yellowasanything 0 Posted August 22, 2014 ''straight hilarious''? What does that even mean? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaemae2 0 Posted August 22, 2014 3 consecutive seasons:Player A: 24-2632 games 20 goals28 games 14 goals35 games 27 goalsplayer B 22-2426 games 20 goals37 games 24 goals32 games 19goalsSeems pretty much exactly comparable 1 scored 3 more goals.I mean player A also really tore up the Championship when he was in it too... ;eye roll: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaemae2 0 Posted August 22, 2014 If you want player A 22-24 here you go:19 games 15 goals17 games 17 goals32 games 20 goals.18 less games, 11 less goals... Worse team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaemae2 0 Posted August 22, 2014 27 less games, 11 less goals... Yeah... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,710 Posted August 22, 2014 What are you on about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaemae2 0 Posted August 22, 2014 Success in the SPL means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaemae2 0 Posted August 22, 2014 As well as there have been numerous people who HAD MORE SUCCESS THAN HOOPER that once they left absolutely failed, yet DID BETTER IN THE SPL THAN EVEN HOOPER. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrs miggins 0 Posted August 22, 2014 who''s player A, who''s player B...C, D...SPL in basic terms- league gamesHooper = 95 games - 63 goalsMiller = 191 games - 76 goalsBoyd = 342 games - 189 goalsBut aside from the facts (showing Hooper goal to games ratio is so much better than the other two), your missing the point that Hooper scored 19 goals in just 35 games in an average scunthorpe team in the championship (the league we''re in now), whereas our hero Grant Holt scored just 21 in in 45 games and we finished 2nd. You understand right? You see how he could actually be half decent in this team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrs miggins 0 Posted August 22, 2014 I was typing whilst you were adding even more posts. I wish I hadn''t bothered. Like H says, what are you on about read Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaemae2 0 Posted August 22, 2014 [quote user="mrs miggins"]who''s player A, who''s player B...C, D...SPL in basic terms- league gamesHooper = 95 games - 63 goalsMiller = 191 games - 76 goalsBoyd = 342 games - 189 goalsBut aside from the facts (showing Hooper goal to games ratio is so much better than the other two), your missing the point that Hooper scored 19 goals in just 35 games in an average scunthorpe team in the championship (the league we''re in now), whereas our hero Grant Holt scored just 21 in in 45 games and we finished 2nd. You understand right? You see how he could actually be half decent in this team?[/quote]You seriously can''t be this stupid... Boyd played the majority of those games from 16-22... I already gave you the stats when they were the same age. Boyd played 18 less games than Hooper in that span and scored 11 less goals. Try to figure it out moron.YOU CAN''T COMPARE SOMEONE THAT IS 16-22 WITH SOMEONE WHO WAS 22-24 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaemae2 0 Posted August 22, 2014 Again, type 28 less games 11 less goals from the ages of 22-24 for Boyd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaemae2 0 Posted August 22, 2014 Cameron Jerome had 1 season the Championship where he scored 18 goals... I''m sure he repeated that the other years he was in the Championship, right????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaemae2 0 Posted August 22, 2014 Proven goalscorer in this league based on that 1 year... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrs miggins 0 Posted August 22, 2014 *FACEPALM*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bobp5OHVsWYI don''t think there''s any point responding to you in any different way, stupidity mixed with aggression, fantastic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Klose 0 Posted August 22, 2014 Did Hooper kill your dog jaemae? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaemae2 0 Posted August 22, 2014 [quote user="mrs miggins"]*FACEPALM*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bobp5OHVsWYI don''t think there''s any point responding to you in any different way, stupidity mixed with aggression, fantastic.[/quote]You might not want to talk about intelligence. You were proven statistically wrong. Tell me how great Boyd was once he left Scotland. How did Jerome do other than 1 year in the Championship.You may have an IQ of 10, I can get how you don''t understand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maccys Back 0 Posted August 23, 2014 jaemae2--"As well as there have been numerous people who HAD MORE SUCCESS THAN HOOPER that once they left absolutely failed, yet DID BETTER IN THE SPL THAN EVEN HOOPER."WOW who''s stole the jaemae outta your donut son??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrs miggins 0 Posted August 23, 2014 jaemae2 wrote the following post at 22/08/2014 11:00 PM:You might not want to talk about intelligence. You were proven statistically wrong. Tell me how great Boyd was once he left Scotland. How did Jerome do other than 1 year in the Championship. You may have an IQ of 10, I can get how you don''t understand. ------------------------------------------whats not to understand? I gave you the statistics (they weren''t statistically wrong, are you that stupid?), you said ''no you''ve got to count from when they were both 22 years old,'' so thenyou then gave me your stats from when you started counting, and from this we can officially conclude kris boyd is better than Hooper. Thats right everyone, you heard it here first; kris boyd is now better that hooper because when they were both in the SPL, for a short amount of time, kris boyd scored more goals. Although you''ve totally missed the point of what I was saying and, on a side note had the audacity to say my stats were ''proven'' wrong, I was wondering, in what way were they proven wrong? I took the amount of time each player was in the SPL and compared their goals to games ratio, you then, because your agenda against Hooper, only considered part of the statistics from a point in time. Again I would ask you to read the original post because I don''t know how anyone can get that upset over someone saying Hooper will be great in this league and then manipulate stats to fit their prejudices..its crazy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaemae2 0 Posted August 23, 2014 [quote user="mrs miggins"]jaemae2 wrote the following post at 22/08/2014 11:00 PM:You might not want to talk about intelligence. You were proven statistically wrong. Tell me how great Boyd was once he left Scotland. How did Jerome do other than 1 year in the Championship. You may have an IQ of 10, I can get how you don''t understand. ------------------------------------------whats not to understand? I gave you the statistics (they weren''t statistically wrong, are you that stupid?), you said ''no you''ve got to count from when they were both 22 years old,'' so thenyou then gave me your stats from when you started counting, and from this we can officially conclude kris boyd is better than Hooper. Thats right everyone, you heard it here first; kris boyd is now better that hooper because when they were both in the SPL, for a short amount of time, kris boyd scored more goals. Although you''ve totally missed the point of what I was saying and, on a side note had the audacity to say my stats were ''proven'' wrong, I was wondering, in what way were they proven wrong? I took the amount of time each player was in the SPL and compared their goals to games ratio, you then, because your agenda against Hooper, only considered part of the statistics from a point in time. Again I would ask you to read the original post because I don''t know how anyone can get that upset over someone saying Hooper will be great in this league and then manipulate stats to fit their prejudices..its crazy.[/quote]I''m not surprised it''s hard for you to understand why it''s mentally incompetent to compare 1 player playing games over a span of 6 year when he''s 16-22 with another player who only played in the same league for 3 years when he was 22-24. If you want to do that, let''s add up Hooper''s goals from the time he was 16-22 and compare them with Boyds.I apparently was wrong and being that stupid would be a remarkable achievement that you will never be smart enough to reach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lharman7 39 Posted August 23, 2014 jaemae2, for the record, you were the one who actually started comparing players and players stats first.Take your negative and derogatory comments and do one you sad little blue boy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barclay_boy111 0 Posted August 23, 2014 Reading interested in hooper aparently Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrs miggins 0 Posted August 23, 2014 cheers Iharman, I don''t understand why people need to be as aggressive to support an argument. His argument about Boyd scoring more goals than Hooper in a certain space in time is true and how he''s compared them (by age) is fairer, yet as I said before, it''s not the point I was making and there''s no need to shout and scream to make a point that''s not relevant to what was being discussed and also to say ''your wrong'' when talking about stats; its just so petty and stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted August 23, 2014 [quote user="barclay_boy111"]Reading interested in hooper aparently[/quote]What?No Premiership interest in the superstar Gary Hooper? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yellowasanything 0 Posted August 23, 2014 He seems very passive to the game unless he has the ball.Really liked the tackling back by forwards today and don''t see him doing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,498 Posted August 23, 2014 I have to say his volume speaks volumes for his attitude. How a professional athlete (with pretentions of performing at the highest level) can allow himself to become so flabby is beyond me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fleckys Flip-Flop 0 Posted August 25, 2014 Miggins, Jaemae, you are two extremes of the Hooper debate. Migs, having checked, I can tell you that very few Celtic fans consider Hooper even in their top 10 strikers of all time. Some do mind you, although probably those who never saw Dalglish, Di Canio et al. Maybe at the time it was all very raw for them? Jaemae, can you let us know exactly what it is that Hooper jas done to you? I just don''t understand why you hate him so much!!??!?!?All we can go by is what we have seen. Hooper cant play the lone striker, number 10 or wide role particularly well. Maybe if we play 442 he will fit in. Id keep him to allow Loza to head out on loan. He could be useful, but until we actually see him, surely the jury is still out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrs miggins 0 Posted August 26, 2014 Flecky''s Flip-Flop wrote the following post at 25/08/2014 6:49 PM:Migs, having checked, I can tell you that very few Celtic fans consider Hooper even in their top 10 strikers of all time.--------------------------------------------the fans that I talked to on celtic chat said unanimously that they rated him their second best striker of all time, i''m passing on what they said, you know what message boards are like; most don''t even mean what they say and it was when they were potentially losing their striker. Its not like I have an agenda to keep Hooper, but I don''t see why we need to get rid of him, imo he''s our best striker, with grabban not far behind and I think he''d be great with grabban in the team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 1,324 Posted August 26, 2014 Wouldn''t that mean changing the shape of the team having both Grabban and Hooper in the same team, going to perhaps 442?I''m not sure if you''d want to change the setup that is currently performing so well. The Johnson/Tettey platform is like a midfield wall which you wouldn''t want to change and a 4 in midfield probably means no Wes. Not sure if I''d want to go down that route at the present. How would you see the system with Hooper and Grabban both playing, Mrs. Miggins? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted August 26, 2014 [quote user="Rock The Boat"]Wouldn''t that mean changing the shape of the team having both Grabban and Hooper in the same team, going to perhaps 442? I''m not sure if you''d want to change the setup that is currently performing so well. The Johnson/Tettey platform is like a midfield wall which you wouldn''t want to change and a 4 in midfield probably means no Wes. Not sure if I''d want to go down that route at the present. How would you see the system with Hooper and Grabban both playing, Mrs. Miggins?[/quote]It would be madness to change the way the team is set up while things are going so well to accomodate Hooper - unless Grabban gets injured or loses form Hooper is destined for the bench. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,314 Posted August 26, 2014 I wouldn''t change things at present either but we need to have the option. Wes may get injured or there may simply be occasions where we want to go to a straight 4-4-2.Grabban is currently the man in possession of the shirt and rightly will not be dropped but in my opinion presented with the same chances over the last 3 games Hooper may well have bettered his return. I certainly think he would have done better with the one on ones. we would be mad to let him go and if Reading truly are interested I hope their interest is given the blunt response it deserves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites