BOO 0 Posted August 31, 2013 Probably a bit more disciplined, holds his position better, but all round not really an improvement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
splutcho 173 Posted August 31, 2013 Control a football Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
splutcho 173 Posted August 31, 2013 Want to be here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank shoots Skyler 2,094 Posted August 31, 2013 Holt wanted to go..How many times..?HOLT WANTED TO GOAlso in answer your question, Elmander is technically a much more gifted player, his first touch, dribbling and passing abilities are stronger than Holt''s IMOAlso Elmander was free and we got one million for Holt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jedi 0 Posted August 31, 2013 Control, pass, link up.........next??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Brownstone 0 Posted August 31, 2013 Would have liked to have seen him drop a little deeper at times, when he did we started to click. He and Ricky obviously haven''t played together much so I''m sure an understanding will develop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
im spartacus canary 0 Posted August 31, 2013 [quote user="splutcho"]Want to be here.[/quote]exactly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,756 Posted August 31, 2013 Annoy the ref. Lunging,dangerous tackling....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOO 0 Posted August 31, 2013 Poor old Holty, anyone would think that nobody rated him! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJP 79 Posted August 31, 2013 Elmander didn''t do much of anything today, he''d quite clearly run his race 10-15 minutes before he came off.I think he''ll get better though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Juggy 0 Posted August 31, 2013 What did Holty do last season which Elmander won''t do this season?That''s the better question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drurys testamonials V 15 0 Posted August 31, 2013 [quote user="splutcho"]Want to be here.[/quote] [Y] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
It's Character Forming 1,160 Posted August 31, 2013 [quote user="drurys testamonials V 15"][quote user="splutcho"]Want to be here.[/quote]Â [Y][/quote]Exactly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drurys testamonials V 15 0 Posted August 31, 2013 [quote user="The New Boy Le Juge"]What did Holty do last season which Elmander won''t do this season? That''s the better question. [/quote] Throw a tantrum when he''s subbed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted August 31, 2013 doesn''t end up on his ar$e at the merest of touches Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Brownstone 0 Posted August 31, 2013 Some really disappointing comments on this thread.Some of you should have a word with yourselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phillip J Fry 0 Posted August 31, 2013 [quote user="Mr Brownstone"]Would have liked to have seen him drop a little deeper at times, when he did we started to click. He and Ricky obviously haven''t played together much so I''m sure an understanding will develop.[/quote]Yeah, that was one of the few criticisms I have today. It''s obvious that RVW was told to play as high up as possible and that meant he didn''t see the ball too much, in situations like that you need the deeper striker to come short and offer the option, Elmander tended to to play just as high which meant we sometimes kicked the ball long when we could have kept it to build up play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hackedoff 0 Posted August 31, 2013 Stay on his feet?Not moan constantly?Look lucky to still be on the pitch? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drurys testamonials V 15 0 Posted August 31, 2013 Mr Brownstone Holty''s request to leave and make a transfer request days before Adam''s testimonial was a Thatcherite throw-back - the ''me me me'' culture. This understandably narked a number of us. Last season he then had a tantrum when he was subbed or wore a face like he was sucking a sour lemon when he was on the bench instead of starting. His attitude was he was the key man to a successful NCFC squad (but not by the number of goals he scored). This colours your view of a player IMO. Did we ever see Dion or Iwan sulk when they were subbed or on the bench at the start of a game? No. They were more professional about it and would have enhanced the dressing room with their knowledge and expertise. A sulking captain does nothing to enhance team morale. I get he wanted to play but no player is bigger than NCFC. There is no i in team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bury Yellow 2 Posted August 31, 2013 Yep really disappointing comments on Holty. Do we really have a bunch of bankers on this board?Perhaps we do but they don''t represent the vast majority of NCFC supporters.Perhaps RVW may have a chat with Holty before the season is out.This is not a criticism of Hoots as I thought we showed a lot more attitude today. Not there yet but today gave me hope and we do have some very good players in the squad.Hey fellas just leave off Holty eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
im spartacus canary 0 Posted August 31, 2013 i certainly have nothing but respect, gratitude and admiration for holty... as far as i am concerned they can commision the statue now... but in his interview on the scrimmage he said he wanted to go so thanks for everything good luck, we''ll never forget you... johann elmander wants to be here and looks pleased to be here and life goes on ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Brownstone 0 Posted August 31, 2013 You have no idea what actually happened with his transfer request.Yes, there were occasions last year where he let his frustrations get the better of him, but it certainly wasn''t because he didn''t give a s**t.Top goal scorer 4 seasons running, played a massive part in dragging us up from our lowest point in 50 years to our highest point in 20. 3 time player of the season, captain, leader legend. He deserves more respect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted August 31, 2013 [quote user="Mr Brownstone"]You have no idea what actually happened with his transfer request.Yes, there were occasions last year where he let his frustrations get the better of him, but it certainly wasn''t because he didn''t give a s**t.Top goal scorer 4 seasons running, played a massive part in dragging us up from our lowest point in 50 years to our highest point in 20. 3 time player of the season, captain, leader legend. He deserves more respect.[/quote]^^^[Y] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QHcanary 0 Posted August 31, 2013 [quote user="Mr Brownstone"]You have no idea what actually happened with his transfer request.Yes, there were occasions last year where he let his frustrations get the better of him, but it certainly wasn''t because he didn''t give a s**t.Top goal scorer 4 seasons running, played a massive part in dragging us up from our lowest point in 50 years to our highest point in 20. 3 time player of the season, captain, leader legend. He deserves more respect.[/quote]Hi Mrs Holt. We all know that your son played a massive part for Norwich City. Don''t worry about all of these comments. Most of the fans still love him. They''re just having a laugh and a joke in response to the OP''s (original poster''s) question. Possibly because they think we should never have sold him. Personally I think the time was right for him to leave, as he wanted to be closer to you and his wife and kids. I''m sure you do a cracking roast on a Sunday, so how could he stay away from that?!Just keep him off the apple pie and custard during the season! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Brownstone 0 Posted August 31, 2013 I see what you did there.Very clever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QHcanary 0 Posted August 31, 2013 Thanks Mrs H. Glad you liked it. Get the sprouts on. Don''t want ''em crunchy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,756 Posted August 31, 2013 Most importantly, exercise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Brownstone 0 Posted August 31, 2013 Those food jokes are brilliant, I particularly liked the one about apple pie. Don''t know how you do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites