lake district canary 4,520 Posted February 4, 2015 [quote user="Goss93"]Would like to see this:RuddyWhittaker Martin Bassong OlssonTetteyAndreu HowsonBennett Jerome RedmondAN favoured a similar system at Hamilton, would be good to see Howson and Andreu getting into goal scoring positions, with Jerome our best striker with his back to goal laying it off to them. Wes, Hooper, Grabban and Murphy all good impact subs. Could play another DM away from home (Johnson or O''Neill if fit).[/quote]Interesting! I''ve heard several views of what AN favoured. I had read he favoured a 4141 system - others have said he favoured a 4231, now you say he favoured a 4123! I suppose formations are flexible anyway, but it will be interesting to see if we settle into a definite pattern of play, or whether we change it around more. Like the personel in your team, but could be set out as a 451, which would work well imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drazen Muzinic 1,421 Posted February 4, 2015 [quote user="Bor Bor Bor"]This is it, trust me__________Ruddy__________Martin, Turner, Bassong, Olsson_______Johnson, Tettey______Redmond____Andreu,____Grabban__________Jerome___________[/quote]I like this line-up. Should be worth at least a 12-0 win.My only concern is there isn''t much booing fodder here - where''s the scapegoat?Plus if Mystic Bor has posted it, it will be so. After your Andreu prediction Bor, I bought my ticket for tomorrow night''s draw - sorry to dilute your win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrs miggins 0 Posted February 4, 2015 But playing Grabban on the left wasn''t even a good idea before we tried it the first time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
York Canary 28 Posted February 5, 2015 Surely Hooper is a starter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
York Canary 28 Posted February 5, 2015 [quote user="GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary"]I dont see the need to deviate from this?..............RuddyMartin Turner Bassong OlssonRedmond Howson Tettey Johnson Jerome Hooper.a system which was working reasonably well until the recent spate of injuries and suspensions with Johnson doing a decent job down the left and chipping in with the odd goal and now with the bonus of Bassong in the back line.I cant see how people are suggesting breaking up a fairly succesful partnership of Jerome and Hooper in favour of Grabban or a untested Andreu??!?[/quote]Find myself agreeing about Jerome and Hooper. Maybe play Hooper slightly off Jerome, but definitely stick with him as he''s probably the best finisher and has quick feet. Started to hit form too. Not sure about Jono though because I thought AN liked out-and-out wingers? Could be making that up, but I reckon he''ll go Bennett and Redmond on the wings. I imagine Andreu will start on the bench to be honest. Going to be a step up in pace in the Championship Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barossa 0 Posted February 5, 2015 Has the FIFA clearance come through for Andreu to play yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
im spartacus canary 0 Posted February 5, 2015 [quote user="Barossa"]Has the FIFA clearance come through for Andreu to play yet?[/quote]no! i can''t afford the microsoft points... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katie Borkins 1 Posted February 5, 2015 [quote user="mrs miggins"]But playing Grabban on the left wasn''t even a good idea before we tried it the first time.[/quote]It was where he did well for Bournemouth... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Wall Of Tettey 0 Posted February 5, 2015 It''s pretty obvious from dropping hooper down to the bench at birmingham and then signing andreu he''s trying to accommodate his 4142/4231/433 formation....effectively is the same formation by just adjusting the advanced positions of the wingers. I think he will go with:RuddyWhittaker martin Bassong olssonTettey JohnsonRedmond Howson/andreu bennettJeromeId like to see turner come in alongside bassong and martin at right back but thats more personal preference. As for andreu, he will be a start for us in the near future you''d imagine, but I hope the lights of Howson don''t get left out for him, IMO our best advanced creative midfielder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrs miggins 0 Posted February 5, 2015 He only played on the left once last season for Bournemouth in the league.He also played on the right twice and as a number 10/shadow striker just the once.But mostly he played either up top on his own or in a two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woodman 92 Posted February 5, 2015 I worry when our manager says he doesn''t think Hooper suited the formation last weekend. He and Jerome have struck up a good partnership with Hooper linking well with the midfield. I''d go with...RuddyWhittaker Martin Bassong OlssonTetteyRedmond Howson JohnsonHooperJeromeWith the whole squad fit, we are very strong with R Bennett, Turner, Garrido, Cuellar, Wes, O''Neil, Vadis, Andreu, E Bennett, Grabban and Murphy to come in - all of them would be first choice in most Championship teams. The key is in getting them to perform to their potential. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Wal 314 Posted February 5, 2015 Woodman wrote the following post at 05/02/2015 10:44 AM:........... With the whole squad fit, we are very strong with R Bennett, Turner, Garrido, Cuellar, Wes, O''Neil, Vadis, Andreu, E Bennett, Grabban and Murphy to come in - all of them would be first choice in most Championship teams. The key is in getting them to perform to their potential.No the key is, as it has been all season, to get the players to perform as a unit. Our teamwork has been our major downfall.Last season we had only one system with no ''Plan B'', this season it seems to change most weeks and we have played far too many systems and formations.Hopefully AN will get a settled system and get the players playing to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feedthewolf 4,790 Posted February 5, 2015 [quote user="The Great Wall Of Tettey"]It''s pretty obvious from dropping hooper down to the bench at birmingham and then signing andreu he''s trying to accommodate his 4142/4231/433 formation....effectively is the same formation by just adjusting the advanced positions of the wingers. I think he will go with:RuddyWhittaker martin Bassong olssonTettey JohnsonRedmond Howson/andreu bennettJeromeId like to see turner come in alongside bassong and martin at right back but thats more personal preference. As for andreu, he will be a start for us in the near future you''d imagine, but I hope the lights of Howson don''t get left out for him, IMO our best advanced creative midfielder[/quote]Agree with all of that, both what I think he''ll go with and what I would go with.All I would question is whether Howson is actually that creative; yes, he''s attack-minded and he loves bombing forward with or without the ball, getting in the box and getting on the end of things, but in terms of creativity I don''t think he can hold a candle to Wes. All round Jonny is the better player, but Wes has that ability to tear a defence apart with a genius pass over 15-20 yards that no one else predicts.Anyone know where Andreu sits on the Howson-to-Hoolahan dichotomy? I''m guessing from the Pinkun''s rather extravagant Lampard comparison that he''s more of a Howson... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Wall Of Tettey 0 Posted February 5, 2015 [quote user="Feedthewolf"][quote user="The Great Wall Of Tettey"]It''s pretty obvious from dropping hooper down to the bench at birmingham and then signing andreu he''s trying to accommodate his 4142/4231/433 formation....effectively is the same formation by just adjusting the advanced positions of the wingers. I think he will go with:RuddyWhittaker martin Bassong olssonTettey JohnsonRedmond Howson/andreu bennettJeromeId like to see turner come in alongside bassong and martin at right back but thats more personal preference. As for andreu, he will be a start for us in the near future you''d imagine, but I hope the lights of Howson don''t get left out for him, IMO our best advanced creative midfielder[/quote]Agree with all of that, both what I think he''ll go with and what I would go with.All I would question is whether Howson is actually that creative; yes, he''s attack-minded and he loves bombing forward with or without the ball, getting in the box and getting on the end of things, but in terms of creativity I don''t think he can hold a candle to Wes. All round Jonny is the better player, but Wes has that ability to tear a defence apart with a genius pass over 15-20 yards that no one else predicts.Anyone know where Andreu sits on the Howson-to-Hoolahan dichotomy? I''m guessing from the Pinkun''s rather extravagant Lampard comparison that he''s more of a Howson...[/quote]Personally I don''t think Howson has been given enough game time behind the striker, and I remember an article a year or so ago saying he wants to play in that role but is more than happy to get game time in centre midfield. My only issue with hoolahan is when we play a 4411 I find hoolahan just isolates the striker. Always such a massive gap between the forward and the rest of the midfield. He doesn''t get into the box enough and contribute with goals, he''s much more suited and had his best game behind 2 strikers, but I think the diamond is old news now with teams playing so many midfielders we would get overrun. As for andreu, he''s been playing as a second striker for the majority, or slightly behind the forward. Doesn''t spend much time on the ball, is more of a give and go type of player and then makes his way into the box Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HertsCanary93 222 Posted February 6, 2015 Gk - RuddyRb - MartinCb - BassongCb - TurnerLb - OllsonCm - HowsonCm - WhitickerLW - BennettRw - RedmondSt - HooperSt - Jerome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Six Pack 89 Posted February 6, 2015 Gk - Ruddy Rb - E Bennett Cb - Bassong Cb - Martin Lb - Garrido Cm - Howson Cm - Hoolahan LW -Ollson Rw - Redmond St - Andreu AM - Vardis Go for a 6-5 win Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Jenkins 0 Posted February 6, 2015 HertsCanary93 wrote the following post at 06/02/2015 3:00 AM:Gk - Ruddy Rb - Martin Cb - Bassong Cb - Turner Lb - Ollson Cm - Howson Cm - Whiticker LW - Bennett Rw - Redmond St - Hooper St - Jerome Were you drunk when you wrote this Herts, or just feeling a little mischievous !😳 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HertsCanary93 222 Posted February 6, 2015 I think a little bit of both Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted February 6, 2015 Andreu hasn''t got clearance to play yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
te94 0 Posted February 6, 2015 Diamond RuddyMartin Turner Bassong OlssonRedmond Tettey Johnson Andreu Hooper JeromeI see Andreu as the potential successor to Hoolahan, a player we''ve been crying out for ever since we were able to use the diamond so successfully under the messiah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted February 6, 2015 Just been announced Andreu has his clearance through.Good stuff[:)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shyster 0 Posted February 6, 2015 Good stuff indeed, morty - I reckon we''d be hard pushed to get a decent result against the bottom club in the Division without Andreu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted February 6, 2015 [quote user="Shyster"]Good stuff indeed, morty - I reckon we''d be hard pushed to get a decent result against the bottom club in the Division without Andreu.[/quote]Oh you *rolls eyes* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted February 6, 2015 Hahaha, look what I found, from back in the day![URL=http://s869.photobucket.com/user/mortymccarthy/media/poster.jpg.html][IMG]http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab257/mortymccarthy/poster.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feedthewolf 4,790 Posted February 6, 2015 [quote user="The Great Wall Of Tettey"]Personally I don''t think Howson has been given enough game time behind the striker, and I remember an article a year or so ago saying he wants to play in that role but is more than happy to get game time in centre midfield. My only issue with hoolahan is when we play a 4411 I find hoolahan just isolates the striker. Always such a massive gap between the forward and the rest of the midfield. He doesn''t get into the box enough and contribute with goals, he''s much more suited and had his best game behind 2 strikers, but I think the diamond is old news now with teams playing so many midfielders we would get overrun. As for andreu, he''s been playing as a second striker for the majority, or slightly behind the forward. Doesn''t spend much time on the ball, is more of a give and go type of player and then makes his way into the box[/quote]I think Wes is a good sub to bring on when we need a creative spark against tiring legs – totally agree about the diamond being old news and about Wes in a 4-4-1-1. I see the forward six lining up something like this:----------------------Tettey--------------------------------Andreu---------Howson---------Redmond--------------------E.Bennett (or Grabban, or loan player)--------------------Jerome--------------------Bit harsh on Hooper and BJ, but we''ve got options. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shyster 0 Posted February 6, 2015 And ol'' blachmange face has let me down as much as you, morty.Turns out he''s a socialist manipulated by Brussels like the rest of the liblabcon.Corrupt wa*kers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZLF 261 Posted February 6, 2015 No contribution from Ray? Usually some hints as to what the likely selection will be from his comments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Move Klose 303 Posted February 6, 2015 RuddyWhittaker Martin Bassong OlssonRedmond Tettey Howson JohnsonHooper JeromeRudd Turner Garrido Andreu McGrandles Murphy Grabban Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,092 Posted February 6, 2015 Andreu will be on the bench. Won''t surprise me if Olsson is dropped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk Mustard 94 Posted February 6, 2015 [quote user="UpperBarclay"]Andreu will be on the bench. Won''t surprise me if Olsson is dropped.[/quote]''Will'' be?How do you know?Not much point buying him if we don''t start him - unless he can''t handle a big occasion with larger crowds - in which case why buy him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites