Webbo118 0 Posted August 2, 2013 [quote user="Alex "]Interestingly enough AVB doesn''t rate Dawson, but Hughton certainly does. Wages are a problem though...[/quote] That''s why he made him his captain presumably? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted August 2, 2013 [quote user="Webbo118"][quote user="Alex "]Interestingly enough AVB doesn''t rate Dawson, but Hughton certainly does. Wages are a problem though...[/quote] That''s why he made him his captain presumably?[/quote] Made him captain and then promptly tried to sell him to QPR and then played him for most games last season. A strange state of affairs, but AVB would certainly prefer a CB who is happy with the ball at his feet, which isn''t Dawson''s style so much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Mass Debater 1,090 Posted August 2, 2013 Some quotes on Twitter alleged to be attributed to Alderweireld:"I''ve said if before: a really nice club has to come to take me away from here. Only if I can make a step forward I''ll leave." "Ajax is a club with a worldwide reputation. I play football for 50.000 fans every week and I''m assured of CL-football." Alderweireld says there are still enough goals for him: improving in the CL, 4th title in a row. "I can write history with De Jong&Eriksen." We''re screwed if he values Champions League football that much (who wouldnt). He wouldnt write history with us either. Best shot we have of getting this chap is convinving him he needs a stepping stone in England to earn a move to a champions league club, but that clearly wont work as he''ll feel he''s proven enough.Interestingly though, if European football is important to him, that also rules Liverpool out. At least for this season... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted August 2, 2013 Alderweireld is starting for Ajax tonight in their first league game of the season - although that isn''t a massive surprise as both he and the club have both said they are happy for him to be playing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary On The Wire 0 Posted August 2, 2013 We just aren''t signing him. It''s great seeing us attempt to cherry pick in Europe''s top leagues and in some cases succeed (Fer, RvW et al)- but in this case we''ve bitten off more than we can chew. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilksfanclub 0 Posted August 2, 2013 Holland is hardly one of Europe''s top leagues. I agree though from the outset thought it was unlikely and so it has proven. Would also point out could still do with a centre half unless Ryan Bennett gets a fair bit better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan_Grey 0 Posted August 2, 2013 [quote user="pilksfanclub"]Holland is hardly one of Europe''s top leagues. I agree though from the outset thought it was unlikely and so it has proven. Would also point out could still do with a centre half unless Ryan Bennett gets a fair bit better[/quote]http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/country/index.htmlDutch league is number 9 in Europe according to the official rankings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Webbo118 0 Posted August 2, 2013 [quote user="Bethnal Yellow and Green"][quote user="Webbo118"] [quote user="Alex "]Interestingly enough AVB doesn''t rate Dawson, but Hughton certainly does. Wages are a problem though...[/quote] That''s why he made him his captain presumably?[/quote] Made him captain and then promptly tried to sell him to QPR and then played him for most games last season. A strange state of affairs, but AVB would certainly prefer a CB who is happy with the ball at his feet, which isn''t Dawson''s style so much.[/quote] You seem to have a very close relationship with AVB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redders Right Foot 22 Posted August 2, 2013 I feel like a selfish, unrealistic child but...I want Toby at Norwich and I want him here NOW!!!! :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S10 Canary 0 Posted August 5, 2013 Looks like Everton have waded in too...http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2013/08/05/4166394/- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Masked Raccoon 0 Posted August 5, 2013 Alan_grey wrote: http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/country/index.htmlDon''t show that to any Celtic/Scotland fan - total points over 5 seasons only just beats our worst single season. Players do take/see opportunities, Hooper did it for us. Why not another with a good lure? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeelansGlove 0 Posted August 5, 2013 Seems about right Scotland in at 24. Although I guess this is based on history so likely they will slip a few places now they are at the lowest ebb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetteys Jig 830 Posted August 5, 2013 Shows nothing about strength in depth though. I bet a league consisting of our lower half premiership teams versus them from Spain, we''d walk it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Move Klose 303 Posted August 5, 2013 Supposedly his agent has come out and said its not true and everton havent made an approach. Follow babette van haren on twitter. Shes an dutch journalist who seems to have good links, especially with ajax. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Move Klose 303 Posted August 5, 2013 @babettevhaaren Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Juggy 0 Posted August 5, 2013 I would love this player here, would be a massive coup and potentially the best signing of all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoddys Jockstrap 0 Posted August 5, 2013 everton have made an offer for him. not looking good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yorkshire Canary 118 Posted August 5, 2013 Looks like the lad may be getting what he wants ie a move to a bigger more established EPL club. Great shame as he would have been one of ourstand out signings in what are already a very impressive list this summer. Not over yet but looking that way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Macey 5 Posted August 5, 2013 Would have been fantastic but you can understand why he wanted to wait to see what happens, after all he is good enough for one of the big teams and he obviously knows it.I just hope we have some plan B''s lined up because I fear for our defence if Bassong is missing for any of the games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lappinitup 629 Posted August 5, 2013 [quote user="Eadie4England"]Supposedly his agent has come out and said its not true and everton havent made an approach. Follow babette van haren on twitter. Shes an dutch journalist who seems to have good links, especially with ajax.[/quote]Babette van Haaren @BabettevHaaren 1h Vic Alderweireld, Toby''s dad: "We''ve heard from various sources that Everton are interested. Officially, there hasn''t been any contact yet.Andy Evans @canaries2k11 1h @BabettevHaaren possibly Norwich bound I hopeBabette van Haaren @BabettevHaaren 1h @canaries2k11 No, he has turned down Norwich.Andy Evans @canaries2k11 1h @BabettevHaaren so in that case the rumours he spent two nights in Norwich were false and that his dad has recommended us to him?Babette van Haaren @BabettevHaaren 56m @canaries2k11 Yes. He has never been in Norwich. Can''t remember this quotes from his dad but Toby said he turned NCFC down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redders Right Foot 22 Posted August 5, 2013 She''s a dutch journalist student who supports Ajax. I would be shocked if she had any reliable links, but may be worth keeping an eye on her for developments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samwam27 527 Posted August 5, 2013 If you were an oversees player, would you go for what the history of a club (e.g. Everton are more famous than us) or it''s current status (e.g. they have a brand new manager with not exactly a great track record and guarantees they will be successful)Either presents a risk. Has the purposrted everton bid been accepted? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Macey 5 Posted August 5, 2013 [quote user="Samwam27"]If you were an oversees player, would you go for what the history of a club (e.g. Everton are more famous than us) or it''s current status (e.g. they have a brand new manager with not exactly a great track record and guarantees they will be successful)Either presents a risk. Has the purposrted everton bid been accepted? [/quote]This is what has been said on the sky sports transfer news page under the "Roberto Martinez: Hopes fans will be patient with Gerard Deulofeu" post.Ajax defender Toby Alderweireld''s agent Soren Lerby has confirmed that Martinez has made an approach for the 24-year-old Belgian."It''s true that Everton have made an approach for Alderweireld," Lerby is quoted in Belgian newspaper Gazet van Antwerpen."But there are other concrete options. Toby will now have to decide which team he sees as the biggest challenge." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yorkshire Canary 118 Posted August 5, 2013 Did Toby play against us in the friendly v Ajax last summer, i went but cannot remember. It would be ironic if we saw him first game of the season but in an Everton shirt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeelansGlove 0 Posted August 5, 2013 Don''t forget they are skint (just look at the state of Goodison) until they sell Baines or Fellaini I doubt they coud even compete with us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thas a rummun 2 Posted August 5, 2013 [quote user="Yorkshire Canary"]Did Toby play against us in the friendly v Ajax last summer[/quote]He was an unused substitute.[url]http://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/norwich-city-fc/photo_gallery_norwich_city_1_ajax_1_1_1466506[/url] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tangible Fixed Assets anyone? 0 Posted August 5, 2013 [quote user="KeelansGlove"]Don''t forget they are skint (just look at the state of Goodison) until they sell Baines or Fellaini I doubt they coud even compete with us.[/quote]Good point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yelloow Since 72 54 Posted August 5, 2013 I think that this is what is so impressive about this summer. Fulham wanted Toivonen but could only bid £2m for him. City seem to have moved up the league spending wise, and that in itself is exciting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yorkshire Canary 118 Posted August 8, 2013 About 3 or 4 days ago all the media speculation was about him going to Everton, but since then it has gone dead so far as he is concerned. Everton will do well to hang on the Baines and fellani and possibly Toby and his dad who seem shrewd customers may yet think Everton is a club in slow decline and we are a club on the rise we will see Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 0 Posted August 8, 2013 I think the lull may be more to do with the ongoing transfer sagas at Liverpool and Spurs.Both of which stand more of a chance of a top 6 finish than us or Everton realistically.What does baffle me a little is how people perceive Toby to be a jolly good chap and that it is understandable that he is holding on to see of other, more successful teams come in for him with the possibility of European football. But they don''t see Toivonen in the same light.To me it is exactly the same situation. Both players have not said no - so far as we know. Both players have aspirations to be playing as high up any given league as possible and so both are holding out for what could be a great deal, and possibly one of the biggest moves of their careers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites