CANARYKING 634 Posted March 20, 2014 Shadow of the player he was, Yes I know he has had injuries but last week even I could have put in more effort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetteys Jig 830 Posted March 20, 2014 I know! It seems he''s lost some of that spark he used to have. Perhaps he''s struggling to get to full fitness like RVW seemingly is. Even Howson didn''t look great when he returned and Bassong has suffered this season. Perhaps it''s becoming harder to get full fitness back in the premiership? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rustyboy 2 Posted March 20, 2014 How can any player get fully match fit when there is no competitive reserve games? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoolahans Left Foot 0 Posted March 20, 2014 Fed up playing uninspiring $hit like most of the squad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJP 79 Posted March 20, 2014 I think I might have mentioned it on another thread somewhere but... Although Hoolahan took all the headlines in January he might not have been the only player who tried to get out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Brownstone 0 Posted March 20, 2014 Heard the same GJP. Probably why we''ve heard nothing about a new contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dubai Mark 0 Posted March 20, 2014 To be honest, I dont want to see players at our club who want out when things start to get tough. If that is the case, even with Pilks, who I am a big fan of then its unacceptable.......taht sadi, he could well be struggling to step it up, as mentioned, it cant beeasy coming back in after such a long lay off......mmm maybe he gets a couple more chances......but that wasnt good Saturday! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dubai Mark 0 Posted March 20, 2014 that said...I really must check my spelling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gingerpele 0 Posted March 20, 2014 He''s probably just upset he plays for Norwich so is only worth £500k because playing in the PL for Norwich doesn''t count... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
......and Smith must score. 1,309 Posted March 20, 2014 [quote user="Dubai Mark"]that said...I really must check my spelling[/quote]Thought we were sniffing around another potential signing [:D] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Google Bot 3,226 Posted March 20, 2014 There''s been several occasions where he''s flung his arms up and had heated words with CH and CC on the sideline. I don''t think there''s much love there.However, that said, really valid point made on here in regards to the lack of regular competitive reserves fixtures. Best league in the world supposedly, but only for the ''elite'' few. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
can u sit down please 0 Posted March 20, 2014 [quote user="Dubai Mark"]To be honest, I dont want to see players at our club who want out when things start to get tough. If that is the case, even with Pilks, who I am a big fan of then its unacceptable.......taht sadi, he could well be struggling to step it up, as mentioned, it cant beeasy coming back in after such a long lay off......mmm maybe he gets a couple more chances......but that wasnt good Saturday!     [/quote]It''s not about wanting out when the going gets tough. Wes esp just wanted to play and pilks is no doubt the same.It''s prob down to not having a manager that believes in him and uses him sparingly. He looked quality under PL but a shadow of that under CH. To be fair not many players look good at the minute. Coincidence? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pliff 4 Posted March 20, 2014 Championship player at best hasn''t got a fight in him wants it on a plate and can''t open his legs when he needs to get by a full back get rid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
priceyrice 123 Posted March 20, 2014 Our best player on his day. Contract up in a few months isn''t it so will be off on a free Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katie Borkins 1 Posted March 20, 2014 [quote user="pliff"]wants it on a plate and can''t open his legs when he needs to get by[/quote]Reckon that sounds like my ex-wife. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Brownstone 0 Posted March 20, 2014 Don''t we have an option for a further 12 months? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
priceyrice 123 Posted March 20, 2014 I don''t know Brownstone. So little has been made of his contract ending that you may well be right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,314 Posted March 20, 2014 Pretty sure we do( have 12 mth option). An in form Pilks is a mighty player, two footed, good shot, good cross, good with his head. He''s a big miss for us when not in top form.... keep him, he''d cost a lot more to replace. Probably just needs a run of games, and so we''re back to lack of reserve team competitive fixtures. Too many players seem to return not fully match fit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vlad666 202 Posted March 21, 2014 I think we''re guilty of judging our players on their very best days. All of our players are good enough on these occasions. Unfortunately the majority can''t do it consistently. I think that''s why we had such success under lambert. Somebody you can get the best out of average players. An excellent motivator. This isn''t a slight on hughton. I just don''t see the players willing to run through brick walls for him. Having a squad with too many inconsistent players is our downfall. Out of all our signings over the last 5 years, how many have been PROVEN in the PREMIER when they signed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ARCHIEGEMMELL 0 Posted March 21, 2014 A good player at his very best but unfortunately has far too many average days and his crossing can be quite woeful at times! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HampsteadCanary 0 Posted March 21, 2014 [quote user="vlad666"]I think we''re guilty of judging our players on their very best days. All of our players are good enough on these occasions. Unfortunately the majority can''t do it consistently. I think that''s why we had such success under lambert. Somebody you can get the best out of average players. An excellent motivator. This isn''t a slight on hughton. I just don''t see the players willing to run through brick walls for him. Having a squad with too many inconsistent players is our downfall. Out of all our signings over the last 5 years, how many have been PROVEN in the PREMIER when they signed?[/quote]Only Bassong?, maybe Michael Turner? I suppose Gutierrez counts, but you''re right, we don''t have any players who have played a significant part in the PL with any other club. But then look at Southampton...all youth team, players that came up with them from League One like us and excellent buys from the foreign leagues. Very few established PL players in their or in Swansea''s teams for example. Look what PL experience did for QPR last year! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HampsteadCanary 0 Posted March 21, 2014 [quote user="vlad666"]I think we''re guilty of judging our players on their very best days. All of our players are good enough on these occasions. Unfortunately the majority can''t do it consistently. I think that''s why we had such success under lambert. Somebody you can get the best out of average players. An excellent motivator. This isn''t a slight on hughton. I just don''t see the players willing to run through brick walls for him. Having a squad with too many inconsistent players is our downfall. Out of all our signings over the last 5 years, how many have been PROVEN in the PREMIER when they signed?[/quote]Only Bassong?, maybe Michael Turner? I suppose Gutierrez counts, but you''re right, we don''t have any players who have played a significant part in the PL with any other club. But then look at Southampton...all youth team, players that came up with them from League One like us and excellent buys from the foreign leagues. Very few established PL players in their or in Swansea''s teams for example. Look what PL experience did for QPR last year! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
can u sit down please 0 Posted March 21, 2014 I must''ve missed southamptons abundance of PL experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vos 155 Posted March 21, 2014 Have never really rated him. Seems to have long anonymous spells. Watching Soton game extended highlights I can hardly recall him being mentioned. BUT it is fair to say that not one player has really moved on and improved since the arrival of Hughton and his management team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites