My_left_foot 0 Posted September 21, 2013 Enough said! How many other managers are currently still employed with a record of just 5 wins in their last 26 league games? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cerberus 0 Posted September 21, 2013 Even worse 1 goal in the last four league games - unless we sort that out we are in huge trouble Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bws Cat 0 Posted September 21, 2013 Yep. Pretty depressing stats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J 0 Posted September 21, 2013 Its funny because we have the capability to score, given the squad, but we look terrible under Hughtons non-guidance to the abyss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SeattleCanary 0 Posted September 21, 2013 It''s a results business. Enough said. I''d like a change now because the mentality seems off, and totally unlike the Norwich of recent seasons. We are where we deserve to be after these first 5 games! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jules 0 Posted September 21, 2013 Ironically I think most fans and observers are agreed that our squad is improved this season. Hughton bought well. But that has created a whole new pressure as it is definitely Hughton''s team now. The time when Hughton is naturally to be given the benefit of the doubt is running out. So if results don''t pick up it will be more clearly seen as a failure of management. I wonder if McNally will indicate to Hughton that he should go after the Ireland job. Hughton is a nice guy and if he were to get the Ireland job it would be an honourable solution for all thus avoiding any unpleasantness involved in sacking him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helsinki canary 240 Posted September 21, 2013 My guess is that Cardiff home on the 31.10 will be the make or break game from Chrissy Hughton and his jokers - win that or he will be out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,638 Posted September 21, 2013 You may be right there Helsinki, if things haven''t turned by then CH may well be off. But it does seem only fair he is given until then - for me, today showed some good signs, some just are unwilling to see past the result.[ The stat of 5 wins in 26 serves little purpose as it is over two seasons, including 20 games that aren''t ''relevant'' to where we currently sit]. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellowbeagle 0 Posted September 21, 2013 [quote user="Branston Pickle"]You may be right there Helsinki, if things haven''t turned by then CH may well be off. But it does seem only fair he is given until then - for me, today showed some good signs, some just are unwilling to see past the result. [ The stat of 5 wins in 26 serves little purpose as it is over two seasons, including 20 games that aren''t ''relevant'' to where we currently sit].[/quote]I agree, I actually thought a lot of our play was pretty good today, crosses aside. However I think people are always going to be critical if we lose a home match regardless of performance when we totally fail to show up to away games. The feeling today is made worse by the fact we now have an away match with a strong possibility we wont even go and try to win it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,424 Posted September 21, 2013 This is a scary stat. No getting away from it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland Canary 76 Posted September 21, 2013 [quote user="Yellowbeagle"][quote user="Branston Pickle"]You may be right there Helsinki, if things haven''t turned by then CH may well be off. But it does seem only fair he is given until then - for me, today showed some good signs, some just are unwilling to see past the result. [ The stat of 5 wins in 26 serves little purpose as it is over two seasons, including 20 games that aren''t ''relevant'' to where we currently sit].[/quote]I agree, I actually thought a lot of our play was pretty good today, crosses aside. However I think people are always going to be critical if we lose a home match regardless of performance when we totally fail to show up to away games. The feeling today is made worse by the fact we now have an away match with a strong possibility we wont even go and try to win it.[/quote]How can one shot on target at home against a team which has conceded in each of their last 26 PL games include any ''good signs''? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,638 Posted September 21, 2013 Just where does this one shot stat come from? It is bull: their keeper made at least 2-3 good saves + saved a pen, and was motm! It isn''t just down to shots on target in any case, though, it is more about chances created, we created more than enough to win a game today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
City Till I Die 0 Posted September 21, 2013 So I''m hearing a lot of people saying we need to give CH more than 5 games before we take action so looking at our 2013 premier league result/points, is this really good enough?? Played 23 Won 5 Drawn 8 Lost 10 Points 23 So not hard to work out average 1 point per game, Thoughts?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Houston Canary 0 Posted September 21, 2013 The penalty was 1 on net, and there was one other called a shot. Maybe Hoop''s effort wasn''t considered a shot since it basically bounced off him. But Guzan also snuffed out how many crosses, albeit soft floating ones? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellowbeagle 0 Posted September 21, 2013 [quote user="Highland Canary"][quote user="Yellowbeagle"][quote user="Branston Pickle"]You may be right there Helsinki, if things haven''t turned by then CH may well be off. But it does seem only fair he is given until then - for me, today showed some good signs, some just are unwilling to see past the result. [ The stat of 5 wins in 26 serves little purpose as it is over two seasons, including 20 games that aren''t ''relevant'' to where we currently sit].[/quote]I agree, I actually thought a lot of our play was pretty good today, crosses aside. However I think people are always going to be critical if we lose a home match regardless of performance when we totally fail to show up to away games. The feeling today is made worse by the fact we now have an away match with a strong possibility we wont even go and try to win it.[/quote] How can one shot on target at home against a team which has conceded in each of their last 26 PL games include any ''good signs''?[/quote]There was good play by us today, particularly Fer, but if you play with wingers and they dont send in decent crosses even from corners your going to struggle for shots on target. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swjf50 0 Posted September 21, 2013 and 3 goals in 5 games ! That''s not good enough by a long way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,638 Posted September 21, 2013 CTID, 20 of those results are not really relevant to this season. Of more import, surely is that we just invested £25m in the side through CH''s choices, so it surely makes some sense to give him time to get things to settle. We could have so easily seen a different scoreline today, it was certainly not a ''deserved'' defeat. There was some decent play from us and some good proper passing football, signs of things possibly moving in the right direction (other than our crossing which was generally crap). Look beyond the result sometimes, there is more to see - though as a result based business you obviously have to start delivering points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swjf50 0 Posted September 21, 2013 We''ve yet to play the top teams yet ie Man U, Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool who may carve us up, if we play like we are now.I thought we had a relatively easier start to the season particularly the first 6 games. Let''s see what we can do against Stoke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland Canary 76 Posted September 21, 2013 Branson, this is certainly the argument against change. Those that favour change would point to a continuation of our total capitulation away from home, unchanged from last season, and our inability to score a sufficient number of goals, unchanged from last season. We can''t afford to become established in the bottom three. We will lose against Stoke (because we won''t try to win); Chelsea and Arsenal will be at best challenging. Change now and we might have some new ideas for the Cardiff game, our next realistic chance of getting a win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites