letting the manager down is simply a perception shared by Vanwink and a small number of other posters. Whether they genuinely believe it or are just intent on winding the rest of us up, no matter. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE AT ALL THAT IT IS A VIEW ALSO HELD BY ALEX NEIL End of story, end of thread.
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