Have we actually got no money or something?

[Tetteys Jig 851]

It seems obvious that this silly experiment with Adams in charge hasn''t worked. I don''t know what is stopping them appointing a proper manager. There''s people like Pulis sat there twiddling his thumbs and we''re not doing anything about it. Perhaps we''re waiting for Bruce who is on the brink at Hull?

I think if anything, we should have at least waited a year before we ran the Adams experiment. We''ve really thrown away our best chance of going up now unless we act literally now. We can''t afford to drop any points the rest of the month or i''m afraid it''s all over.

[portman_king 0]

[quote user="Jimmy Smith"]It seems obvious that this silly experiment with Adams in charge hasn''t worked. I don''t know what is stopping them appointing a proper manager. There''s people like Pulis sat there twiddling his thumbs and we''re not doing anything about it. Perhaps we''re waiting for Bruce who is on the brink at Hull?

I think if anything, we should have at least waited a year before we ran the Adams experiment. We''ve really thrown away our best chance of going up now unless we act literally now. We can''t afford to drop any points the rest of the month or i''m afraid it''s all over.[/quote]Why even take the risk in the first place, that''s the question I''d be asking? On paper you had a very competitive squad, one of the best budgets in the league and you put it all in the hands of a complete rookie.

[morty 0]

Still, its not like we would be so utterly devoid of class as to go into administration, and rip off local traders, including St Johns ambulance.

[Tetteys Jig 851]

Exactly fella. I''d have been happy enough for us to have taken the risk had we tried and failed this year, you know, cut costs, start a fresh, all well and good. I felt this was a year where we''d be fighting to prove that the relegation was a fluke and we''d make a real go at it. It was not the time for Adams to be manager. Can''t quite believe how the fortunes have turned since 1-0 at Portman Road a couple of months ago!

[portman_king 0]

[quote user="Jimmy Smith"]Exactly fella. I''d have been happy enough for us to have taken the risk had we tried and failed this year, you know, cut costs, start a fresh, all well and good. I felt this was a year where we''d be fighting to prove that the relegation was a fluke and we''d make a real go at it. It was not the time for Adams to be manager. Can''t quite believe how the fortunes have turned since 1-0 at Portman Road a couple of months ago![/quote]Yep, if I was an NCFC fan I''d have wanted a proven ''winner'' at this level even if he was on a one-year rolling deal to give it a big push this year given the financial pressures. Handing over the reins to a complete novice after a relegation is tantamount to business suicide surely?I know, things have certainly changed (for the better obviously!)... but Mick will keep our feet on the ground. You were top a couple of months ago so things could all change again after Christmas.

[Tetteys Jig 851]

I thought giving him the 5 games in the prem was the right decision at the time, last throw of the dice etc. but we needed a proven manager. I still think the board can dig themselves out of this mess if they sort out their errors and get a proper manager in.

If they try get someone like Pulis in and he fails, at least they tried, it''s the dilly dallying that gets me.

As you say, in a months time, it could quite easily all change again! We have the goals and talent in the side, we just need to cut out the basic errors.

[portman_king 0]

[quote user="Jimmy Smith"]I thought giving him the 5 games in the prem was the right decision at the time, last throw of the dice etc. but we needed a proven manager. I still think the board can dig themselves out of this mess if they sort out their errors and get a proper manager in.

If they try get someone like Pulis in and he fails, at least they tried, it''s the dilly dallying that gets me.

As you say, in a months time, it could quite easily all change again! We have the goals and talent in the side, we just need to cut out the basic errors.[/quote]The thing is, if they brought someone in like Pulis, do you think you have the personnel to grind out 1-0 wins each week? I would say you''re lacking leaders all over the field at present, but at least you''ve probably got some money to spend in January to patch things up.

[Reggie Strayshun 0]

Oh dear...all so predictable.Firstly PK comes back with another bad case of stating the bleedin'' obvious.Then Morty does what he does best , and resorts to childish insults that add absolutely zero to the debate.I suppose it all depends on whether people see the Adams appointment as money-based . My take is that it may well have been, but surely we were not short of enough cash to tempt one of the other candidates that we ''scoured Europe'' back in May/June ?

[Jim Smith 2,610]

[quote user="portman_king"][quote user="Jimmy Smith"]I thought giving him the 5 games in the prem was the right decision at the time, last throw of the dice etc. but we needed a proven manager. I still think the board can dig themselves out of this mess if they sort out their errors and get a proper manager in.

If they try get someone like Pulis in and he fails, at least they tried, it''s the dilly dallying that gets me.

As you say, in a months time, it could quite easily all change again! We have the goals and talent in the side, we just need to cut out the basic errors.[/quote]The thing is, if they brought someone in like Pulis, do you think you have the personnel to grind out 1-0 wins each week? I would say you''re lacking leaders all over the field at present, but at least you''ve probably got some money to spend in January to patch things up.[/quote]

I think we do yes but i also don;t think we''d need to grind out 1-0 wins once things got going because this squad, organised and playing with confidence, should be better than having to grind out a result every week at this level. Its certainly what we would need initially though to stop the rot and get things moving in the right direction again.

A new manager would also benefit from Bennett and Wes coming back as well as Bassong and E Bennett coming back from their loans fully fit. In terms of Bassong it would be a clean slate and could see him brought back into the fold.

[morty 0]

Still a bit obsessed I see Reggie[:D]

You carry on cuddling up to your special, new, binboy friend lol.

[havemyhowsonit 0]

Simple. We bought too many ''ok'' strikers and forgot about the defence. Then loaned out probably our best defender in this league

[Reggie Strayshun 0]

[quote user="morty"]Still a bit obsessed I see Reggie[:D]

You carry on cuddling up to your special, new, binboy friend lol.

[/quote]Dream on, Morty.Oh, and grow up too.Just how exactly is saying PK is ''stating the bleedin'' obvious'' cuddling up to my new friend ?It really is amazing how you''ve perfected the art of using a lot of words without actually contributing anything of worth.

[morty 0]

If the ghost of Osama Bin Laden posted on here Reggie, you would somehow contrive a way of using it to whine about me.

You really need to review your life, and try and find something positive in it.

[Tetteys Jig 851]

I think if Pulis came in, the first thing he''d do is see how shockingly organised our defence is and in would come some decent CB come in.

I do think we nearly have the personnel to grind out 1-0 wins, we did it versus you lot! The current group need some help though.

Ryan Bennett has been a captain at the age of 18 and clearly has it in him to organise a defence out. It''s a shame your louts injured him! We''ve missed him more than we thought we would.

[Reggie Strayshun 0]

I would agree that RB is a player who has the undoubted potential to really excel at this level, Jimmy . And that a lot of the players not currently in the team could make a positive contribution.In fairness, I do not think that you are using their absence as an excuse for our current plight, but there is a temptation to do just that. It happened last season, when various injured players were touted as being the reason why we struggled, when we all knew that the malaise was much more deep seated than that. Sometimes players can mythically become better players when they are injured than when they are actually in the team.!I''m not sure whether we actually need to spend a huge sum of money in the Jan window . The squad is collectively good enough to challenge at this level. Where the money needs to spent is, at whatever price, to get a backroom staff who have experience and a good track record of operating successfully at Champ level.

[Highland Canary 78]

I think the answer is ''no''. We have to trade down from a £100m business to a £30m business over three years. Next season is the last year of material parachute payments so we will need to offload the senior pros over the next couple of windows. The alternate strategy of appointing an experienced manager, seeking promotion this season, and hanging onto the likes of Redmond beyond January, seems an unlikely proposition at this point.

[Reggie Strayshun 0]

What you describe , HC, is unquestionably an economic reality in the medium term if we don''t get back to the PL quickly.But I feel we''d be selling ourselves short if we just accepted that as a fait accompli. At the start of the season we were all saying that this is our best chance to get back to the top flight, which, at the risk of going over old ground makes the decision to hire Adams all the more baffling.We have the cash to give it a really good go NOW, but I''d accept that what you describe could well be the fact of life if we fail.

[Highland Canary 78]

Reggie - unfortunately, I am as baffled as you as to how we managed to appoint a totally inexperienced manager year one following relegation from the PL into a league as challenging as that of the Championship.