Bill 1,788 Posted September 17, 2014 after seven games we would achieve (over the season)105 points if we continued the same average per game, and98.5 goals ... etc so in a season for the optimistsI am launching a ton up mini leaguemini, as it is only us and will track how well we are faring toward those targetsthe average needed each game is 2.17 points and 2.17 goals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Stump 1 Posted September 17, 2014 Well it''s a change from the relegation mini league.Have you run it past LDC? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
priceyrice 123 Posted September 17, 2014 Does anyone know what''s the average points target for automatic promotion is in the championship? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted September 17, 2014 of no use last season 2nd place was 93 pointsthe season before was 79 pointsand who wants second place ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barclay seats 4849 the 3rd 0 Posted September 17, 2014 [quote user="priceyrice"]Does anyone know what''s the average points target for automatic promotion is in the championship?[/quote]It is presumed that 2 points per game will gain auto promotion , some years it is less ,,, but that is the total needed to guarantee it . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
priceyrice 123 Posted September 17, 2014 Cheers. I am looking to be champions as well but it''s nice to know a general average. From how i remember the championship it seems to have a huge range of total points needed for winning the league, as City1st points out. Didn''t Newcastle win it under Hughton with close to 100 points?With the size and quality of our squad and a manager who looks to win every game i can see us staying above an avg of 2 points a game all season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barclay seats 4849 the 3rd 0 Posted September 17, 2014 I think that is the thoughts of quite a few of us now Pricey ,Isn''t bit funny how quick we can all become so positive ?We have our team back and the good feelings when waiting for the next game OTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bury Green 0 Posted September 17, 2014 Reading got to 106 points and I think hold the record, in Neyul we trust.I seem to recall the Ancient History Society down the A140 coming out with 100 points and 100 goals about twelve years ago,, didn''t quite work out for them from memory.I wonder what happened to the banner? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
militantcanary 0 Posted September 17, 2014 I take it this post is a little tongue in check..QPR were top this time last year and were v lucky to go upWe have played all of 7 games after all, and anything can happen in Football.The bookies have us at 4-1 to win the league which is quite long but a recognition that to hold off the whole league will take some doing.If we are top on February 1 and have done good transfer business in the window then we can start to dream not mid September! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted September 17, 2014 "The bookies have us at 4-1 to win the league which is quite long but a recognition that to hold off the whole league will take some doing."eh ?that''s a reflection of the money bet - nothing to do with what the bookies thinkmeanwhile have a plough through thiswhich will give you some idea as it is all the league positions for the past few decades Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
priceyrice 123 Posted September 17, 2014 [quote user="City1st"]"The bookies have us at 4-1 to win the league which is quite long but a recognition that to hold off the whole league will take some doing."eh ?that''s a reflection of the money bet - nothing to do with what the bookies thinkmeanwhile have a plough through thiswhich will give you some idea as it is all the league positions for the past few decades[/quote]Cheers for the link, interesting viewing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted September 17, 2014 it''s an excellent source Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceTharu 0 Posted September 17, 2014 man your only jinxing us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted September 17, 2014 it is you''reas in you areperhaps you are from suffolk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,349 Posted September 17, 2014 [quote user="City1st"]it''s an excellent source[/quote]It looks like 85 or 86 points is more than enough in the vast majority of seasons.16 points on the board.39 games left 20 more wins, 10 draws and we can still afford to lose another 9 games.Looks do-able to me.[:)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted September 17, 2014 [quote user="ricardo"][quote user="City1st"]it''s an excellent source[/quote]It looks like 85 or 86 points is more than enough in the vast majority of seasons.16 points on the board.39 games left 20 more wins, 10 draws and we can still afford to lose another 9 games.Looks do-able to me.[:)][/quote]As in previous seasons, do you have a points total in mind? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted September 17, 2014 [quote user="City1st"]and who wants second place ? [/quote] statistically the team thats finished 2nd has gone on to do BETTER in the premiership and stay longer... titles are for wimps... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted September 17, 2014 ahem[quote user="jas the barclay king"]theres being 2nd best and theres being champions... if you accept second best then you will never be anything in life.. [/quote] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lord montyjones 0 Posted September 18, 2014 Football betting is mainly an anticipation of where the money will go and based on form.Take a look at a football coupon City 1st. the odds will not change from when printed to the the actual kick off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted September 18, 2014 "the odds will not change from when printed to the the actual kick off"that often is the case with the printed word"Football betting is mainly an anticipation of where the money will go and based on form."only when you are talking about fixed odds, however the quote about City being 4-1 is not about fixed odds, that is about the money bet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lord montyjones 0 Posted September 18, 2014 Based mainly on a decent 3.0 away win and not the odd hundred here and there. If Norich get turned over by Brum they will be out to around 5s and in to 7/2 for a decent win. Ante post betting is nothing like a horse race where your ideas are more correct Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceTharu 0 Posted September 18, 2014 no am from iceland Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceTharu 0 Posted September 18, 2014 [quote user="City1st"]it is you''reas in you areperhaps you are from suffolk[/quote] Reply to an Existing MessageThe message you are replying to: Re: 100 points, 100 goalspink''un » Have Your Say » Main Discussion... » Re: 100 points, 100 goalsCity1st wrote the following post at 17/09/2014 10:35 PM:it is you''reas in you areperhaps you are from suffolkam from iceland men cut me some slack thanks for the tip though , cheer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceTharu 0 Posted September 18, 2014 [quote user="City1st"]it is you''reas in you areperhaps you are from suffolk[/quote] Reply to an Existing MessageThe message you are replying to: Re: 100 points, 100 goalspink''un » Have Your Say » Main Discussion... » Re: 100 points, 100 goalsCity1st wrote the following post at 17/09/2014 10:35 PM:it is you''reas in you areperhaps you are from suffolkam from iceland men cut me some slack thanks for the tip though , cheer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted September 18, 2014 "men cut me some slack"I should imagine they have alreadygiven as it sounds like you are the ''receiver'' in those type of encounters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fleckys Flip-Flop 0 Posted September 18, 2014 It''s not entirely a reflection on the money bet City 1st. The whole difficulty in odds setting is attempting to balance the potential risk and reward. So, if someone came in now and lay £1m on, say Rotherham, you wouldn''t find their odds change very much, even though they would have the most money on them. It would be really silly to suddenly drop Rotherham in to evens, because you still want people to back them. Similarly, if we now lost our next 5 games in a row, but no money was taken on the market at all, then our odds would drift hugely. If it was purely on the amount of money bet then it would stay the same. It''s a delicate balance of which money bet is just one factor. It''s not a particularly lucrative market and most money is placed before the season starts. So the odds then tend to change with performances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thorny 0 Posted September 18, 2014 [quote user="Bury Green"]Reading got to 106 points and I think hold the record, in Neyul we trust.I seem to recall the Ancient History Society down the A140 coming out with 100 points and 100 goals about twelve years ago,, didn''t quite work out for them from memory.I wonder what happened to the banner?[/quote] Didn''t they go up via the play offs? Past high points as follows: http://www.fl125.co.uk/records/league-points Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bury Green 0 Posted September 18, 2014 No no, I was referring to George Burley''s quotes after they were relegated again and possibly Sheepshanks.I seem to recall them getting all revved up about storming the league and being promoted by Christmas, thirteen seasons later or whatever it is they''re still waiting.Think they said the same after Evans bought them and appointed good old Roy, truly they''re the gift that just keeps in giving Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted September 18, 2014 [quote user="City1st"]ahem[quote user="jas the barclay king"]theres being 2nd best and theres being champions... if you accept second best then you will never be anything in life.. [/quote][/quote] curses... foiled again!!! The 2nd statement is true... and that is what we should aim for... the first one is merely an observation of stats.. we should of course aim for the title, and if it is beyond us despite our best efforts then promotion must be secured. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Number 9 0 Posted September 18, 2014 I notice that Brum skin of teeth survived with 44 points last season, what chance Fulham getting another 43? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites