simmo_2 6 Posted December 3, 2014 It seems as though Paddy Davitt and the NCFC press office have been working very close together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary001 0 Posted December 3, 2014 Yep you could tell that from Mondays web chat ..Pink Un reporters = club mouthpiece . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buh 0 Posted December 3, 2014 Get your tinfoil hats back on. Nutters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,554 Posted December 3, 2014 [quote user="simmo_2"]It seems as though Paddy Davitt and the NCFC press office have been working very close together.[/quote]Do you really think the NCFC press office is going to be happy with the following comments? I very much doubt it:The reaction that greeted the final whistle against the Royals and the bitter aftermath make one thing certain. We have now embarked on the end game. If Norwich’s board did not know before they do now. The silent, reasonable, considered majority have had enough and they want change. Whether that is Adams, whether that is major surgery to the playing squad, whether that is just a semblance of a common sense of purpose on the pitch and 11 players all buying into the manager’s philosophy. You can measure this process in games or points from here, but Adams’ removal from frontline duty will not cure all the ills.Norwich’s manager is a hugely likeable, honest individual. The passion to restore his club to the Premier League burns intensely. Those who castigate him for a lack of experience need only look at the magnificent job Mark Warburton has engineered at Brentford after succeeding Uwe Rosler. Warburton swapped a high-flying career in the City to learn his trade in football’s academy system before guiding the Bees out of League One and into the Championship promotion mix.Likewise, experience made little difference to Felix Magath’s ill-fated reign at Fulham. Nor is this about Adams’ desire to attack and entertain with a commitment to possession football. Look again at the top end of the table and you see Eddie Howe’s Bournemouth, who adhere to the same mantra, while the uncomplicated style of Mick McCarthy’s Ipswich proves equally durable.The problems run deeper than Adams’ exit, or lack of experience, or playing style. The rump of a squad who endured Premier League relegation look constricted by that lingering stench of defeatism. The prolonged downward spiral under Chris Hughton triggered a schism between supporters and those who shape the direction of their football club and City’s early season response to adversity merely papered over the cracks, They are visible again.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,554 Posted December 3, 2014 [quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="simmo_2"]It seems as though Paddy Davitt and the NCFC press office have been working very close together.[/quote]Do you really think the NCFC press office is going to be happy with the following comments? I very much doubt it:The reaction that greeted the final whistle against the Royals and the bitter aftermath make one thing certain. We have now embarked on the end game. If Norwich’s board did not know before they do now. The silent, reasonable, considered majority have had enough and they want change. Whether that is Adams, whether that is major surgery to the playing squad, whether that is just a semblance of a common sense of purpose on the pitch and 11 players all buying into the manager’s philosophy. You can measure this process in games or points from here, but Adams’ removal from frontline duty will not cure all the ills.Norwich’s manager is a hugely likeable, honest individual. The passion to restore his club to the Premier League burns intensely. Those who castigate him for a lack of experience need only look at the magnificent job Mark Warburton has engineered at Brentford after succeeding Uwe Rosler. Warburton swapped a high-flying career in the City to learn his trade in football’s academy system before guiding the Bees out of League One and into the Championship promotion mix.Likewise, experience made little difference to Felix Magath’s ill-fated reign at Fulham. Nor is this about Adams’ desire to attack and entertain with a commitment to possession football. Look again at the top end of the table and you see Eddie Howe’s Bournemouth, who adhere to the same mantra, while the uncomplicated style of Mick McCarthy’s Ipswich proves equally durable.The problems run deeper than Adams’ exit, or lack of experience, or playing style. The rump of a squad who endured Premier League relegation look constricted by that lingering stench of defeatism. The prolonged downward spiral under Chris Hughton triggered a schism between supporters and those who shape the direction of their football club and City’s early season response to adversity merely papered over the cracks, They are visible again..[/quote]This other highly critical paragraph got left off:Promotion is the remit but there is a bigger goal right now; to address a growing disconnect between those who follow and those who lead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wiz 0 Posted December 3, 2014 Always suspected that Archant bowed to their masters at Carrow Road.Now we know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TCCANARY 263 Posted December 3, 2014 [quote user="Robert Poole"]Always suspected that Archant bowed to their masters at Carrow Road.Now we know. [/quote] That they don''t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R Mellie 0 Posted December 3, 2014 [quote user="TCCANARY"][quote user="Robert Poole"] Always suspected that Archant bowed to their masters at Carrow Road.Now we know. [/quote] That they don''t. [/quote] Lol, back in your box Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,712 Posted December 3, 2014 Thanks Purple for a bit of sanity. It would be good if others read articles properly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,721 Posted December 3, 2014 Obviously people have forgotten about Michael Bailey being banned from the press room for not keeping to the party line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,531 Posted December 3, 2014 "The problems run deeper than Adams’ exit, or lack of experience, or playing style. The rump of a squad who endured Premier League relegation look constricted by that lingering stench of defeatism. The prolonged downward spiral under Chris Hughton triggered a schism between supporters and those who shape the direction of their football club and City’s early season response to adversity merely papered over the cracks, They are visible again.." This is a telling paragraph. It seems as if we have had a schism ever since I can remember, not just under Hughton. There are Norwich fans that have long accused the club of a lack of ambition - and every little setback is greeted almost with glee as something else they can go on about. So to talk about a prolonged downward spiral is not just about Hughton - it has been there since 1995 if not before. Even under Lambert there were signs that things were nit going to last - the cup game with Leicester showed how much anger could be generated, even when things were going well in the league. We were lucky. I am not a believer in fate, but it is hard not to see the 1-7 as a fateful day, in terms of the opposition and the stage we were at as a club. That was a godsend for McNally - he had to act - and he acted right. Apart from that, the simmering schism has always been there almost with whoever has been in charge at the club at board level. We all enjoyed the wins earlier in the season, but there was a sense there that it couldn''t last - the defensive issues, Johnson spraying accurate passes left right and centre - it all had a slightly false feel to it - to me anyway. So Davitt is right and we had a few weeks off from the wailing and gnashing of teeth. But it is back - and back with a vengeance. The shackles are well and truly off. If we don''t improve there could be a revolution - fans are fed up enough after the last two seasons to put up with what is happening at the moment for much longer. Its quite a significant time in the history of our club imo - improve and the wolves will slink away, don''t improve and they will be baying for the heirachy to answer to why it is continuing to go wrong time after time, when finances and playing squad are strong. It feels at the moment as if everything is being wasted. It will take a lot for the club to turn it round - it may be too much to ask of Phelan to turn it round on his own - so its going to be a tricky time for everyone. Boy do we need a win on Saturday......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,554 Posted December 3, 2014 [quote user="Herman "]Thanks Purple for a bit of sanity. It would be good if others read articles properly.[/quote]It is not just that piece by Davitt (thankfully free of some of his usual supposedly literary flourishes) which is fairly savage, but recent headlines, use of pictures (such as the one seeming to show a disconnect between Adams and Phelan) and waspish comments from other Archant journalists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,712 Posted December 3, 2014 It''s as if something hasn''t got ''Adams Out'' in the first paragraph then it''s obviously club propaganda. We know they have to be careful but some are pushing it as far as possible. Good on them.I must say though that i was a bit perturbed to see Gunn''s mug on the front page first thing this morning. Maybe because i hadn''t woken up properly, but it felt as if someone at Archant was rubbing salt in the wound. Or i am just paranoid[:D] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOO 0 Posted December 3, 2014 LDC. NWe all enjoyed the wins earlier in the season, but there was a sense there that it couldn''t last - the defensive issues, Johnson spraying accurate passes left right and centre - it all had a slightly false feel to it - to me anyway. So Davitt is right and we had a few weeks off from the wailing and gnashing of teeth. But it is back - and back with a vengeance. The shackles are well and truly off. If we don''t improve there could be a revolution - fans are fed up enough after the last two seasons to put up with what is happening at the moment for much longer. Its quite a significant time in the history of our club imo - improve and the wolves will slink away, don''t improve and they will be baying for the heirachy to answer to why it is continuing to go wrong time after time, when finances and playing squad are strong. It feels at the moment as if everything is being wasted. It will take a lot for the club to turn it round - it may be too much to ask of Phelan to turn it round on his own - so its going to be a tricky time for everyone. Boy do we need a win on Saturday.........Melodramatic or what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Satoshi Nakamoto 0 Posted December 3, 2014 What Purple said Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Journalist Foghorn 0 Posted December 3, 2014 [quote user="PurpleCanary"]Nor is this about Adams’ desire to attack and entertain with a commitment to possession football. Look again at the top end of the table and you see Eddie Howe’s Bournemouth, who adhere to the same mantra.[/quote]I am sorry but these is total utter twaddle.... You can''t play attacking possession football while selecting a midfield of hackers. Even Howson''s passing could best be described as ponderous. When all your midfielders need at least a couple of touches of the ball before crafting a crab-like pass, attacks are always going to be slow, laboured and predictable.Do people at the club really think playing Howson, Tettey and Johnson at the same time is going to create an effective attacking side?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,531 Posted December 3, 2014 [quote user="Vanwink"]LDC. NWe all enjoyed the wins earlier in the season, but there was a sense there that it couldn''t last - the defensive issues, Johnson spraying accurate passes left right and centre - it all had a slightly false feel to it - to me anyway. So Davitt is right and we had a few weeks off from the wailing and gnashing of teeth. But it is back - and back with a vengeance. The shackles are well and truly off. If we don''t improve there could be a revolution - fans are fed up enough after the last two seasons to put up with what is happening at the moment for much longer. Its quite a significant time in the history of our club imo - improve and the wolves will slink away, don''t improve and they will be baying for the heirachy to answer to why it is continuing to go wrong time after time, when finances and playing squad are strong. It feels at the moment as if everything is being wasted. It will take a lot for the club to turn it round - it may be too much to ask of Phelan to turn it round on his own - so its going to be a tricky time for everyone. Boy do we need a win on Saturday.........Melodramatic or what?[/quote]Maybe. But if it has been difficult for the last two seasons, this season threatens to be a disaster in comparison - if we don''t start picking up results soon. The patience of fans is running out and another defeat at Wigan followed by a poor result against Huddersfield would just about seem rock bottom. That is why we need a result so badly against Wigan, to at least give us a boost for the Huddersfield game. Football is a funny game - we could suddenly start to do better, but to be honest, it would be a shock if we do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk Mustard 94 Posted December 3, 2014 [quote user="lake district canary"][quote user="Vanwink"]LDC. NWe all enjoyed the wins earlier in the season, but there was a sense there that it couldn''t last - the defensive issues, Johnson spraying accurate passes left right and centre - it all had a slightly false feel to it - to me anyway. So Davitt is right and we had a few weeks off from the wailing and gnashing of teeth. But it is back - and back with a vengeance. The shackles are well and truly off. If we don''t improve there could be a revolution - fans are fed up enough after the last two seasons to put up with what is happening at the moment for much longer. Its quite a significant time in the history of our club imo - improve and the wolves will slink away, don''t improve and they will be baying for the heirachy to answer to why it is continuing to go wrong time after time, when finances and playing squad are strong. It feels at the moment as if everything is being wasted. It will take a lot for the club to turn it round - it may be too much to ask of Phelan to turn it round on his own - so its going to be a tricky time for everyone. Boy do we need a win on Saturday......... Melodramatic or what?[/quote]Maybe. But if it has been difficult for the last two seasons, this season threatens to be a disaster in comparison - if we don''t start picking up results soon. The patience of fans is running out and another defeat at Wigan followed by a poor result against Huddersfield would just about seem rock bottom. That is why we need a result so badly against Wigan, to at least give us a boost for the Huddersfield game. Football is a funny game - we could suddenly start to do better, but to be honest, it would be a shock if we do. [/quote]Mike Phelan is used to winning games in the North West of England. Perhaps that might help us at Wigan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOO 0 Posted December 4, 2014 Has anyone done an analysis of our geographical performance Norflok? A usefull task for somebody, especially if they can build the Phelan factor into a predictive locality plan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,314 Posted December 4, 2014 Everything I see, hear and read just reinforces how paramount it is that we get Adams out before the transfer window. Confidence and spirit comes largely from believing in what you are doing, belief in how you are set up and winning games. Breaking up the squad in order to retain Adams would be a huge mistake and the start of a long road.This squad is good. These players are good. They are just being badly mismanaged. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites