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He''s a work horse and should have been dropped in the first half of the season. That said hes been back to his old self again since January. No one more passionate at our club than Snoddy, even if he can be a tad selfish, rough with the smooth and probably pole position realistically for POTS, although if we come through this and stay up I can see a lot of love going towards "Mr Norwich" R.Martin.

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Totally with you folks, Snod''s has got to get POTS for me. Never gives less than 110% for the shirt and always seems to really rise to the challenge in the biggest games - his coolly taken goal against Liverpool kind of epitomised it for me. Sure, he''s no Usain Bolt (not his fault anyway), and yeah he gives the refs a bit of back chat but I don''t mind that at all, infact I like that he gets stuck in like that - his passion to do well boils over just as ours does. Desperately hope we keep him come the summer.

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In terms of effort, he played his best game for ages against Liverpool.

Ran himself to the ground, and showed real belief.

Too bad he did not look like that for the majority of the season, as I have far too often seen him as a sulky big baby.

When he decides to do a bit of work on his shift, he is a good player. When he does not, he is not worth the place in the team.

For me, he is not effective enough for a winger. Evidence given is the poor service our forwards have had all season.

So, the fact that Snoddy has scored a few goals, and is top scorer alongside Hooper does not hide the fact that his overall contribution in this season has not been good enough (goes for all the midfielders).

Agreed he should be considered POTS, but that says a lot about the state of our other players this season.

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[quote user="nutty nigel"]

http://www.teamtalk.com/fanzone/15164/9277851/Snodgrass-shines-for-Canaries

 

I''ve made no secret of how much I rate him. Think he''s a standout for POTS. But like with most things some people see it differently and I''m sure they''ll be along shortly......

 

[;)]

 

 

[/quote]

Player of half season....

He didn''t do much in the first half. He was incredibly frustrating. And the stat I still remember very well, which sums up the first few months for him. In the home game vs Villa Snodgrass to Guzan was a higher ''pass'' rate than any Villa combination.

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I still can blame him missed that penalty at home with Villa!

Was Ricky penalty taker but Snodd take this penalty he missed ...we missed vital pts and same time ideal chance Ricky to grow his confidence.

Key moment for our season Imo.

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I am also very much a Snodgrass admirer. Re the early season form, I recognise that he may not have been at his best early season but even then I would argue that he was probably our most effective performer. In terms of end product and effort, Snoddy has performed better than anyone all season and will certainly get my vote for POTS.http://bwinbetting.com/leagues/premier-league/meet-underrated-premier-league-creator-man-utd-sign,50859.htmlThis was from January and a review of his first half of the season performance.

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"A set-piece specialist who always looks lethal from any dead-ball

situation"
Suppose it''s true if you''re the defender at the near post. 

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You don''t have much positive to say about the side you support Matt, do you?

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[quote user="Matt Juler"]"A set-piece specialist who always looks lethal from any dead-ball

situation"
Suppose it''s true if you''re the defender at the near post. 

[/quote]

Bit harsh Matt, his free kicks may just save our season - if he doesn''t work the keeper then it''s not unusual for him to hit the post or crossbar. Pretty damn accurate, I think he''s an excellent free kick taker and it might just be one of those free kicks in coming games that saves our season as I said. Yeah, he''s had a some dodgy corners but let''s focus on the negatives eh, it''s more fun...

Boris r.e the penalty - none of us knew that Ricky was going to hit the leanest spell of his career from a goal scoring point of view after ''Snodgate'', and there''s nothing to say that because he didn''t get to take the penalty it ensured he would have a miserable season (so far), that''s just hindsight mate - I bet knowing what Snodgrass knows now, he''d have probably let him take it but again it''s all down to hindsight - I''m sure Snod''s had the upmost confidence Ricky would score a hatful this season irrespective of not getting to take ''that penalty'', as the vast majority of us all did I''m sure.

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[quote user="morty"]You don''t have much positive to say about the side you support Matt, do you?[/quote]If people are raving about Snodgrass'' performances, I think that goes to show just how far we''ve fallen over the last couple of seasons.  It''s very difficult to be positive about the near future for the club, however for Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal we now have a glimmer of hope with Neil Adams in charge.  Fortunately, unlike Hughton before him, Adam''s appreciates the limitations of Snodgrass and isn''t playing him on the right wing for 95% of the match, getting him to take every corner, free kick etc., we now have some variety about our play for the first time in two seasons.As I wrote back in May 2013, I just wish we''d said thanks and goodbye to Mr Hughton then and my views are we''d now be watching the relegation battle with interest, but without actively being involved.

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Great effort and determination,   a little too much blame rather than encouragement to team mates earlier in the season,  less so recently.  

 

A good direct free kick taker but he has only 1 such goal this season I think,  and  just 2 assists,  I from a free kick and one corner.  That he has just 3 goals/assists from his hundreds of corners and crosses confirms that the quality of his crossing,  as Matt & GP have alluded to, is inconsistent.  Add in how often he slows attacks down and its easy to see his limitations and where frustrations are.    That Redmond has more assists despite less pitch time,  and less ball time when on the pitch (as it goes to snoddy) says all about snoddys quality on the ball.

 

For me his strongest assest, beyond his drive,  is his timing to get in the box to score,  that is his forte,  not doing the crossing.  

 

My gripe with Snodgrass is that we direct too much of our play through him in relation to the return we get from it;   in my weekly selections he is usually in my starting 11,  but variety in spreading play would enhance us as a team (and mean he would probably add to his goal tally!)

 

Influencial?   A player is influential if we miss them when they dont play;  snoddy missed some games around teh citeh home game and that was arguably our best spell this year - his absence was not noticable.  Fer however has been painfully missed (ditto Ruddy last season) as shown in the last two games once he left the pitch.   Snoddy has a dominating presence - not the same as influential. 

 

He has been one of our best performers but a very poor start to the season has been masked with 5 of his 6 goals and both assists coming after we were knocked out of the FA Cup and reent in the mind;  

 

A candidate for POT(half)S sure but not the complete one;   Ruddy wins that one,  even at the weekend his repeated saves kept us in the game even if it was a forlorn hope.  

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[quote user="ZippersLeftFoot"]Great effort and determination,   a little too much blame rather than encouragement to team mates earlier in the season,  less so recently.  

A good direct free kick taker but he has only 1 such goal this season I think,  and  just 2 assists,  I from a free kick and one corner.  That he has just 3 goals/assists from his hundreds of corners and crosses confirms that the quality of his crossing,  as Matt & GP have alluded to, is inconsistent.  Add in how often he slows attacks down and its easy to see his limitations and where frustrations are.    That Redmond has more assists despite less pitch time,  and less ball time when on the pitch (as it goes to snoddy) says all about snoddys quality on the ball.

For me his strongest assest, beyond his drive,  is his timing to get in the box to score,  that is his forte,  not doing the crossing.  

 My gripe with Snodgrass is that we direct too much of our play through him in relation to the return we get from it;   in my weekly selections he is usually in my starting 11,  but variety in spreading play would enhance us as a team (and mean he would probably add to his goal tally!)

 Influencial?   A player is influential if we miss them when they dont play;  snoddy missed some games around teh citeh home game and that was arguably our best spell this year - his absence was not noticable.  Fer however has been painfully missed (ditto Ruddy last season) as shown in the last two games once he left the pitch.   Snoddy has a dominating presence - not the same as influential. 

He has been one of our best performers but a very poor start to the season has been masked with 5 of his 6 goals and both assists coming after we were knocked out of the FA Cup and reent in the mind;  

A candidate for POT(half)S sure but not the complete one;   Ruddy wins that one,  even at the weekend his repeated saves kept us in the game even if it was a forlorn hope.  [/quote]

Good post. Agree with every word.  

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Snodgrass is massively overrated. His final ball and crossing into the box is very average. He plays as a winger yet has little pace. He also whinges so much it''s cringeworthy.

Yes he works hard and yes he wears his heart on his sleeve. He also has a decent set piece on rare occasions.

Shouldn''t POTS be given to the player who has played consistently well? Snodgrass has had an inconsistent season. He had a large spell when he should have been dropped.

It''s easy for fans to give him POTS when he''s picked his game up slightly in his last few games just because those games are fresh in fans memories.

Ruddy hasn''t been that consistent recently and IMO it should only go to one player, Martin Olsson!

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[quote user="lharman7"]Snodgrass is massively overrated. His final ball and crossing into the box is very average. He plays as a winger yet has little pace. He also whinges so much it''s cringeworthy.

Yes he works hard and yes he wears his heart on his sleeve. He also has a decent set piece on rare occasions.

Shouldn''t POTS be given to the player who has played consistently well? Snodgrass has had an inconsistent season. He had a large spell when he should have been dropped.

It''s easy for fans to give him POTS when he''s picked his game up slightly in his last few games just because those games are fresh in fans memories.

Ruddy hasn''t been that consistent recently and IMO it should only go to one player, Martin Olsson![/quote]Completely agree.

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IMO he''s been much more effective in the last two games, and that''s probably Adams positioning him in the center rather than out on the right. And either due to that, or specific team instructions, not ALL the play goes through him and hence our attacks are more balanced. So if POTS is given for end of season performances, then I can see him given it, if POTS is given for effort, I can see him getting it too, but if POTS is given for effectiveness over the season, and then I''d vote for Ruddy or Olsson.

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[quote user="grefstad"]In terms of effort, he played his best game for ages against Liverpool.

Ran himself to the ground, and showed real belief.

Too bad he did not look like that for the majority of the season, as I have far too often seen him as a sulky big baby.

When he decides to do a bit of work on his shift, he is a good player. When he does not, he is not worth the place in the team.

For me, he is not effective enough for a winger. Evidence given is the poor service our forwards have had all season.

So, the fact that Snoddy has scored a few goals, and is top scorer alongside Hooper does not hide the fact that his overall contribution in this season has not been good enough (goes for all the midfielders).

Agreed he should be considered POTS, but that says a lot about the state of our other players this season.[/quote]

Sorry Grefstad, I don''t agree with:

"When he decides to do a bit of work on his shift, he is a good player".

In my opinion, he always puts in 110% - it''s usually his quality that lets him down rather than workrate. But if every player tried as hard as he did, despite their lack of quality, we''d be alright.

Snoddy would''ve fitted in well under Lambert in our first season - everyone in that team was busting a gut to more than make up for their lack of quality.

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I do agree that Olsson should be POTS though. Ruddy a very close 2nd, but had a bit of a wobble at the start of the season.

Snoddy has been the best player since January though, if there''s an award for that!

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[quote user="MancCanary"]

Sorry Grefstad, I don''t agree with:

"When he decides to do a bit of work on his shift, he is a good player".

In my opinion, he always puts in 110% - it''s usually his quality that lets him down rather than workrate. But if every player tried as hard as he did, despite their lack of quality, we''d be alright.

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Snoddy always puts down 110%? No way.

If you compare the workrate he had vs Liverpool to all the other games this season, you will see Snoddy running much more in the Liverpool game, and giving his all in that game.

Not so in the games when Hughton was here.

Too much sulking, too much backchatting with refs, too much moaning to teammates to run here and there, bemoaning passes, etc.

For me, Snoddy seem to have had a change of heart when Adams came in, as he plays more offensive football.

Remember Snoddy was at his best at Leeds when they played very attacking football.

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I partly agree. He did put more effort in against Liverpool, but then so did everyone else too.

Whilst under Hughton, he may have been putting in less effort, it was still usually more than the rest of the team. Olsson perhaps his equal in that sense.

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[quote user="Michael Starr"]The British love a trier. [/quote]

 

I bemoan BJ who gives away the ball on average every 5 mins each game,   but he is only the second worst midfielder at losing possession,  with Snoddy being the worst at doing so every over 3.5 mins.

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