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Nearly all our attacks are slow to build up. The clips of RVW at Sporting show early crosses and him attacking them.   Is it beyond Snodgrass and Redmond to occasionally take a chance with an early cross?    RVW or Hooper would respond to that.  Holt used to get in good positions on the far post only for the ball to be delayed?  So is it beyond them?  They are both supposed to be able to kick with both feet.  The one thing that Pilks has is the ability to cross with either foot equally well, so defenders aren''t sure which way he''s going to go. So why don''t Redmond and Snodders do that too?   They need to make defenders uncertain about which way to turn . Going the same way every time is just  too predictable.......

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It would help if we had a right footed player on the right wing and left footed player on the left wing. Hughton seems intent on doing the opposite.

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It''s no good you turning on the players at this stage LDC. Getting on the backs of Snodgrass and Redmond for their inability to deliver the early ball - could be the ruination of our season. We need people to support the players at this stage, not jumping on messageboards to slag them off. Shame on you.

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[quote user="danielsroundabout"]It''s no good you turning on the players at this stage LDC. Getting on the backs of Snodgrass and Redmond for their inability to deliver the early ball - could be the ruination of our season. We need people to support the players at this stage, not jumping on messageboards to slag them off. Shame on you.[/quote]

[:D]  Just offering some encouragement to cross early. Perhaps if enough people say it...............we had a thread on here last season saying "shoot".  Perhaps if people shout "cross" it might help [:^)]

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Early crosses are only any good if we actually get players in the box and they are accurate. If we can remedy both of those failings we should win

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"Early crosses are only any good if we actually get players in the box

and they are accurate. If we can remedy both of those failings we

should win"

Every match I''ve been to or  watched this season - and that''s all of them - there have been times in every match where the opportunity was there for an early cross - and with players in the box waiting - and the cross is delayed or never comes in.   Goals are there if we have the confidence to cross the ball accurately and early - and stretching a defence with early balls in creates space. 

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You are aware this is by the managers design right? We don''t do stretching teams or quick attacks, it''s all about keeping our shape to avoid being caught on the break. This is why we don''t create enough chances....and it also doesn''t really keep the goal tally down much either. I really wish Hughton would change his whole philosophy, I bet he''s brilliant in a lot of aspects, just his tactical approach and match day decision making are staggeringly nonsensical and inept.

West Brom last year and Stoke away this year for example we pressed all over the pitch effectively and attacked quickly with freedom (I know I''m really over simplifying it) and look what happened! Games like Cardiff we were on top but were still playing the typical predictable rigid Hughton way and despite having a lot of possesion couldn''t break them down, nearly didn''t break Hull down the same way etc. I just find it baffling Hughton continues with this approach when it''s so obvious it''s extremely detrimental. I just don''t get it!!!!

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[quote user="lake district canary"]Nearly all our attacks are slow to build up. The clips of RVW at Sporting show early crosses and him attacking them.   Is it beyond Snodgrass and Redmond to occasionally take a chance with an early cross?    RVW or Hooper would respond to that.  Holt used to get in good positions on the far post only for the ball to be delayed?  So is it beyond them?  They are both supposed to be able to kick with both feet.  The one thing that Pilks has is the ability to cross with either foot equally well, so defenders aren''t sure which way he''s going to go. So why don''t Redmond and Snodders do that too?   They need to make defenders uncertain about which way to turn . Going the same way every time is just  too predictable.......

[/quote]this is the millon dollar question. Why don''t we do it? If fans both pro and anti the manager can see the exact same issue, why can''t the staff/players?

Snodgrass relies on his crossing, he doesn''t have the pace to beat players (its not necesarily a bad thing - Beckham wasn''t exactly renowned for pace)

Redmond has the pace to beat his man on the outside and whip balls across, but too often he seems his name in lights and shanks a shot or he tries too many stepovers and loses the ball.

I sit lower n&p near the city stand & 1 thing i have noticed is Snodgrass using his right foot more. OK, quality is a bit hit & miss but he is trying to improve. Redmond is young and will improve. He almost needs specialist coaching from an ex winger (Hucks?) just to help him think about what decisions to make. Also its good to see wingers swapping sides throughout the game - offers an extra dimension

 

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Almost two seasons of slow build up play and few goals, we can all see the problem but after being given time and money none of that is down to Hughton is it LDC?

It was obvious to me a long time ago this manager was plain wrong for Norwich City.

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[quote user="RUDOLPH HUCKER"]Almost two seasons of slow build up play and few goals, we can all see the problem but after being given time and money none of that is down to Hughton is it LDC?

It was obvious to me a long time ago this manager was plain wrong for Norwich City.[/quote]

Well, your oviously got a better view than your cook, where do you sit that as all so crystal clear?

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6088m canary wrote the following post at 22/03/2014 1:50 AM:

As has been pointed out....you can''t put an early cross into the box if there is one city player and 4 or 5 defenders!

Absolutely. Calling for early crosses is nonsence in the context of the way we play, there is rarely anyone in the box to receive them and if they are there they are outnumbered.

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I think it''s not so much ''early'' crossing as having a bit more conviction when we do.

I rarely feel like any of our crosses are really aimed at a certain player or to create a certain type of chance; we seem to just get the ball in there and hope for the best.

At the same time our attacking players don''t seem to have much idea of what kind of delivery is coming, meaning they just make some sort of run and often end up looking stranded

Bit more belief in our own abilities would do wonders IMO.

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when I played wide right ( quite high standard ) bill punton ex Norwich player was manager and he told me to beat the full back and get the ball into the danger area it is the strikers job to get there and win the ball or shoot / head

ruel fox I think was one of the best at this we have had here for just doing that .....hucks eadie were different more all round players

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I agree with the idea of early crosses, so long as they are into space for the strikers to run on to. Snoddy has been a good player, but by the time he gets anywhere near the goal line the defence is all in position, passes are more difficult and strikers have little space.

Redmond is a different case. He is so quick that our players are still arriving by the time the winger gets to the by line. He is faced with pull backs rather than crosses. There is still a good argument for getting to to the by-line - it scares defenders, and opponents generally have to pull a midfielder back to deal with him, leaving them less of an attacking threat and upsetting the balance of their team.

Pace is difficult to deal with, so if Redmond starts, and he should, we ought to have Josh ready to come on later when defenders are tiring a little and go past them. In a week or two we may have Benno back. Both of them are probably superior to Redmond in crossing.

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