Tetteys Jig 830 Posted November 23, 2013 Time to go i''m afraid, our players showed today in the last 20 minutes that they can play.4-5-1 with Johnson in the team was absolute suicide. Elmander and Hooper had to start.Time to get a manager in who has a bit of spontineity and a bit of excitement, we have a few players who with the right guidance can provide that, Hughton clearly isn''t the man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wiz 0 Posted November 23, 2013 Sadly, I now have to agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
havemyhowsonit 0 Posted November 23, 2013 Should have went months ago. End of story. Like reading the same book everyday Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 23, 2013 There is no way back for him now. Too many fundamental problems to recover from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SYG 0 Posted November 23, 2013 Agreed, his time is well and turly up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ginja 26 Posted November 23, 2013 It''s inevitable, it''s just a matter of when he''ll be sacked not if. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,349 Posted November 23, 2013 sorry but I can''t go along with that. If we could ever get to half time without being behind we might have a chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Juggy 0 Posted November 23, 2013 I think it was terrible defending which lost us the game, but that is an altogether different conversation...... because we hear that he has "improved us defensively", and we get Adrian Forbes telling us that they all work on defending every week in training, and he is a former defender. We failed to bring in a centre back this summer, and in my opinion our best right back doesn''t get picked.Our defending has been Championship standard in recent weeks. We can''t even fall back on "at least he has improved our defence" argument, because well.... we are getting ripped to shreds most weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zak Van Burger 0 Posted November 23, 2013 Purely out of interest who managed the team today during the last twenty minutes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 1,948 Posted November 23, 2013 Yep me too. I really wanted Hughton to succeed, but it''s just not worked out. Enough is enough. He has to go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Juggy 0 Posted November 23, 2013 "Purely out of interest who managed the team today during the last twenty minutes?"The same man who got it wrong for the first 70 minutes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJP 79 Posted November 23, 2013 Players like to play with a bit of freedom. To be trusted to be able to show what they can do. Hughton''s methods and approach are very restrictive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetteys Jig 830 Posted November 23, 2013 [quote user="The Sensational Zak Cartman"]Purely out of interest who managed the team today during the last twenty minutes?[/quote]Hughton, but the problem was, it was too late, Newcastle were home and dry. If we stopped giving the opposition so much respect and actually spent the first half getting under their skin instead of conceding sloppy goals due to being camped in our own half, then we might actually pick some points up on the road. Teams must love playing us at home, we turn up waving the white flag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
city4eva 207 Posted November 23, 2013 [quote user="ricardo"]sorry but I can''t go along with that. If we could ever get to half time without being behind we might have a chance.[/quote] How many more first half performances should he have before you see the light Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReadingCanary 0 Posted November 23, 2013 He will get the palace game I presume. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted November 23, 2013 Not going to happen i''m afraid, i really think he has the boards backing and that he will take us down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetteys Jig 830 Posted November 23, 2013 My point is Ricardo, that his negative tactics are the reason we concede so early, the pressure on the defence is overwhelming and inevitably, mistakes are made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,349 Posted November 23, 2013 [quote user="city4eva"][quote user="ricardo"]sorry but I can''t go along with that. If we could ever get to half time without being behind we might have a chance.[/quote] How many more first half performances should he have before you see the light[/quote]If you can''t get to halftime away from home without being behind then there is very likely to be no light at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Budapest Canary 152 Posted November 23, 2013 We had our chances in the first half, several of them! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Willmeister 35 Posted November 23, 2013 We can''t play Hooper on his own up front, did he even touch the ball today? The second I looked at that line up I was feeling uneasy.We have got to stop being so afraid of the opposition, our one away win against Stoke we harried and hassled them all over the pitch and they didn''t cause us one problem. After that game I though Hughton had cracked it. But ever since we drop off give the opposition all the time they need.The very latest those subs should have been made was the second after Fer scored, but we all know they should have been made at halftime, or at least ten/15 minutes in to the second half. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,349 Posted November 23, 2013 [quote user="Jimmy Smith"]My point is Ricardo, that his negative tactics are the reason we concede so early, the pressure on the defence is overwhelming and inevitably, mistakes are made.[/quote]I didn''t realise that giving away a needless corner was part of the tactics Jimmy. I thought Martin was very poor for both goals and has not been his old self this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJP 79 Posted November 23, 2013 We play better with Whittaker in the team but keep playing Martin. You don''t play your best players you''re not going anywhere. Same with Bassong/Bennett. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,513 Posted November 23, 2013 The first goal was a defensive nightmare and the second not much better. That has nothing to do with the way the team is set up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SeattleCanary 0 Posted November 23, 2013 [quote user="Le Juge"]"Purely out of interest who managed the team today during the last twenty minutes?"The same man who got it wrong for the first 70 minutes.[/quote]Tek a boo son! [;)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jedi 0 Posted November 23, 2013 Correct.............gutless CH. Goodbye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clarkey1972 0 Posted November 23, 2013 Can''t agree im afraid.I thought we played well today, yes two blunders allowed the goals but they are individual errors.I thought our shape was good and we bounced back well from the early setback and had a go.We seemed to move the ball a bit quicker for me today as well.Thought we deserved a point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 1,326 Posted November 23, 2013 We lost because of goalkeeping errors. Little the manager can do about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,349 Posted November 23, 2013 [quote user="nutty nigel"]The first goal was a defensive nightmare and the second not much better. That has nothing to do with the way the team is set up. [/quote]People continue to parrot this "set up" nonsense without really understanding what they are talking about. We have not got to halftime without being behind in any away game this season except Stoke, and that''s the only game we got points from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snake-eyes 13 Posted November 23, 2013 Sack Ruddy and keep Hughton then RTB? Poor defending, slow build up and no real creativity. (Until it was too late). Great performance! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 1,948 Posted November 23, 2013 [quote user="clarkey1972"]Can''t agree im afraid.I thought we played well today, yes two blunders allowed the goals but they are individual errors.I thought our shape was good and we bounced back well from the early setback and had a go.We seemed to move the ball a bit quicker for me today as well.Thought we deserved a point.[/quote]If you were watching the same game, I think you might be in a very small minority of one that saw the game like that today.We were terrible, and looked entirely toothless. The only reason we "had a go" was Newcastle took their foot off the gas second half. Even then, our version of "having a go" consisted of creating pretty much nothing in terms of chances, and just watching Newcastle clear it comfortably every time we got within 30 yards.We really zipped it around along our back line but as soon as we got near the centre circle it was more of the same plodding away doing nothing with the ball.I don''t think we deserved a point or anything close to it. We got exactly what we deserved and the scoreline flattered us if anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites