City' is a lousy identity

[Bill 1,788]

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[quote user="City1st"]maybe you are both the same person, the drivel is the samehouston bleats on about something I never said, then next up you pop doing the much same I am perfectly aware of brand identity, I was merely asking what relevance these names had to the uk market

ps try replying to what I actually posted next time [/quote]

 

Come on, City1st, wise up. Your question was, "To what end?" I answered your question before you asked it. If you had read what I posted you would not need to ask dumb questions. The relevance of branding is important all over the world. You did not mention the UK market in your first response to my post which is why I did not address it. You only brought it up to me in your last post. Does that explain it for you or do you need more help?  In any event, the UK market is a narrow perspective. The global market is where the opportunity is for building significant increase in revenue as far as football is concerned, which is why some of the ways to seek greater attention is being employed by clubs of lesser stature than the four obvious ones you mention. Whether you agree with it or not is, quite frankly, irrelevant. You are not the owner of any club that chooses to pursue innovation.

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dearie, dear mewhat a load of old sh ite you write - why not simply answer the question ?as to tacking the word Tiger on to Hull City''s name being ''innovation'', then you clearly live in a parallel universe

[Lets be aving you! 0]

Hull seem a bit like us in that their nickname arose purely from the club''s colours.

 

Beyond that, it strikes someone like me as a bit ludicrous how a cold northern English town known mainly for its ugliness, unemployment and obesity and an obscure connection with Philip Larkin can in any way be linked to "Tigers" other than as an attempt to shift a few football shirts in Asia.

 

After all, "Eldrick Tont Woods" didn''t market as well as "Tiger" Woods.

 

Heck, why not go all the way and move home games to a big stadium in London and market the club to rich foreigners? And park a big statue of some pop idol who''s big in China or Indonesia inside the stadium, Fulham style.

 

Not being anti-American, but I do wonder what would happen if rich Asians suddenly became interested in American baseball and wanted to market it to Asia?

 

The Detroit Tigers wouldn''t need to fear about any of their identity suddenly disappearing.

 

But the Houston Astros sounds pretty meaningless to the average Joe, sorry Mohammad, and would need to redubbed the Houston Panthers.

 

Ditto the meaningless-sounding St Louis Cardinals, the Philadelphia Phillies, and the Minnesota Twins. And as for the Baltimore Orioles, that sounds plain pornographic. Asians wouldn''t care cents, sorry two won, about the origins or cultural associations of those names, so should just ship them out for a few sexy-sounding jungle animals.

 

[Budapest Canary 152]

The reason why Hull City Tigers seems to be a counter-productive brand name, because it is not only alien from the English football traditions, but even globally there are few football clubs to follow this pattern: apart from a few J-League, and MLS sides I''m hardly aware any football club to use it. As a result, people might not associate Hull with football, or with England, as the name will suggest a rugby or basketball team.

[Making Plans 936]

At the end of the day, simply changing the Club name will not make one jot of difference to their appeal, their support, their success or their finances. You cannot make a silk purse out of a pig''s ear.So they may have got a bit of free publicity for a couple of days but it will all be forgotten, except by their long life fans, when the dust settles and the football starts. Then, it will only be what happens on the pitch that matters.It''s all a waste of time & completely pointless and why these so called successful businessmen fail to engage their brains & feel the need to meddle with things, when they take on a football club, is beyond me.

[Houston Canary 0]

Let''s be,

Tigers do very well in cold climates.

Our name is not from the colors. The colors come from the name which is based on canary raising being a very popular hobby especially among Flemish immigrants to the area around about the time the team started.

How about that!?!? The American knows more about the HISTORY of our team than the local lad who''s worried about preserving sports history. Go figure!

[GenerationA47 751]

Houston, you naughty person. I said "The canary nickname has been synonymous with our club for most of its history, but we were originally nicknamed ''the Citizens'' and the bird badge itself was adopted only after our change to a yellow & green kit." I''m well aware of the Norwich/canary connection and the link with the kit colours. Go figure yourself! With the greatest respect :-p

 

[Lets be aving you! 0]

You''re right, of course, GenerationA47.

 

Houston''s comments, aimed at me, play fast and loose with a few details.

 

My understanding is that our original official nickname was "the Citizens". We then changed colours to yellow and green. But there was no change in OFFICIAL nickname till after this (the Norwich manager of the day had certainly referred to the players as his "little canaries", but this designation was not laid down on high as an official nickname by the McNally of the day, or by anyone else). The Wikipedia article on Norwich City merely refers to ''Canaries'' being "in vogue" as a sobriquet in 1907.

 

The club was also once ''known'' as "the Mustard Men", through the link with Colmans, a name that would have been used by fans and journalists, but again not an official nickname.

 

The bird badge itself did not appear until 1922.

 

[Houston Canary 0]

What part of my comment about the team colors, nickname Canaries, and tigers'' natural habitat was fast and loose with the facts?

I didn''t need to Wiki my comments re:us, either. I did only to check on Hull''s nickname only to find out its been Tigers for ages, making the fuss ovrr teesking the name all that more silly.