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Looks like it's Elmander!

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http://www.caughtoffside.com/2013/08/16/johan-elmander-reveals-probable-norwich-city-move-via-twitter-account/?

He wouldn''t just put that on if the deal wasn''t 99% complete

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[quote user="Jimmy Smith"]Glad you said that! Nearly plundered £20 on it hoping for a near certain £44 return! I got stung for a tenner in January with Hooper.[/quote]
Of course if it turns out to be a genuine account and somebody is just tweeting his thoughts for him in Turkish.  Jas will pay you the £24 difference.[:D]

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[quote user="Jimmy Smith"]To be honest, even if it is fake, there is documented interest, it could go either way.[/quote]

 

Has there been documented interest? There may have been, but I''ve seen none.

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Bit of a weird one this..

At first I saw 134k followers, and thought this must be his real twitter account - cos 134k is a shitload of followers. But then I searched his name in Twitter and there are about 20 Johan Elmander accounts, most purporting to be him. So it could just be a very popular fake.

But then I thought, wouldn''t other swedish footballers like Martin Ohlsson, John Guidetti or Kevin Davies his Bolton teammate, be following him if he''s on Twitter?

Well they''re not, so I conclude it is a fake.

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That turkish paper said Elmander is one of 6 foreigners going. I suppose ''documented interest'' is poorly worded but there is a seemingly strong link.

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Possibly a link that is starting to build up a head of steam. 32 but I suspect would cost little or nothing  other than wages. He would no doubt give us options off the bench and has a good track record. He left Bolton after getting about 15 goals and the next season they went down. Still gets a game for Sweden and has 18 international goals. I don''t think we need another striker to push Hooper and RVW, more have a competent person as cover and to change the shape of the game from the bench. He is in the Holt style and 6ft 2ins.If he had been 3 or 4 years younger we would be getting quite excited. If he comes I think he will play a valuable albeit bit part role. If he can come on and get the odd winner or leveller it would be great

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[quote user="Yorkshire Canary"]Possibly a link that is starting to build up a head of steam. 32 but I suspect would cost little or nothing  other than wages. He would no doubt give us options off the bench and has a good track record. He left Bolton after getting about 15 goals and the next season they went down. Still gets a game for Sweden and has 18 international goals. I don''t think we need another striker to push Hooper and RVW, more have a competent person as cover and to change the shape of the game from the bench. He is in the Holt style and 6ft 2ins.If he had been 3 or 4 years younger we would be getting quite excited. If he comes I think he will play a valuable albeit bit part role. If he can come on and get the odd winner or leveller it would be great[/quote]I think you''re right Yorkshire, he''d definitley do a job and be a good squad player. Has Premier League experience too. Won''t get too excited or downhearted if he does or doesn''t sign, but it makes a change from hearing the same things about Quagliarella. [:)]

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"If he comes I think he will play a valuable albeit bit part role"

eh !

we are bringing in players to play a ''bit part role'' ?

dear god

you have to wonder what planet some are on

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[quote user="Jimmy Smith"]That turkish paper said Elmander is one of 6 foreigners going. I suppose ''documented interest'' is poorly worded but there is a seemingly strong link.[/quote]

 

I wouldn''t say there has been anything like a strong link. And I would be very surprised if we were seriously interested in Elmander, apart from as a fall-back close to the end of the transfer window if we miss out on our preferred targets.

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[quote user="City1st"]"If he comes I think he will play a valuable albeit bit part role"

eh !

we are bringing in players to play a ''bit part role'' ?

dear god

you have to wonder what planet some are on

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I took it he meant a super sub type player.  Come off the bench and change the game if needed.

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[quote user="City1st"]"If he comes I think he will play a valuable albeit bit part role"

eh !

we are bringing in players to play a ''bit part role'' ?

dear god

you have to wonder what planet some are on

[/quote]I expect that the management team at FCR are looking to bring in different players to do different jobs. If you have 3 or 4 star strikers, all with star striker egos, vying for 1 starting position, 1 or 2 of them are going to be very unhappy. Experienced international players that are reaching the twilight of their careers should bring bags of experience, advice for the youngsters like Carlton Morris and are expected to chip in with the odd vital goal here and there. RVW, Hooper, Becchio, Elmander and Morris, would on paper, look a far stronger attacking force than Holt, Morrison, Jackson, Martin and Vaughan.

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Some people need a reality check.

He would be a decent short term signing for us. Do people really think wevare going to spend £3 or 4 m on another good striker to warm the bench and expect them to stay happy?

Holt would have been that man had he been happy to do so......and he wasnt.

We need someone better than bechio imho

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I am genuinely puzzled, just what is wrong with bringing a player into the squad who may end up having a "bit part"? 

Football is not just about the eleven who start the game, its about the mix of the squad, and all clube will definately have players in their squads who are not expected to be regular starters. They may have a more specialised role that means they start just a few games or even be signed becasue they are ideal to bring on later in a game, to change the game as part of a change of shape or tactic.

Clearly we have two quality new signings who will generally share the responsibility up front, probably usually playing as a one up front and I guess occasionally as part of a two. We then have Becchio who can cover for these two (who will also be a valuable "bit part" player) and then what do we have? So, it would be ideal to have a different type of front man as an option sat on the bench, wouldnt it?.......and this guy would certainly be ideal for that role if we are unable to secure your prime targets right now. He has plenty of experience both in the Premier League, at some big clubs abroad and at international level, who know''s he may start as a regular substitute, impress so much that he starts to get regular starts.

Other "bit part" players in our squad, all of who will play a very valuable "bit part", some of whom were signed to be "bit part" squad members, some who were regulars have been over taken by others in the squad or new signings are......Bunn, Fox, E.Bennett, Becchio (already mentioned), Whittaker (once Bassong is back probably), R.Bennett, and any other member of the squad who makes something like less than 10 appearances or perhaps more.....lets just call them "squad players" who will all play their part in a long season.......thats a good idea.....

 

    

 

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absolute nonsensegoalkeepers aren''t bit part players, there is only one keeper in a game so there will always be two not playing - that is not bit part"some of whom were signed to be "bit part" squad members"that''s even more absurd twaddle

we currently have one space left in the squad, we do not have the space or money for any ''bit part'', ''part time'', ''might do a job when we are stuck'', ''could help out with the bibs'' etc type of playersthis blokes name has only come up because he isn''t wanted where he iswhereas our other signings have pretty much been players who were still wanted at their clubs and have been brought in not only because they are good enough to play full time, but because they will also develop with the clubplayers such as Fox and Peayalla, who apparently have dropped away, will be replaced at some time by players of the above quality and potential - not by misfits that have overexcited the usual dimwitted numpties

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Looks like this transfer may have happened tonight?

a quick twitter search of the word "Elmander" reveals hundreds of Galatasaray fans writing good luck an farewell messages......they can''t all be wrong or fooled by a fake account?

looks like its a free transfer too.................decent signing for a free but the flip side might well mean the end of the pusuit of Quagliarella and almost certainly Toivenen.

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Bit of a comedown really , we spend weeks chasing a top striker and end up with a 32 year old on a free . Has to be far better out there than this guy .

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[quote user="Prem1"]Bit of a comedown really , we spend weeks chasing a top striker and end up with a 32 year old on a free . Has to be far better out there than this guy .[/quote]

i suspect we may have sold one of the same age to Wigan?................BUT if Elmander can play in a slightly deeper role and his height and presence can take a bit of pressure of RVW/Hooper, whichever is playing the more advanced role, he might be useful.......

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IF true it''s a good bit of business.  We need another striker and one such as Elmander, who isn''t going to be a regular starter, on a free is good business.

 

I also don''t think this would mean that the search for a CAM is over and I''d also like to see us sign a CB.

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[quote user="City1st"]absolute nonsensegoalkeepers aren''t bit part players, there is only one keeper in a game so there will always be two not playing - that is not bit part"some of whom were signed to be "bit part" squad members"that''s even more absurd twaddle

we currently have one space left in the squad, we do not have the space or money for any ''bit part'', ''part time'', ''might do a job when we are stuck'', ''could help out with the bibs'' etc type of playersthis blokes name has only come up because he isn''t wanted where he iswhereas our other signings have pretty much been players who were still wanted at their clubs and have been brought in not only because they are good enough to play full time, but because they will also develop with the clubplayers such as Fox and Peayalla, who apparently have dropped away, will be replaced at some time by players of the above quality and potential - not by misfits that have overexcited the usual dimwitted numpties

[/quote]So what would your suggestion be, see if we can sign another top international striker coming into his prime? Have him playing for the development squad where he''s not improving as a top player, wait until he puts his parts on and poisons 1/2 of the 1st team squad, get relegated and ship him out at a £4m loss?Ridiculous.Is it not better to have a proven international, with bags of experience, happy to play the Wilbraham/Svensson/Scholes bit part role, who can help the younger players, score the odd important goal and if our 2 star strikers are both out for an extended time together will do an ample job deputising?

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City 1st, cant talk your way out of this one..... just admit you are wrong and move on........ this is just about what words are used to describe a player who is in the squad yet doesnt make many appearances, sometimes it can be intentional as he has been signed as a squad player and not first choice........it is possible that sometimes others will disagree with you and that sometimes you will be wrong....... I will not be replying any further on this, as like many other posters I am sick of those on here who seem to want to continually pick arguments and label others opinions as "twaddle" and similar.....when they of course talk sense all the time...... 

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[quote user="Prem1"]Bit of a comedown really , we spend weeks chasing a top striker and end up with a 32 year old on a free . Has to be far better out there than this guy .[/quote]

Elmander really isnt that bad player. but I doubt he was hunted for the same role as Toivonen and Quags. Do we see a signing for that role in this window is different case, but as Hughton doesnt seem to trust Becchio at all Elmander for free and with rumoured wage would be decent signing. even if it isnt most exiting.

I would have been happy with our current striker trio, but Elmander is a good team player to have and with his strengh he could be very useful during last 20 minutes or fighting for points when behind or keeping ball up. Not over to moon if we sign him, but I respect the player enough to understand he would be quite a big leap from Becchio.

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City 1st....youre as bad as my ex missus finding fault with other peoples

comments and then saying the same sort of stuff yourself

goalkeepers aren''t bit part players, there is only one keeper in a game

so there will always be two not playing - that is not bit part

So what about subs? Injuries? Why have we got 3 senior people on the

books. Nash is by very definition "bit part" but may - or may not - play this

season

we currently have one space left in the squad, we do not have the space

or money for any ''bit part'', ''part time'', ''might do a job when we are stuck'',

''could help out with the bibs
'' etc type of players

Its a squad game. Some of the 25 will not feature more than a few minutes

over the course of the season. Some may not even feature other than to take a

regular place on the bench and as such they will probably spend more time with

the bibs in your words....

this blokes name has only come up because he isn''t wanted where he

iswhereas our other signings have pretty much been players who were

still wanted at their clubs and have been brought in not only because they are

good enough to play full time, but because they will also develop with the

club

Possibly. But remember that we only got The Wolf because Sporting were skint

and we waved shedloads of money under their nose. Fer was seen as a possible

injury liability by other Prem clubs. Hooper moved because he basically told

Celtic he didnt want to spend more time North of the Border and the only other

option was QPR. In fairness to Elmander if that IS his comment on Twitter (and

appreciate there is plenty of doubt) then he clearly wants to come and play for

us. That makes him more hungry to prove a point that Quagliarella, Alderweild,

Toivonen et al

players such as Fox and Peayalla, who apparently have dropped away, will

be replaced at some time by players of the above quality and potential - not by

misfits that have overexcited the usual dimwitted numpties

Thats progress. Eventually (hopefully) we will look to replace Fer,

Wolfswinkel, Hooper etc with whoever is deemed to be "Champions League" level at

the time. We are looking to push on and this bloke will be of a level to help

us to do that. He''s the next level up from Becchio - who is probably going to

find City''s level has pushed above his own in a shorter timeframe than many will

have thought (I think Becchio actually came here with the club having one eye on

the Championship). I think we''re now looking to do more than just survive -

remit this season has to be comfortable midtable and a cup run based on what

we''re spending. "Little Norwich" is now a thing of the past although it has to

be said not for many journalists and TV pundits....

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