3 more games and he's out!.

[Putney Canary 0]

Joe Royal IS a good manager, but no better than Worthy. At least Worthy''s team held on to the top spot and got promoted, and didn''t fall away disasterously.

Gradi is one of the top managers for sure, but why would he leave Crewe? He specialises in bringing on young talent, and so is well suited to Crewe, and is well rewarded for his excellent work.

Whilst the scores have all been 1-1, the performances are getting better game on game, and with Deano and Leon firing on all cylinders we would have beaten Crewe and Palace. Our first choice 11 has hardly played yet, certainly not in pre-season, and its affected our start to the season. The results will come, its way too early in the season to contemplate a change of manager, especially one who has proven that he CAN get us out of this division.

[Herb 0]

Nice post POA, sums up my thoughts entirely.

[king of latvia 0]

[quote]Listen here King. These boards are not just about saying nice things about City(and I have in the past) or you get banned. Its about warts and all. And there are a lot of warts at the moment, or do...[/quote]

no wiz i dont want to stop free speech i want to hear fans talking constructive and get behind the team.wether we lose win or draw.

come on you yellows

[still holding out for new heroes 0]

Royle....ha ha ha...I would love a manager who hasn''t got the backbone to stand up just once to his chairman and say please stop selling all my strikers

and as for signing Varney...wasnt he in ''on the buses''

[Herb 0]

Joe Royale is a clown and not even good enough to manage the scum (Burley acheived more with less resources imo)
Anyone who thinks hes in the same league as Worthy needs their head looking at.

[Herb 0]

[quote]Oh I forgot to add, lets move heaven and earth and get Dario Gradi in place of NW. I think he''d jump at the chance, and I''m sure Ashton wouldn''t object. Unlike the 4 or 5 players Worthless signed, wh...[/quote]

You''re clearly having a laugh Wiz. Why the hell would Gradi want to come here? Do you not think hes been offered jobs at clubs bigger than this before?
The reason Gradi and Crewe are seemingly almost one and the same is because he loves the challenge and Crewe would be mad to lose a man who has brought on some of the country''s best talents and had Crewe punching above their weight for over a decade. They''re made for each other. Long may it continue, I''ve got a lot of respect for both club and manager.

Yet you''d get rid of the best manager Norwich has had in years (costing us millions I would guess) and rob Crewe of their messiah.
Nice one.

[gary waddison 0]

Utter, utter rubbish. Your drivel deserves no better response.

[sheded 0]

[quote]I think Worthy has done a great job for the club- nearly all of his signings have been successful as well as taking us to the prem. BUT I think he is finally losing it- when was the last time he came ...[/quote]

OMG !  that thought has been  with me for some time ....  Dario Gradi  ...  why is he not  managing a prem club ?   there`s obviously an old boys network  in this management caper !!  Gradi  , if there was any justice [ and there aint ]  should be   managing Chelsea et al   .....

I`m not into bashing Worthy ...  there`s been much talk of where the buck stops ? and , to my way of thinking ,  the buck stops with the players !!!!   its THEY who  have to earn  the silly money they get

[Danny Gwww.rudeboyz.co.uk 0]

Why do you all even bother replying to this stupid post ? 1st wizard is always negative and boring with all of his posts . My guess he is a scummer in disguise !!!

[0ridgemanddMMyyyy0Falseen-USTrue 0]

The reason Huckerby was closed down so quickly is because our play is so predictable either a quick throw out to Huckerby to chase down the wing or the high ball to Ashton no wonder any manager with an ounce of tactical ability can see through our tactics. Worthington now suggests Green was at fault for throwing the ball out to Huckerby and wants his players to think more, well unfortunately we all know what Worthington is like if they talk out of turn they are dropped if they dont play his way they are dropped. Lets have new coaching staff in with new ideas now.  

[First Wizard 0]

[quote]You''re clearly having a laugh Wiz. Why the hell would Gradi want to come here? Do you not think hes been offered jobs at clubs bigger than this before? The reason Gradi and Crewe are seemingly almost ...[/quote]

I''ve calmed down now Herb, frustrations about results does that to me sometimes, as you should know, and I''ve also made my apologise to Nigel on another thread, but will do it again here if you like. 

I apologise unreservedly to Nigel Worthington for my recent comments about his ability, okay?.

And I will happily judge Worthy at Christmas now okay?.

And you''re quite correct, I was clearly having a laugh about Royal & Gradi!.

[First Wizard 0]

[quote]You''re clearly having a laugh Wiz. Why the hell would Gradi want to come here? Do you not think hes been offered jobs at clubs bigger than this before? The reason Gradi and Crewe are seemingly almost ...[/quote]

I''ve calmed down now Herb, frustrations about results does that to me sometimes, as you should know, and I''ve also made my apologise to Nigel on another thread, but will do it again here if you like. 

I apologise unreservedly to Nigel Worthington for my recent comments about his ability, okay?.

And I will happily judge Worthy at Christmas now okay?.

And you''re quite correct, I was clearly having a laugh about Royal & Gradi!.

[Gamera 0]

Worthy took us up with a worse team, watching recently all of our desicions and tactic solutions displayed on here have been used by him. Bringing in players, we wanted shackell instead of Doherty, etc. So whats the guy to do? Motivation, tactics, formation, thats down to worthy. But if we had a differnet manager would those same players play better? Granted it doesnt look great so far, but after what he''s done for us give the guy a break.

[TheMarshmallowMan 0]

Interesting how Wiz berates the club for a lack of Premiership-experienced signings and then goes and suggests we ditch our club for a Manager who has no Premiership experience.

[BedsCanary 0]

God, is the Worthy bashing still going on?

Honestly, you''d think you lot support ManUre or something

[BedsCanary 0]

I wonder if they''re calling for Rednaps head on the Southampton message boards, or if Ian Dowie has 3 more games to prove himself?

Ridiculous thread by ridiculous people who don''t attend Carrow Road, can''t see past the most recent game and have no grasp of any kind of ''big picture''. Pathetic.

[DumbleDelia is Magic 0]

Didn''t the scum do the same with Burley though?  He got them up, sent them down and didn''t have the greatest of starts.  Then they got rid of him.  I think, in hindsight, they regret that decision. 

Give Worthy time

[Plastic Scouser 0]

Good point Shed - which goes back to the question - what''s happening on the training ground?

[clacton_canary1 0]

"well unfortunately we all know what Worthington is like if they talk out of turn they are dropped if they dont play his way they are dropped."

Umm excuse me, but isn''t this a good thing? But ok, lets go by your logic for a little while here, dropping players because they talk out of turn, or don''t play the way a manager wants them to is a bad thing in your opinion, and shows signs of a bad manager......

Well Alex Ferguson, getting rid of that Jaap Stam, Lee Sharp and David Beckham, for talking out of turn or not playing the way Fergie likes, yeah i can see your logic, Fergie is a rubbish manager, never won a thing has he....

Bobby Robson, Dropping Dyer when he refused to play left midd for Newcastle a few seasons ago, yeah his an awful manager aswell

.....

[First Wizard 0]

[quote]I wonder if they''re calling for Rednaps head on the Southampton message boards, or if Ian Dowie has 3 more games to prove himself? Ridiculous thread by ridiculous people who don''t attend Carrow Road,...[/quote]

I wondered how long it would be before a poster like Beds Canary, used the the arguement of ''he doesn''t go Carrow Road''!.

Well listen pal, had it not been for unforseen circumstances, I would have been there this season, and do you now also discount my previous attendences including the dark days too?.

Holier than thou posters like you make me sick, sorry to be blunt, but it does.

I said in a thread only a few short weeks ago, that your type of attitude would happen on here, congraulations on proving me right!.

[CambridgeCanary 0]

What a kerfuffle!!!

To misquote the old adage, Nigel Worthington is the worse manager in the entire league........apart from at least 75% of the others.

Sure he makes mistakes, he was possibly out of his depth last season but he has brought an enormous amount to City.  Not just some class players as well as some not so class players (and while we are on the subject of bad buys...which Carrow Road hero regularly appears in polls as the worse buy Chelsea ever made?  Robert Fleck.  Performance at one club is no guarantee of success at another.  If you are not convinced then I''ll throw in Fashanu at Forest) but dignity, lack of scandal and all the other things that help make our family club the one we love.  He is as much a part of that as Delia.

So, we can''t just sack him and expect things to get better.

BUT those who say it''s only three games and will get better are ignoring the ringing truth which, however overstated by the Wiz, is there.  Things are wrong on the field.  Coaching is failing.  After the home games against Fulham and Blackburn we all knew that the team had a pathological inability to close games down.  This was not addressed and even the late thrillers against Charlton and Birmingham were nailbiters because of this failing.  As for Newcastle.....why did we need a 94th minute winner?  Why else did we not win an away game all season?

The defending too deep and inviting teams to attack is still there.  We still look ridiculously vulnerable to set plays especially corners.

Getting rid of Worthy does not resolve there issues which are clear to even the most casual Canary.  These boards are full of worried posts about one or more of these issues.

The keep Worthy and every thing will turn out fine brigade are no closer.  There are coaching issues that must be resolved.  Why have these faults not been sorted out on the training field?  I don''t know whether we need new coaches, extra coaches or a different input from the existing coaches.

What I do know is Wiz is right to be worried.  The happy Worthy brigade are right to say leave him alone.  The problems and the answers IMVHO lie elsewhere.  We may well make promotion as we are because we have some really classy players but unless these fundamental flaws in the team''s play are sorted, another bleak season in the Prem awaits.

[nobbyg 0]

Sorry I thought we were talking about Huckerby - we have scored 3 goals and he has been directly involved in any of them.  Marney, Drury and Hughes all had the key passes.

Surely if he doesn''t score or create something in the next three games he should be replaced by Joe Royle.

 

Unless Worthington is in remote control charge of Hughes when he passes to the opposition or Leon when he hits the bar from two yards then leave him alone.

Everybody agrees we have a better squad than last year and if it wasn''t for the Southampton winner or the Johnson dive or the Fulham game we would still be up and everyone would say what a great job he did.  It is not as if we set a record low number of points last season.

43 games to go - 2 points a game plus the 3 we have equals 89 and we probably finish 2nd.

[sheded 0]

As you say , Plastic , what ARE they doing on the training ground ?    I can`t get to see them due to work committments  etc [ wife can`t stand football  ]     does any of you  get to see the training sessions ? tell us what they get up to !  

Judging on the performance [ or lack of it ] from our strikers  , I would say that shooting practice   must be  almost non existant !!

[BedsCanary 0]

[quote]I wondered how long it would be before a poster like Beds Canary , used the the arguement of ''he doesn''t go Carrow Road''!. Well listen pal, had it not been for unforseen circumstances, I would hav...[/quote]

I''m not a ''Holier than thou'' supporter Wiz, your posts just annoy the hell out of me.

The simple truth is that the people who follow Norwich City FC home and away are the people best placed to comment on what goes on. The truth may hurt but it is Fact.

However, I respect any exile/fan such as yourself who can''t make the games for genuine reasons but still follow the club with a passion that puts most other fans to shame.

What I don''t respect is someone suggesting that a manager who has turned NCFC around in a few short years and has brought in some of the most exciting players in the club''s history be sacked after just three games.

It''s fickle. You are a fickle supporter, not because you don''t go to Carrow Road but because that''s the way you are.

[First Wizard 0]

[quote]I''m not a ''Holier than thou'' supporter Wiz, your posts just annoy the hell out of me. The simple truth is that the people who follow Norwich City FC home and away are the people best placed to commen...[/quote]

And if you had read my posts properly Beds, you would have noticed I have already apologised to NW on two seperate occassions for those remarks!.

Remarks which were born of fustration.

Are you so bloody perfect that you''ve never spoken in haste, or made mistakes?.

At least I don''t hide away, I do apologise, and I''m one of the few on here who does, I might add!.

[Evil Monkey 52]

[quote]As you say , Plastic , what ARE they doing on the training ground ? I can`t get to see them due to work committments etc [ wife can`t stand football ] does any of you get to see the traini...[/quote]

My mate and I are making the most of our time off and are heading down to Colney tomorrow to check it out, so we''ll let you know!

For more insightful thoughts, though, see the "where does the buck stop" thread...

[Plastic Scouser 0]

Monkey - put it on here as a separate thread - take notes and be very detailed....!!!

 

Thanks!