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A man walks into a Norwich pet store looking to buy a monkey. The store owner points towards three identical looking monkeys."The one on the left costs £5000," says the store owner."Why so much?" asks the customer."Because it has knowledge and experience in continental football tactics," answers the store owner.The customer inquires about the next monkey and is told, "That one costs £11,500, because it has successfully managed football teams in the Champions League."The startled man then asks about the third monkey. "That one costs £55000," answers the store owner."£55000!!" exclaims the man. "What can that one do?"To which the owner replies, "To be honest, I''ve never seen it do a damn thing, but it calls itself a Technical Director.""If you are really interested we have similar one at £77000 who calls itself a Consultant"

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[quote user="haisbrohacker"]You''ve forgotten about the other monkey called Ceo who costs £777,000 and believes in zero tolerance until it applies to himself. H[/quote]

 

Ouch!

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Football has, like so many other industries, got caught up in this British obsession with fancy job titles.My opinion is that Norwich, along with most clubs is ridiculously overmanned with too many chiefs and not enough indians, but no doubt there will be those who disagree.Quite frankly though, the bottom line is I do not much care what anybody calls himself. Actions speak louder than words . Ultimately, anyone will be judged on whether they excel at the given task they have to do. Anyone in any given job at NCFC can call themselves what they like as far as I''m concerned, but it''ll all count for nought unless , next May, we are not in the top six (or at the very least have made a very strong challenge to have been there)

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My opinion is that Norwich, along with most clubs is ridiculously overmanned with too many chiefs and not enough indians, but no doubt there will be those who disagree.

Totally agree, it''s like management by committee, can''t see it working myself but we''ll see.

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True Reggie. I have always thought the more chiefs in an organisation the easier to hide from responsibility.

As to your last paragraph, if only those disciplines had been applied in the last two seasons eh?

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To be honest, I am sure very few people on here including myself have any idea about the management resources required at a top football club.

That said, when I looked at the management and coaching resources last season I often thought we could do with more, particularly specialists for defending and attacking, but what the f do I know.

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[quote user="Reggie Strayshun"]Football has, like so many other industries, got caught up in this British obsession with fancy job titles.

My opinion is that Norwich, along with most clubs is ridiculously overmanned with too many chiefs and not enough indians, but no doubt there will be those who disagree.

Quite frankly though, the bottom line is I do not much care what anybody calls himself. Actions speak louder than words . Ultimately, anyone will be judged on whether they excel at the given task they have to do. Anyone in any given job at NCFC can call themselves what they like as far as I''m concerned, but it''ll all count for nought unless , next May, we are not in the top six (or at the very least have made a very strong challenge to have been there)
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I disagree. How is it ''ridiculously overmanned''?

All I see are two new jobs. One to do all the back-room stuff so Adams can concentrate on the very important first team. And one to help advise on footballing matters. Hardly overmanned, or am I missing something?!

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[quote user="Herman "]

I disagree. How is it ''ridiculously overmanned''?

All I see are two new jobs. One to do all the back-room stuff so Adams can concentrate on the very important first team. And one to help advise on footballing matters. Hardly overmanned, or am I missing something?!

[/quote]OK, Herman . that is your view. I (and at least two others) disagree with you.Everyone is entitled to their opinion, as I said. Just to be clear, I''m not solely referring to Adams''s department. I''m saying across the board.You never like to hear of people losing their jobs, particularly if it''s through no fault of their own, but it would be interesting to know how many positions have become redundant across the club in total as a result of our relegation .....

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The roles of Adams, Martin and Simmons have been clearly defined for weeks. The main danger is that a director football as a title suggests an oversight over the manager.

The club have made it clear by the definition, that Martin is not a director of football, but rather is in charge of many functions which absorb a manager''s time, and so he is intended to support the manager and not be in conflict in any way. The contact is rather reporting to the manager on results from physios and fitness, for instance.

If there is any conflict it could be between some of McNally''s, for instance in conducting negotiations with other clubs.

In other clubs there has been on occasions a conflict between the director of football and the manager. The club have clearly tried to avoid this, while at the same time reducing the burden on the manager. It seems sensible, let''s hope it works!

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You never like to hear of people losing their jobs, particularly if it''s through no fault of their own, but it would be interesting to know how many positions have become redundant across the club in total as a result of our relegation .....

Quite a few Reggie across the whole structure of the club but mainly it seems on the catering side which I find interesting. Shouldn''t the catering department be self sufficient and not be reliant on the football side of things? We then appointed a committee to help due the managers job!

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I have to side with Herman on this one Reggie. The football side of the organisation has grown too big for one person to effectively manage it without losing focus, it''s too many balls to keep in the air. Departmentalising it in this way allows the manager and coaches to focus more on what they need to, performances on the pitch, whilst someone else can after the sports science and physio etc. reporting back to the manager just what he needs to know to allow him to apply that to the greatest effect. How often do players get rushed back too early or managers get accused of being too interested in the pro zone stats? This should hopefully help to stop that happening.

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[quote user="Reggie Strayshun"]You never like to hear of people losing their jobs, particularly if it''s through no fault of their own, but it would be interesting to know how many positions have become redundant across the club in total as a result of our relegation .....[/quote]Why would it be "interesting" Reggie apart from giving you something else to moan about?

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[quote user="lappinitup"][quote user="Reggie Strayshun"]You never like to hear of people losing their jobs, particularly if it''s through no fault of their own, but it would be interesting to know how many positions have become redundant across the club in total as a result of our relegation .....[/quote]Why would it be "interesting" Reggie apart from giving you something else to moan about?[/quote]Not really one to keep up to date, are we Lapps ?Yes, I''ve had a fair few moans about the team under Hughton, and still do from time to time, but if you take the trouble to read my recent stuff, you''ll find that most have been pretty upbeat and positive re how things will progress.But then again, folk like you never let the actual facts get in the way of a good old fixed -minded rant do you ?PS.....I''ll wager that the people who did lose their CR jobs (catering etc) post relegation are a lot less cavalier and light hearted as you evidently are about it ........

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