NCFC for life 1993- 0 Posted January 29, 2014 I know it''s too early too predict this weekend, but Just been looking at the as it stands table. Cardiff rock bottom will know they have to win otherwise they will get cut adrift. Even a win might not take them out of the bottom 3 and if they can''t beat us, who are poor away from home at this moment,they deserve to go down. If we could win we will give ourselves a cushion with regards to the bottom 3.We won''t get anything against Manchester city or spurs at home. It''s going to be a ridiculous end of season for us yet again! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOO 0 Posted January 29, 2014 A point would be fine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djc 0 Posted January 29, 2014 We did everything but score against them at Carra. We should got there and win. The board should demand it. After the way we ended the match last night we should win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LostTheFaith 0 Posted January 29, 2014 Every game is Huge. A point would be great. Lose and the daggers will be out again. Sad really that people cannot enjoy the ride. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 8,021 Posted January 29, 2014 [quote user="KeepTheFaith"]Every game is Huge. A point would be great. Lose and the daggers will be out again. Sad really that people cannot enjoy the ride.[/quote]This^^^^^Did anyone expect it would be easy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 6,369 Posted January 29, 2014 [quote user="Vanwink"]A point would be fine[/quote]Yes. Provided we then either beat Man City or West Ham. We need a win from the quartet of games finishing with West Ham away. The point being that if we don''t win one of those four then it is hard to see us getting the four wins we would then probably require between now and the end of the season to get us to 38 points. Which is the new 40. Ie safe, and possibly safe with a few points to spare. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOO 0 Posted January 29, 2014 We will need 13 points from the remaining 14 games. That should be achievable for us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 5,243 Posted January 29, 2014 [quote user="Vanwink"]We will need 13 points from the remaining 14 games. That should be achievable for us.[/quote]On what do you exactly base that on Ricky ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 29, 2014 [quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="Vanwink"]We will need 13 points from the remaining 14 games. That should be achievable for us.[/quote]On what do you exactly base that on Ricky ?[/quote]Would say 12 points as it standsmost teams tend to keep to their average, at the moment that is 0.75 a game for the bottom threeFor the bottom three to achieve 36 points now it would require them to have a season average of 49 points !can you seriously see that ?our aim must be to finish top of this current bottom eleven so Every game is Huge(as said above) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOO 0 Posted January 29, 2014 TIL 1010 wrote the following post at 29/01/2014 10:09 PM: Vanwink wrote:We will need 13 points from the remaining 14 games. That should be achievable for us.On what do you exactly base that on Ricky ?To get the 38 points purple referred to should we gain a point against Cardiff would leave us requiring 13 points from the remaining 14 games. We are averaging over a point a game at the moment, do you think that will change? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 5,243 Posted January 29, 2014 [quote user="Vanwink"]TIL 1010 wrote the following post at 29/01/2014 10:09 PM: Vanwink wrote: We will need 13 points from the remaining 14 games. That should be achievable for us. On what do you exactly base that on Ricky ? To get the 38 points purple referred to should we gain a point against Cardiff would leave us requiring 13 points from the remaining 14 games. We are averaging over a point a game at the moment, do you think that will change?[/quote]You honestly think we will achieve a point a game from the last 4 and not forgetting of course a visit to our happy hunting ground Craven Cottage 5th from last ?...... yeah righto Ricky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOO 0 Posted January 29, 2014 I think we will get 13 from 14 games, yes I do honestly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Juler 208 Posted January 29, 2014 In your mind, what games are the 13 points going to come from? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 957 Posted January 29, 2014 [quote user="Vanwink"]A point would be fine[/quote]Well, with our attacking prowess, our thirst for goals, a point is probably the best we can hope for. Unless Cardiff score of course and then it''s more than likely going to be nil points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOO 0 Posted January 29, 2014 I don''t know which games, but I do know that we have consistently secured in excess of one point a game under Hughton, over one and a half seasons and I don''t see any reason that should change.Plus we do have a spirit in the side which seems to enable us to pull a result out of the bag when we really need it.It ain''t going to be pretty and if we do just scrape survival Hughton will have had his day for me, but I think we will scrap and get the points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unique 466 Posted January 29, 2014 Would that be the spirit that overflowed in abundance during the first-half of last night''s game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZLF 334 Posted January 29, 2014 This is a must not lose game, go to win but not lose is the priority. Shore up midfield, Jonas in for Ricky, Pilkington or Snodgrass central, tettey deep with fer and we should get what we needCoyy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOO 0 Posted January 29, 2014 unique wrote the following post at 29/01/2014 11:48 PM:Would that be the spirit that overflowed in abundance during the first-half of last night''s game? Did you see an improvement in the second half? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 29, 2014 [quote user="Vanwink"]unique wrote the following post at 29/01/2014 11:48 PM:Would that be the spirit that overflowed in abundance during the first-half of last night''s game? Did you see an improvement in the second half?[/quote]would it have been possible to get any worse ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOO 0 Posted January 29, 2014 ZippersLeftFoot wrote the following post at 29/01/2014 11:55 PM:This is a must not lose game, go to win but not lose is the priority. Shore up midfield, Jonas in for Ricky, Pilkington or Snodgrass central, tettey deep with fer and we should get what we need Coyy That''s what will happen, I think we have seen the last of Ricky and Hoops playing together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOO 0 Posted January 29, 2014 City1st wrote the following post at 29/01/2014 11:57 PM: Vanwink wrote:unique wrote the following post at 29/01/2014 11:48 PM: Would that be the spirit that overflowed in abundance during the first-half of last night''s game? Did you see an improvement in the second half?would it have been possible to get any worse ?We could have been losing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 30, 2014 [quote user="Vanwink"]City1st wrote the following post at 29/01/2014 11:57 PM: Vanwink wrote:unique wrote the following post at 29/01/2014 11:48 PM: Would that be the spirit that overflowed in abundance during the first-half of last night''s game? Did you see an improvement in the second half?would it have been possible to get any worse ?We could have been losing.[/quote]you are confusing spirit with goals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yorkshire Canary 118 Posted January 30, 2014 Was always going to be an important game but no bigger than West Ham and Fulham away and Sunderland. WBA and Stoke at home Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 6,369 Posted January 30, 2014 [quote user="Vanwink"]TIL 1010 wrote the following post at 29/01/2014 10:09 PM: Vanwink wrote:We will need 13 points from the remaining 14 games. That should be achievable for us.On what do you exactly base that on Ricky ?To get the 38 points purple referred to should we gain a point against Cardiff would leave us requiring 13 points from the remaining 14 games. We are averaging over a point a game at the moment, do you think that will change?[/quote]To add to this. I don''t think we will go down, and I don''t think we will need 38 points. But this season 38 looks like being the new 40, in the sense that it almost certainly means safety, and probably safety with a few points to spare. Even so it would mean a serious regression for us (of six points) from last season.The argument against being happy with a point at Cardiff is this. I look at blocks of games. From the quartet of Newcastle, Cardiff, Man City and West Ham, we should get one win..Not beating Cardiff effectively means we have to win at Upton Park.If we fail to achieve that, if we can''t get a win from those four matches, then it is hard to see how we would get four wins from the remaining 12 fixtures (we now have 15 left, not 14). Some of them should be winnable, but then three of this current quartet look winnable.Why four wins? Getting to 38 points is achievable with three wins and five draws, but that would mean getting a result in more than half our remaining games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOO 0 Posted January 30, 2014 Yes I am aware we still have 15 remaining games, I was talking about the situation we would be in should we get a draw at Cardiff ie being on 25 points with 14 games remaining. Predicting results is an impossible task, we will lose some we expect to win and will pick up unexpected points, looking at performance and points per game over the last season and a half I suspect is a little bit more likely to reflect what the final outcome will be. If you want to look at specifics and in the OP context of "Huge Games" then Stoke Sunderland and West Brom are the huge games for me, if we can pick up 9 points there then we need 4 points from the remaining 11 fixtures which I think is possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirby_86 0 Posted January 30, 2014 We aren''t playing at all well at the moment as people know.However, why are Man City and Spurs nailed on defeats? We have seen some of the less fancied teams taking points off the biggest clubs in the land this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The ghost of Michael Theoklitos 0 Posted January 30, 2014 I look forward to next weeks "Man City game is now Huge!" thread...Closely followed by "West Ham game is now Huge!" thread.......plus the added joy of the "Will beating West Ham relegate us?" thread revival..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the bristol nest 0 Posted January 30, 2014 That may be so but we cannot wait until the final run of games whoever they may be. Cardiff is huge because it it in the winnable category of which there are not that many left. If we lose on Saturday and we fail to batter Man City (!) then with each game comes more pressure. Let''s start winning now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 6,369 Posted January 30, 2014 [quote user="Vanwink"]Yes I am aware we still have 15 remaining games[/quote][:$][:$][:$][:$][:$][:$] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,579 Posted January 30, 2014 We really must not go to Cardiff and play for a draw. If we have to settle for a point then fine its not a bad result but this is one of our most winnable games remaining and we should be looking to try and win it. They will be bang up for this so if we sit off them and invite pressure onto ourselves we will be asking for trouble.If Gutierez comes back in and Snod keeps his place then we should play Redmond behind Hooper so we actually have a bit of pace for them to worry about. Otherwise we will be putting out possibly the slowest and most one dimensional side the prem has ever seen! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites