Shyster 0 Posted February 10, 2015 The ''novice'' has been in charge for four games - his first full game in charge was against Brentford at home - Phelan was here for Bournemouth away and Cardiff - so that''s 7 from 12 - 8 goals for/3 against.But my point harks back to the 15 points, 20 goals for and 9 against, garnered under Adams & Phelan in the 7 League matches leading up to the ''novices'' appointment. So, points wise and by my calculations the ''novice'' needs to acquire 8pts from the next three games just to be on par with Adams & Phelan.I haven''t even touched on the goal difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buh 0 Posted February 10, 2015 What?You are going to have to dig deeper and find a more relevant negative stat to slate the team I''m afraid... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,656 Posted February 10, 2015 Wtf? The ''novice'' has had a perfectly decent start: 4 wins in 6 is good by any measure, and like it or not he was our manager when we beat Bournemouth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shyster 0 Posted February 10, 2015 No, not really negative - In the next three games I''d prefer the ''novice'' to go one point ahead of A & P in the stats stakes, but I must confess and profess my complete bewilderment in the latter leaving the club and if it was necessary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shyster 0 Posted February 10, 2015 Did you even bother to read the initial post, Branston? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shyster 0 Posted February 10, 2015 It was Adams & Phelan''s team that beat Bournemouth and Cardiff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,531 Posted February 10, 2015 I''ve seen some elaborate twisted thinking, but this beats the lot, unless I''m missing some kind of obscure irony here. Why "The novice"?? Disparaging to say the least and not really accurate.To say he did not have direct influence over the Bn''mth result is pushing it too. Phelan''s team, yes, the result directly down to AN''s intervention.Peculiar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lowlyfendweller 0 Posted February 10, 2015 Why not select a bad run of games from the last regime and compare them to and AN results? I really don''t understand your posy it appears a very limited approach to compare managers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,656 Posted February 10, 2015 Of course I read your initial post, which of course is a huge pile of crap: Neil was appointed prior to the Bournemouth game, that is an indisputable fact. After the sending off in that game he directly influenced things far more than Phelan and whatever you say to the contrary, you are quite simply wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrs miggins 0 Posted February 11, 2015 You just have to ignore Shyster until he goes away, unfortunately he doesn''t take too kindly to logic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buh 0 Posted February 11, 2015 Is this OP the babblings of someone devastated we won tonight and is scrambling around for any semblance of negativityI''d say, yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaunieboy77 73 Posted February 11, 2015 Adams, Holt and Robson managed to yield 15pts from the opening 7 games scoring 15 and conceding 5. It didn''t last. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lessingham Canary 99 Posted February 11, 2015 Just got home from Charlton, and read this dribble, the OP has not got a clue, IMO, the first half tonight is best we have played since Spurs at Carrow Road, 2nd half we lost our way at times and gave away 2 silly goals, i don''t think Adams team would have bounced back the way we did to find the winner, fans were great tonight again, real fans that is............ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gainer the Gopher 0 Posted February 11, 2015 It was The Novice''s strategy at Bournemouth that won us that game. A man down, on the road at the first place team and he went Paul Lambert on us by sending in an attacker!?!?And it worked. Discounting that win as belonging to anyone else is disingenuous to say the least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,163 Posted February 11, 2015 How can anybody possibly dissect small groupings of games like that and they try to deduce anything meaningful from them?No mention of the quality of the opposition, home or away fixtures, injuries or any of the other factors that determine the outcome of a football match.I am quite happy with AN, although I had my doubts after the Brentford game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,756 Posted February 11, 2015 From the font of all knowledge. G W D L Win % Hamilton Academical 6 April 2013 9 January 2015 75 42 14 19 56.00 Norwich City 9 January 2015 Present 6 4 1 1 66.67 Total 81 46 15 20 56.79 Not a bad start so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
city4eva 209 Posted February 11, 2015 Its obviousThe OP is a troll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katie Borkins 1 Posted February 11, 2015 Shyster is back in style!Welcome back, you old dog you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,297 Posted February 11, 2015 I think we can give the second half of Bournmouth to Neil!As much as I can''t take to Neil, he''s certainly done well since taking over.....one blip against Brentford.One thing that we still do is give away stupid goals against the so called lesser teams.Novice or not he has built on the success of December and we are in touching distance of the play offs and probably 8 points might be too much to make up for automatic spot.So not sure why the OP has made this point as its not relevant anymore.Bring on Wolves another must win........👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buh 0 Posted February 11, 2015 Hey guys! It''s the "I can''t take to him" guy hahahaha"I can''t take to him"???? This isn''t match.com pal, you don''t have to give him a kiss you know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom 0 Posted February 11, 2015 This comparing him to Paul Lambert is disrespectful to the Messiah until he achieves something he isnt even in the shadow of the Messiah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,531 Posted February 11, 2015 [quote user="Lowestoft Canary"]This comparing him to Paul Lambert is disrespectful to the Messiah until he achieves something he isnt even in the shadow of the Messiah[/quote]Oh, but he has achieved something - he''s Norwich manager. Paul Lambert isn''t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reggie Strayshun 0 Posted February 11, 2015 If it''s the mark of a novice that we managed to eventually grind out an ugly 3 points, yet he in the press conference afterwards, points out that we nearly screwed it up, we would have done so against a better team, and there''s plenty of room for improvement, then fair enough.Let''s have more novices as our manager ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,658 Posted February 11, 2015 [quote user="Indy"]I think we can give the second half of Bournmouth to Neil!As much as I can''t take to Neil[/quote]Can''t take to him? Do you prefer hair? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray 111 Posted February 11, 2015 I often hear/read debates about the AN effect in the Bournemouth game. A game in which he did have an impact, insomuch he authorised the substitutions. However there were two different plans from two different quarters and he ''authorised'' one of those, so in effect he was authorising someone else''s plan, not his own. That said, he obviously saw the benefit in the more audacious move, so well done him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,334 Posted February 11, 2015 Caution wont get us promoted, showing mettle after letting a two goal lead slip may well do, even though we did concede those two goals, i doubt if the thought''we''ll hold what we have '' ever entered ANs mind. Well done again Mr Novice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted February 11, 2015 [quote user="Ray"]I often hear/read debates about the AN effect in the Bournemouth game. A game in which he did have an impact, insomuch he authorised the substitutions. However there were two different plans from two different quarters and he ''authorised'' one of those, so in effect he was authorising someone else''s plan, not his own. That said, he obviously saw the benefit in the more audacious move, so well done him.[/quote]Easy decision for him to make on that occasion though, as had it gone wrong, he had a ready made excuse that he didn''t prepare, or pick the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted February 11, 2015 [quote user="wcorkcanary"]Caution wont get us promoted, showing mettle after letting a two goal lead slip may well do, even though we did concede those two goals, i doubt if the thought''we''ll hold what we have '' ever entered ANs mind. Well done again Mr Novice.[/quote]No, it won''t. But its a very fine line.I wonder what the general mood would have been here today, had we only come away with a point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,531 Posted February 11, 2015 [quote user="morty"][quote user="Ray"]I often hear/read debates about the AN effect in the Bournemouth game. A game in which he did have an impact, insomuch he authorised the substitutions. However there were two different plans from two different quarters and he ''authorised'' one of those, so in effect he was authorising someone else''s plan, not his own. That said, he obviously saw the benefit in the more audacious move, so well done him.[/quote]Easy decision for him to make on that occasion though, as had it gone wrong, he had a ready made excuse that he didn''t prepare, or pick the team.[/quote]Not easy at all. The easy thing would have been to sit in the stands and do nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lessingham Canary 99 Posted February 11, 2015 Morty wrote; No, it won''t. But its a very fine line.I wonder what the general mood would have been here today, had we only come away with a point?Im sure you would agree the managers job is to set the team up, to play the way he wants them to, last couple of games (even when no midfield available) I could see a difference in the way the team was set up and they way they were being asked to play, and it looks much better, and will only improve in time as the players adjust, however once the players cross that white line its down to them, and in the main they did that last night, contrary to general feeling on this site we don''t have the best or strongest squad in the league, we may well be blessed with a decent sized squad that is strong in many area''s, but this is the same squad apart from one addition we had at the start of the season.If the players carry on as they did last night, in the main, and as they did at home to Blackpool and away at Brum then we can mount a serious challenge, There will be great highs ahead as we storm towards the end of the season, and probably a few lows, but give our new manager a dozen games before we question what he is about. If we only had come away with a point last night, I would have blamed the players, and before I get slated, I wont run down individuals, but one or two were poor in the second half, following on from the best 45 minutes from a Norwich side in a long time, poss Spurs at home was last? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites