Move Klose 303 Posted February 1, 2015 Norwich striker Kyle Lafferty lined up for loan move to Turkish club Rizespor. #ncfci know this was rumoured on satutday but this is from sky sports journo pete o''rourke. a sky sports source. he jus tweeted this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
splutcho 173 Posted February 1, 2015 If this were to happen, I would expect a big haul of players in tomorrow. Might not be the worst thing ever, because he''s not really done a lot for us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Move Klose 303 Posted February 1, 2015 hasnt worked (doesnt help hes a striker playing left wing tho) just like most of the summers transfers. would be nice to see 1 or 2 ins and outs tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJP 79 Posted February 1, 2015 I really like Lafferty but I''ve been saying for a little while this could be his first and last season here (if it even gets that far) because it just hasn''t quite worked. So it wouldn''t surprise me if he goes but I''d see it as a bit of a shame because I think he''s got something to offer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KoromaCrab 0 Posted February 1, 2015 was Lafferty ever played in the strikers position for Norwich?Perhaps he would have suited the one up front role better than Grabhan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Move Klose 303 Posted February 1, 2015 Cuellar - Donkey, too slow, gives away pensMiquel - nowhere near starting in the champHooiveld - too slow and already leftVadis - injured when ge signed, injured againMcGrandles - not ready, whittaker started CM ahead of himO''Neill - been ok, good in possesionLafferty - played outta position, too rash, not worth £3mGrabban - been ok, not worth £3mJerome - great signing, great price Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 0 Posted February 2, 2015 [quote user="CJRV 2014"]Cuellar - Donkey, too slow, gives away pensMiquel - nowhere near starting in the champHooiveld - too slow and already leftVadis - injured when ge signed, injured againMcGrandles - not ready, whittaker started CM ahead of himO''Neill - been ok, good in possesionLafferty - played outta position, too rash, not worth £3mGrabban - been ok, not worth £3mJerome - great signing, great price[/quote]Cuellar - hasn''t been great, but certainly no worse than any other option bar perhaps Martin, who despite some detractors has been our most consistant defender this season for me. And possibly Bassong, but that''s one game.Miquel - We''ll see, but as stated before, if he is as crap as some are suggesting then Ryan Bennett has to be considered as crap considering the few starts he has had in the three years he has been with us since his £3million + signing.Hoiveld - was on loan and with Bassong back, made no sense to keep him.Vadis - a Belgian international at a time when getting into the Belgian squad is a tough task. Looked good in time he has had on the pitch, has been unfortunate. Ruling him out as a waste is nothing short of pathetic.McGrandles - when he was signed, Adams and Holt said he was one for the future. At 19 that''s pretty fair.O''Neill has been one of our better performers for me. Solid and consistent.Lafferty started up front vs Middlesborough, gives 100% when played. Is out of position due to being willing to play for the team and track back as well as the form of Jerome, Hooper and earlier in the season Grabban. Our strikeforce is still better for me, this season compared to last. Also - did we pay £3million for Laffterty? I thought it was 3million euros max (inc add ons etc).Grabban - you are arguing he is not worth £3million. I think when you look at the inflated market values at the moment he wasn''t a bad price - Jerome was an absolute bargain. But again, if you compare Grabban''s price to Hooper''s you''d have to concede that Hooper is just as much over priced.The point is all of these players have played in successful teams at some point. What they have not done this season is played consistantly as a team together when they have played.Hoiveld was part of the Southampton team that gained promotion and then stayed in the premier league. Cuellar was part of the Aston Villa side under Martin O''Neil who finished in the top 10 of the premier league. Jerome saw success with Birmingham and then Stoke. Grabban was one of the top scorers in the league last season. O''Neil has how many promotions to the premier league on his record now? Not to mention premier league experience.It''s very easy to slag off members of a squad that are struggling for consistant form. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
havemyhowsonit 0 Posted February 2, 2015 As we are all having an opinion on the players in question. I''ll make it short. All of the above = dog turdEven Cameron ''offside'' jerome and those misses against millwall.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 936 Posted February 2, 2015 Lafferty to Rizespor?A turkey to Turkey then [;)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pablofarmer 0 Posted February 2, 2015 Feels sory Laffery, Works really hard, yes can be rash sometimes and hasn''t scored many nut I like him! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reggie Strayshun 0 Posted February 2, 2015 Afraid that Lafferty is always an accident/yellow card waiting to happen. But I''ll readily admit that he''s never been played in his best position.Agree that of the summer signings , only Jerome can be classed as an unqualified success, though, to be fair, Grabban and O''Neil are in credit. I believe that , in time Grabban will come good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Greenthumb 749 Posted February 2, 2015 If it means we get a left winger this is good business as we have 3 better strikers already and he is by no means a winger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 936 Posted February 2, 2015 Lafferty is yet another striker, in a long line of recent strikers (RVW, Becchio, Hooper, Grabban, Morison) who, to a greater or lesser extent were prolific before they came here but useless after they arrivedNot sure what that says about our methods as a Club Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smooth 114 Posted February 2, 2015 A ticking time bomb... To be honest if we went up he is not good enough for the prem and if we stayed down not good enough for the long term. He is not getting better, he has a level.As does grabban.I am all in favour in players on the move if AN gets quality in. We need quality and should have added that in the summer.We need a big day if anything is going to be positive going into th final third of the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,531 Posted February 2, 2015 The games I saw him at earlier in the season, Lafferty was one of our best players on the pitch, marauding down the left hand side causing problems, also running back to cover more than others do. He hasn''t scored many, but has hit the woodwork several times too. His tactical awareness is good and he is one of the hardest working players imo in the squad. Also, he has not really been played out of position as he has spent quite a lot of his career out on the left hand side. He has a great free kick in him (his miscue free kick was unfortunate) and overall a useful player to have. His only downside appears to be his heading, which is maybe why he hasn''t played up front that much in his career - and his temperament appears a bit suspect at times - but imo he is one of those that if managed correctly, that would not be a problem. Can''t understand why people put out false stuff about him being useless - he has been far from that and when struggling for form he has maybe tried too hard or got frustrated - but his contribution - so far - has been quite important in our success. Once the spine of the team plays well and consistently, players like Lafferty will do better. Most of our problems this season have imo been the defence/central midfield and a lack of cohesion/discipline there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newton 0 Posted February 2, 2015 No matter how its all dressed up - the summer transfer window was a disaster 10 signings and the only ones who have helped improve the quality of the squad are Jerone, Grabbam & O''Neil We are not a big enough club to be signing players for the future and paying fees for them (plus ongoing wages) - you have to question the rationale behind Miquel, Grandles & Thompson What we needed in the summer was signings that would make a difference - this did not rearly happen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newton 0 Posted February 2, 2015 lake district canary wrote the following post at 02/02/2015 9:20 AM:The games I saw him at earlier in the season, Lafferty was one of our best players on the pitch, marauding down the left hand side causing problems, also running back to cover more than others do. He hasn''t scored many, but has hit the woodwork several times too. His tactical awareness is good and he is one of the hardest working players imo in the squad. Also, he has not really been played out of position as he has spent quite a lot of his career out on the left hand side. He has a great free kick in him (his miscue free kick was unfortunate) and overall a useful player to have. You must have watched different games to me, he never lasted more than 60mins (suspect fitness), constantly gave a way free kicks - booked upteen times, not very good at tracking back, leaving Olssen exposed, over 6ft but struggled to win any headers - why did Adams sign a centre forward & play him left midfield ? Wrong man wrong position, not needed in the squad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,657 Posted February 2, 2015 Newton, you are extremely one-eyed on this. The truth is that Cuellar has also done ok, Miquel, McGrandles and the lad from Swindon were always going to be more for the future; of the others Lafferty has played most games he''s been available for, so clearly considered to be doing his job ok. We can''t really comment on VOO due to injuries. The point is, I doubt the summer was any more or less of a success than any other - there will always be ones that work immediately and those that don''t work at all - lambert bought in plenty of duffers, for example. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Convento 14 Posted February 2, 2015 So it looks like most are keen to get rid of one of the very few who is willing to put in the 110% needed if we are to turn things around. Anyone who watched the Brentford game (among others recently) could be left in no doubt about how bad the motivational crisis has become. Lafferty,to his credit, has proved a very willing workhorse for the team, even when constantly played out of position - and to think he was advertised as having a bad attitude when we signed him... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,531 Posted February 2, 2015 [quote user="Newton"]lake district canary wrote the following post at 02/02/2015 9:20 AM:The games I saw him at earlier in the season, Lafferty was one of our best players on the pitch, marauding down the left hand side causing problems, also running back to cover more than others do. He hasn''t scored many, but has hit the woodwork several times too. His tactical awareness is good and he is one of the hardest working players imo in the squad. Also, he has not really been played out of position as he has spent quite a lot of his career out on the left hand side. He has a great free kick in him (his miscue free kick was unfortunate) and overall a useful player to have. You must have watched different games to me, he never lasted more than 60mins (suspect fitness), constantly gave a way free kicks - booked upteen times, not very good at tracking back, leaving Olssen exposed, over 6ft but struggled to win any headers - why did Adams sign a centre forward & play him left midfield ? Wrong man wrong position, not needed in the squad[/quote]Do you not read or take things in? I''ve already told you that Lafferty has spent a large part of his career playing on the left, one of the reaons being because his heading is not as good as it could be for a striker. And maybe you didn''t go to the games earlier in the season where he did well. But I did and can assure you he was a big part of our early season success. That things had to change was more down to an undisciplined central midfield and poor defending. As for tracking back - Lafferty is one of the better players for doing that and is maybe one of the reasons he flags later in games - because his work rate is up there with the best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newton 0 Posted February 2, 2015 Lake seen all home games & 4 x away games - wont go away at the moment as not happy about whats going onLafferty effort 110% yes - contribution doubtful for the reasons already stated - plus never last longer than 60 mins - please dont say he gets tired because he runs back a lot - plus booked in nearly every appearance and does not jump his height Why oh why was he signed and then constantly played left midfield, he may have played there in the past but we have been crying out for a genuine left midfielder since Pilks & Surman left - Lafferty stop gap perhaps but not a permemnet replacement If he is not needed upfront & needs to be moved on, hopefully today Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reggie Strayshun 0 Posted February 2, 2015 [quote user="lake district canary"] I''ve already told you that Lafferty has spent a large part of his career playing on the left, one of the reaons being because his heading is not as good as it could be for a striker. And maybe you didn''t go to the games earlier in the season where he did well. But I did and can assure you he was a big part of our early season success. That things had to change was more down to an undisciplined central midfield and poor defending. As for tracking back - Lafferty is one of the better players for doing that and is maybe one of the reasons he flags later in games - because his work rate is up there with the best. [/quote]Hmm, Lakey, all that may or may not be the case. For me Lafferty did OK in some of the early games, but no better than that.BUT....the fact is that when he was signed, Adams was at pains to tell us how he was a proven, experienced striker, able to hold the ball up, had a good goalscoring record at this level, big and strong Etc Etc Etc. I might paraphrase, but the inference was that he was purchased as a striker. Not as a left sided midfielder.Truthfully we have better options in that area, and, if we have not, I''m sure Neil is astute enough to be addresing that, if not today, then either in the loan market or in the summer windeow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites