ReadingCanary 0 Posted September 3, 2013 "JACOB SIGNS Boro have signed Norwich midfielder Jacob Butterfield, 23, on a 3-year contract with a further 1-year option. Details soon"To Boro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SeattleCanary 0 Posted September 3, 2013 didn''t see this. where did it pop up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJP 79 Posted September 3, 2013 Beat me to the punch. Not surprised he''s gone though, said a while back he wouldn''t make it here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReadingCanary 0 Posted September 3, 2013 Just now on boro''s twitter pageMust admit I''m surprisedWonder what they offered Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SeattleCanary 0 Posted September 3, 2013 [quote user="ReadingCanary"]Just now on boro''s twitter pageMust admit I''m surprisedWonder what they offered [/quote]I forget. Who has the authority to make the transfer fee disclosed? The selling or the buying club?Either way I hope we find out what we got. What did we pay a year a go? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SeattleCanary 0 Posted September 3, 2013 *undisclosed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lincoln canary (& Golden Coppel) 0 Posted September 3, 2013 Why on earth did we let another player leave without a replacement? Hughton has been sayin for weeks that''s he''s down on squad numbers compared with last year. Selling butterfield makes no sence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,717 Posted September 3, 2013 Will he get voted onto the Hall of Fame?Goodbye Jacob. We knew you so well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,314 Posted September 3, 2013 Tempted to say good riddance but perhaps a bit harsh.Brought nothing to the cub in his time with us and came across as a bit of a tw*t to be honest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bws Cat 0 Posted September 3, 2013 "Why on earth did we let another player leave without a replacement? Hughton has been sayin for weeks that''s he''s down on squad numbers compared with last year. Selling butterfield makes no sence."Hughton out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waveney Canary 0 Posted September 3, 2013 He added nothing to the club took a wage and hardly played hughton didn''t fancy him so best for all parties to get shot of him. Hughton out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted September 3, 2013 [quote user="lincoln canary"]Why on earth did we let another player leave without a replacement? Hughton has been sayin for weeks that''s he''s down on squad numbers compared with last year. Selling butterfield makes no sence.[/quote]Of course it makes sense; Howson, Hoolahan, Fer, Elmander and probably Hooper are all more likely to play in the role supporting RvW than Butterfield is - his chance of getting a game at Norwich is tiny. Norwich now don''t have to pay his wages and actually managed to get a fee for him, a great bit of business considering how little football he has played for almost 2 years now. Norwich''s squad was too big last year, hence the reason a lot of players were sent out on loan, even at 24/25 players some might consider that a little large - there is plenty of cover for every position (apart from maybe right wing) so it''s good to clear some of the deadwood out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,722 Posted September 3, 2013 [quote user="lincoln canary"]Why on earth did we let another player leave without a replacement? Hughton has been sayin for weeks that''s he''s down on squad numbers compared with last year. Selling butterfield makes no sence.[/quote]Why would we need to replace a player who never played ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicko 0 Posted September 3, 2013 We had to pay a few million to Barnsley at tribunal didn''t we? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted September 3, 2013 [quote user="Nicko"]We had to pay a few million to Barnsley at tribunal didn''t we?[/quote] Doubt it would be so high, compensation agreements are generally weighted around apperance fees, obviously would have paid very little in those. I expect Barnsley will get a cut in the money Norwich get from Middlesborough, but the most important thing is getting an unwanted player off the wage bill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,554 Posted September 3, 2013 [quote user="Bethnal Yellow and Green"][quote user="Nicko"]We had to pay a few million to Barnsley at tribunal didn''t we?[/quote] Doubt it would be so high, compensation agreements are generally weighted around apperance fees, obviously would have paid very little in those. I expect Barnsley will get a cut in the money Norwich get from Middlesborough, but the most important thing is getting an unwanted player off the wage bill.[/quote] It didn''t go to a tribunal. We made what Barnsley said was an insultingly low offer, and when it was heading for a tribunal we suddenly upped the offer. The implication was that we were worried that - unusually - a tribunal might side with the selling club. From memory the final figure being talked about was around £750,000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted September 3, 2013 [quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="Bethnal Yellow and Green"][quote user="Nicko"]We had to pay a few million to Barnsley at tribunal didn''t we?[/quote] Doubt it would be so high, compensation agreements are generally weighted around apperance fees, obviously would have paid very little in those. I expect Barnsley will get a cut in the money Norwich get from Middlesborough, but the most important thing is getting an unwanted player off the wage bill.[/quote] It didn''t go to a tribunal. We made what Barnsley said was an insultingly low offer, and when it was heading for a tribunal we suddenly upped the offer. The implication was that we were worried that - unusually - a tribunal might side with the selling club. From memory the final figure being talked about was around £750,000.[/quote] Wonder if McNally was worried that the FA were sick of seeing him at tribunals... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0ridgemanddMMyyyy0Falseen-USTrue 0 Posted September 3, 2013 Lat season it was reported that the Butterfield deal was started under the Lambert regime and that Hughton would be allowed to let him go if he didn''t feel he wanted him. Signed as an attacking midfielder I feel that Butterfield could have been good under Lambert but under the more cautious current manager there was no place for him. It wasn''t Butterfields fault the way things happened lets just wish him good luck. He took a wage because the club wanted to sign him I still feel he can make it under the right manager. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
havemyhowsonit 0 Posted September 3, 2013 Who is Jacob butterfield???Is he the new Paul Gascogne???Well at least he''s in the right area to hit the bars Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted September 3, 2013 [quote user="ridgeman"]Last season it was reported that the Butterfield deal was started under the Lambert regime and that Hughton would be allowed to let him go if he didn''t feel he wanted him. Signed as an attacking midfielder I feel that Butterfield could have been good under Lambert but under the more cautious current manager there was no place for him. It wasn''t Butterfields fault the way things happened lets just wish him good luck. He took a wage because the club wanted to sign him I still feel he can make it under the right manager.[/quote] Whilst driving down to Norwich for his unveiling Jacob Butterfield did a phone interview with Radio Sheffield to talk about him signing for Norwich (before Norwich had announced the deal, showing the intelligence of the guy) and he said that he had agreed the deal whilst Lambert was at the club and although it was strange to be signing for a different manager he didn''t mind (blah, blah, blah). From the moment he stepped through the door at Norwich he was never really wanted and his fleeting apperances show this never really changed. Will be interesting to see how he does at Middlesborough as he was highly rated at Barnsley, although only really impressed for a brief spell before getting injured. My predicition for his future career is on a trajectory like Jason Shakell''s, good championship player but will never really make the step up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Brownstone 0 Posted September 3, 2013 [quote user="Bethnal Yellow and Green"][quote user="ridgeman"]Last season it was reported that the Butterfield deal was started under the Lambert regime and that Hughton would be allowed to let him go if he didn''t feel he wanted him. Signed as an attacking midfielder I feel that Butterfield could have been good under Lambert but under the more cautious current manager there was no place for him. It wasn''t Butterfields fault the way things happened lets just wish him good luck. He took a wage because the club wanted to sign him I still feel he can make it under the right manager.[/quote] Whilst driving down to Norwich for his unveiling Jacob Butterfield did a phone interview with Radio Sheffield to talk about him signing for Norwich (before Norwich had announced the deal, showing the intelligence of the guy) and he said that he had agreed the deal whilst Lambert was at the club and although it was strange to be signing for a different manager he didn''t mind (blah, blah, blah). From the moment he stepped through the door at Norwich he was never really wanted and his fleeting apperances show this never really changed. Will be interesting to see how he does at Middlesborough as he was highly rated at Barnsley, although only really impressed for a brief spell before getting injured. My predicition for his future career is on a trajectory like Jason Shakell''s, good championship player but will never really make the step up.[/quote] Careful, you''l have his Mum after you... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardhouse44 261 Posted September 3, 2013 I can''t help thinking Butterfield was an in case we go down signing. Good in the championship and likely to stay and play at that level. We have grown faster than even the wisest of club officials thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted September 3, 2013 I kinda feel sorry for the guy.He was signed as Lambert was heading for the exit, must have been pretty excited about the future and the chance for playing in the premiership.Hughton didn''t really rate him and the dream turned sour somewhat.Fair play to him for sticking it out and trying to get in the team... best for all parties that he moves on though now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Mass Debater 1,078 Posted September 3, 2013 So will we rue the day we let Jacob Butterfield go do people think (ie will his career resurface with a good run at a lower level). We''ve been pretty patient with him so I dont really see how the club could realisitcally have not sold him, but with such a reputation, you really wonder if we might one day regret this. I wonder if it was just a case of him never quite being the same player after such a bad injury. Such a shame we never really got a chance to see what he could do Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,509 Posted September 3, 2013 [^o)]I''m surprised he didn''t go to Villa........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warren Hill 0 Posted September 3, 2013 Jacob Butterfield, Lambert''s parting gift. We should try and claim the fee and wages we wasted back off St Paul.....thank god Howghton can pick a player.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJP 79 Posted September 3, 2013 [quote user="The Great Mass Debater"]So will we rue the day we let Jacob Butterfield but with such a reputation, you really wonder if we might one day regret this. [/quote] No. What is his reputation? He had a few good months for Barnsley and it seems to me that fans have got a bit carried away with it. If he was as good as all the hype then we''d have given him more of a look in. I don''t think we''re in a position to overlook outstandingly talented young players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warren Hill 0 Posted September 3, 2013 [quote user="GJP"][quote user="The Great Mass Debater"]So will we rue the day we let Jacob Butterfield but with such a reputation, you really wonder if we might one day regret this. [/quote] No. What is his reputation? He had a few good months for Barnsley and it seems to me that fans have got a bit carried away with it. If he was as good as all the hype then we''d have given him more of a look in. I don''t think we''re in a position to overlook outstandingly talented young players.[/quote] It''s interesting. Is it only at Norwich that players seem to vastly improve for not actually playing? Cody Mac, Marc Tierney, David Fox, Jacob Butterfield....? Fox can probably feel a bit hard done by to be on the list but the way some were talking about him last season he''d become Andres Iniesta. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dpit 1 Posted September 3, 2013 So. Farewell then Jacob ButterfieldSomeone said you were quite good.I think you had a beard like Bradley.But I''m not sure."Why am I here?''" was your catchphrase.EJ Thribb (17 1/2) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CambridgeCanary 0 Posted September 3, 2013 Yes of course. Let''s have a go at Hughton for being defensive and not fancying the attacking brilliance that Jacob brought to us shall we? Too pat. too easy, too predictable and frankly, too Paul Moy. I would be impressed by this argument if when in his loan spells in Championship, Jacob had done well. Sadly that was not the case. Even though he helped Palace towards promotion, the ever desperate Holloway never wanted to keep him. In that respect he did less well than Chris Martin and Korey Smith. Perhaps in his injury he lost something. Players do. We have never been so blessed that a good player cannot come through at City and he did not make it in two seasons. It is one of those things. I wish him well. But, I do not see how this is down to Hughton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites