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Y''all get what you want, that nice Mr Hughton''s head on a stick, he gets his marching orders.What do you think will change, and what timescale will it follow.Bear in mind we have the players we have until January.What do you think a new manager will change?Try and have a proper think, and don''t just say "Score more goals" Use your expert analysis as to how our players could be better employed to create more chances and score goals. Don''t just say "Make better substitutions" or "Be more positive" either.How long will you give this new manager to get it right, bearing in mind how fickle some of you are (I saw grown men behaving like a child whose lollipop had been stolen yesterday)

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mike phelan with coaching staff who arent all former defenders - 442 - wingers beating their man on the outside and crossing for our two expensive talented strikers to feed off with our talented dutch international midfielder making runs into the box to support them, the other midfielder sitting and helping out the back 4. Back to basics. rough and tumble with a variation of balls over the top, into space on the flanks for the pacey redmond and olsson AS well as short passing build from the back play. more than one plan, substitutions when its clearly not working (not 25 minutes too late), playing for the win whoever the opposition is instead of parking the bus nearly every game and thinking that a draw is a good result

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He didn''t park the bus yesterday or against Chelsea or Arsenal. Or Hull and Villa. But we didn''t get the results. So then what.....

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A point made on CC was about having an attacking type coach on the training ground.  On the face of it sounds a good idea.  However in practice it''s pointless when Hoots seems to be a tracksuit manager who orchestrates the training.

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[quote user="iron_stan"]mike phelan with coaching staff who arent all former defenders - 442 - wingers beating their man on the outside and crossing for our two expensive talented strikers to feed off with our talented dutch international midfielder making runs into the box to support them, the other midfielder sitting and helping out the back 4. Back to basics. rough and tumble with a variation of balls over the top, into space on the flanks for the pacey redmond and olsson AS well as short passing build from the back play. more than one plan, substitutions when its clearly not working (not 25 minutes too late), playing for the win whoever the opposition is instead of parking the bus nearly every game and thinking that a draw is a good result[/quote]A lot of good points there[Y]

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Seriously though Houston I did. Some good points completely spoiled by sticking on a bs statement. If he was talking about last season then he may have had a point.

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Good plan, Stan, except that when those two forwards and that attacking midfielder lose the ball, as they inevitably do, those 5 opposing midfielders will outrun and outnumber our 3 remaining midfielders, and setup their one world class striker to score. That''s why almost all teams in the PL play one up front.

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[quote user="morty"]Y''all get what you want, that nice Mr Hughton''s head on a stick, he gets his marching orders.

What do you think will change, and what timescale will it follow.

Bear in mind we have the players we have until January.

What do you think a new manager will change?

Try and have a proper think, and don''t just say "Score more goals" Use your expert analysis as to how our players could be better employed to create more chances and score goals. Don''t just say "Make better substitutions" or "Be more positive" either.

How long will you give this new manager to get it right, bearing in mind how fickle some of you are (I saw grown men behaving like a child whose lollipop had been stolen yesterday)
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What, like it was with all the ''Worthy Out'' malarky?[:^)]

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I''m not for Hughton out but he is most certainly not beyond doubt.

I have seen it mentioned on here before that we might benefit from an additional coach who is able to add expertise to our attacking intent.

Something is missing there and I don''t know what it is, but the second poster made some good points.

Carrow Road has become bit of a graveyard for strikers with Holt, Morison, Kamara and Becchio all failing to blossom fully since the Hoots and his team arrived. Whilst we are now worrying for the prospects of both RVW and Hooper.

They can''t all suddenly cease to be efficient at their role without some underlying cause existing.

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Why not focus on the good parts he wrote about? Oh yah, we''re Norwich fans.

JF, what''s happening now isn''t working. We need to utilize the offensive talent we brought in. Develop some plays and use them. If we get caught short, so be it. At least we''d be scoring and therefore have a chance to win.

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Think this piece from Cardiff is very interesting -

Some fans are beginning to question Malky’s tactics

Cardiff City were certainly happy with their hard-earned draw, but a look at the message boards indicates some travelling supporters were unhappy at what they saw as something of a negative approach from the Bluebirds. The half-time introduction of two defensive-minded players at the expense of the goal threat Kim Bo-Kyung or Peter Odemwingie could have shored things up, but the Bluebirds never looked capable of scoring afterwards. The view from some fans on the forums is that Norwich were a team in turmoil, there for the taking, their manager under pressure. Instead, they had 31 shots on goal.. a Premier League record this season! City fought, scrapped and battled, but some fans, rightly or wrongly, are beginning to want more creativity and numbers going forward against opposition they believe the Bluebirds are capable of defeating.

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[quote user="BroadstairsR"]I''m not for Hughton out but he is most certainly not beyond doubt.

I have seen it mentioned on here before that we might benefit from an additional coach who is able to add expertise to our attacking intent.

Something is missing there and I don''t know what it is, but the second poster made some good points.

Carrow Road has become bit of a graveyard for strikers with Holt, Morison, Kamara and Becchio all failing to blossom fully since the Hoots and his team arrived. Whilst we are now worrying for the prospects of both RVW and Hooper.

They can''t all suddenly cease to be efficient at their role without some underlying cause existing.[/quote]
Which is my thinking.
Hoots, great bloke. But doesn''t get the most out of the players.
My concern in the long run.  RVW & Hoops getting really frustrated.

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[quote user="Jack Flash"]Good plan, Stan, except that when those two forwards and that attacking midfielder lose the ball, as they inevitably do, those 5 opposing midfielders will outrun and outnumber our 3 remaining midfielders, and setup their one world class striker to score. That''s why almost all teams in the PL play one up front.[/quote]

the thing is, jack, how often do you hear managers say things like ''we cant worry about them, its about us, what we do''we need to play to OUR strengths, we are not chelsea, utd, spurs, arsenal, man city. WE dont have 4 world class international midfielders to back up our lone striker, we have onewe do however have 2 very good expensive (for norwich) strikers and one highly rated right footed pacey u21 winger, and a pacey swedish international left footed wing back who can also play left wing.we also have a squad the bulk of which are BRITISH. players which have played that system for years and know it inside out, its just as important the players know their position and their job as what formation they are playing.weve tried this 451/433 system for ages now and its clearly not working in terms of converting chances, and its defensively not that impressive eithersquare pegs/round holes, back to basics please, simplified system and hard work

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[quote user="iron_stan"]mike phelan with coaching staff who arent all former defenders - 442 - wingers beating their man on the outside and crossing for our two expensive talented strikers to feed off with our talented dutch international midfielder making runs into the box to support them, the other midfielder sitting and helping out the back 4. Back to basics. rough and tumble with a variation of balls over the top, into space on the flanks for the pacey redmond and olsson AS well as short passing build from the back play.

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Christ. English football is doomed.

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