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Please do not give Surman a contract extension

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Please do not give Surman a contract extension as he is too lightweight for a midfield player and weak re. his defensive work. Instead please sell him to someone like Bournemouth and get us either a quality left midfield player or a quality left back (and play Olsson in midfield).

 

 

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Surman is a gifted footballer but, like, Wes his defensive side is lacking. I only think you can accommodate one or the other, unless you''re cruising in a game.

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Andrew Surman is not a bad player but he was never a regular under Lambert and was not rated by Hughton.

Suddenly, he seems to be our new manager''s ''flavour of the month,'' brought back into the fold, used extensively pre-season and in the starting line-up for Wolves where many considered his pairing with Hoolahan in midfield was powder puff. It was like a trip into season''s past and hardly encouraging or convincing.

He had a successful season at Bournemouth, but his weaknesses won''t have gone away because of his spell on the South Coast.

Apparently, they were willing to pay about £1m for him and I feel we missed a trick as I wouldn''t want him to be anything more than a bit part player at Carrow Road.

Quite frankly, if Adams sees our future as a combination of both him and Wes in midfield, then our future ''aint so bright after all. Hoolahan is enough in the repatriation stakes, and then only for when is appropriate, IMO.

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Never a regular under Lambert?!!!

Sorry didn''t read any further as that is so untrue it''s a joke!

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Why sell a decent squad player to Bournemouth? Perhaps the issue is having both Hoolahan and Surman in the same starting eleven? But at least Surman hasnt called our great club a "sh1tty little club" or similar!

Why play Olsson in midfield? He is a left back, who is capable of charging up the wing occasionally, that doesnt make him a midfield player or a winger......

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[quote user="chicken"]Never a regular under Lambert?!!!

Sorry didn''t read any further as that is so untrue it''s a joke![/quote]

Perhaps you should consult his stats. before having your little laugh.

Andrew Surman played just 51 games in three years at City before he was loaned to Bournemouth. He had injury problems at times, but although Lambert used him in three of the first four games on our return to the Premiership he then dropped him and never considered him a regular after that.

I maintain that the return of the admirable, but not particularly effective Andrew Surman is a retrograde step.

It is Championship thinking. We are a Championship team now, of course, and if last Sunday''s display is anything to go by Championship thinking will be bestowed upon us for some time.

That doesn''t mean we have to actively go out and embrace it.

Oh how quickly the mighty are falling.

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On his day Surman is a fantastic player. Can pick a pass, read a game, good finisher etc. We need the Surman of 2010/11 back (and by all accounts the player who Bournemouth fans raved about last season).

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Are people seriously discussing whether surman is a good player to have in the championship? ...welcome to the pinkun ladies and gentlemen

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He played 27 games under Lambert Broadstairs, and as already mentioned using him and Hoolahan in the same midfield does severely hit a teams defensive abilities, which even Lambert took into consideration. And also Surman must have been injured at some point during that season so 27 appearances is a fair amount. And he was quality in a number of PL games.

And mentioning he wasn''t favoured by Hughton doesn''t really hold much water.

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McNally has said that any players who we sell will be replaced by "better."

Positive thinking, IMO, if rather ambitious.

At this moment in time it looks likely that we will enter the derby game in two weeks time minus Snodgrass and Fer from last season, but with Surman and O'' Neil added.

Championship thinking, if rather depressing.

Not so much welcome to the Pink''un as welcome to the Championship.

Clearly more readily accepted by some but, nevertheless, how the mighty are (rapidly) fallen.

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McNally was obviously just trying to put a positive spin on it. There was no way we''d be able to replace players like Snoddy and Fer (if he goes) with better. Despite last season they are both clearly good enough for the PL. As was Bassong at one point. But the point is people taking comments from McNally, Adams or following my point in another thread any people in these positions at any club and then using them to beat the club with is a bit silly. We all know by now half (if not more) of all media talk is complete rubbish designed to appease the fans on a very short term basis.

And you''re last sentence. We aren''t mighty. We weren''t mighty. Until we''re bought by an extremely rich billionaire we won''t be.

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Have to agree with Broadstairs. Does not pull his weight and the occasional output from his cultured left foot is far too infrequent. A poster recently made reference to the ground he covers in the course of a game. So do the referees and they get a similar number of touches.

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1. Not really beating the club by any means, just a bit underwhelmed. Others seem to be the same, it would appear.

2. "Mighty?" A bit tongue in cheek don''t you think?

However, I will say that we do appear to be on a downward spiral at the moment.

If the West Brom result, one result, had been reversed last season then we would still be plying our trade in the Premier League.

Now there seems to be a general concern amongst the support about getting a result at home today against Watford.

I really do hope that appearances are deceiving though, that the Wolves game was a bit unfortunate and that Adams is capable of getting the most out of his talented squad from now on so that our Club has a season that fulfils our expectations rather than continuing to gradually thwart them.

How the nearly mighty are fallen.

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Now we have recently signed a couple of midfield players and the Bournemouth game has taken place, coupled with the fact that there has been no news of him signing the contract extension he was offered, then there must be some change that he will move.

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Lightweight and defensive qualities poor. Very rarely made a strong determined tackle. These weaknesses could have been partly overlooked if he was an attacking threat - but he wasn''t. Had to go.

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