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BroadstairsR, May 8, 2013 in Main Discussion - Norwich City
[quote user="Orford65"]Bet Manure are glad they did''nt dump Fergie when his team was struggling after he took over![/quote]
Ye Gods! are you seriously comparing the two?
[quote user="Norwich or die tryin"]Wigan loose one game and people are backing this muppet up again![/quote]
It makes you weep doesn''t it?
IF we stay up it''ll be despite him not because of him, the same crew who backed Worthy until the bitter end are doing the same with Hughton.
They make me vomit!
Oh yeah because it was a field of roses when Worthy got pushed out wasn''t it...... and this same crew you are talking about are also the one''s who didn''t claim their rebate upon relegation which helped us buy Grant Holt who ultimately fired us in to the premiership..... the same negative people on here were refusing to "give the club any more of their money"
It shows that we''ve spent the second least amount of money and that we''ve recouped the second least amount of money.
I''d say that it was fairly predictable. Where is the revelation?
[quote user="Indy_Bones"][quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"]No idea about wages, I imagine we are the lowest, or at least close... but how about this for transfers: http://transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/transfer-league-table-last-five-seasons.html[/quote]With an estimated 41 mil a season, then wages wise, only Southampton, Wigan (37 mil each), Reading and Swansea (34 mil each) are paying less than we are annually.Next up are WBA with 48 mil, Villa are on 75 mil and at the top it''s unsurprisingly Man City with 200 mil!The full list is here:[url]http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/latest-news/wage-and-the-premier-league-scaled-table[/url][/quote]
Those figures are from last season or based on guesswork - I''m 90% sure Southampton wages will be higher than that now, considering the addition of players like Ramires.
That is interesting. I''m a little surprised that we are apparently paying more than Wigan and Southampton but..
So on wages at least, our current position is bang on. Villa''s bill is nearly double ours though for 2 points more, so if we are performing as expected, they are massively underachieving. Of course wages only tell part of the story as people like Bent are going to be on huge wages and he has hardly kicked a ball..that''s up to the manager though, isn''t it?[;)]
So on wages at least, our current position is bang on. Villa''s bill is nearly double ours though for 2 points more, so if we are performing as expected, they are massively underachieving. Of course wages only tell part of the story as people like Bent are going to be on huge wages and he has hardly kicked a ball..that''s up to the manager though, isn''t it?[;)][/quote]
That was one of the key areas that Lerner wanted Lambert to fix apparently, which is why we''ve seen so many younger players this season as Lambert desperately tries to help offload the big earners whilst still developing a squad that can compete...
I actually think that our wage bill isn''t fully representative of some of the quality we have, but this is mainly due to the fast track progression through the leagues, give it another year or two and I expect we''ll be much closer to WBA''s bill (or higher) - assuming we bring in the players that are needed to develop the squad going forwards.
Whether that is true or not is open to question and not playing players doesn''t equate to not paying them.
Of course they could just sit there and "Bogarde"...
Are another team more likely to buy a player on big wages that has sat twiddling his thumbs for a year or one that has been playing?
Warren, you''ve committed the ultimate crime - you''ve attacked "his lordship"!!!
On top of that, you didn''t denigrate CH!!!
Oh the shame of it - you''ll have to change your name!
You''ll get hounded out of this forum by the HOB''s (Hughton Out Brigade)!
Quick, repent and get your tin hat on, before the obvious suspects find out [8-|]
In my opinion Hugnton was the best steady, experienced option last summer and he still is!
Its laughable people think Martinez is so wonderful when year after year Wigan only cling onto top flight status by their finger tips when their budget would be substantial and far greater than ours which would probably be in the bottom 3!
Yes we''ve been too negative especially the Newcastle and Fulham home games that we should have won which would see us safe now, but a lot of this cause Hughton doesn''t rate our attack and quite rightly too. In recent games we have plenty of attacks but haven''t had the quality to produce the end product of goals or even make decent chances. The only difference between us andVilla were their front line, swap 3 of our forward players with theirs and we''d of beaten them comfortably cause we were better than them in defence and midfield!
People forget what League we''re in. This season was always going to be tough, the momentum had already gone before the end of last and Lambert knew this. I honestly think its likely we''d of been worse of had he stayed anyway!
Look at our squad, how many of them would other premiership teams want?
Bassong and Ruddy for definate then maybe Turner and Pilkington are the only ones in iur sqaud who other prem teams would want!
You can''t make a silk purse out of a sows ear I think the saying goes!
If we stay up then it''ll be job done as far as I''m concerned although with a big cautionary MUST IMPROVE tagged onto it!
In his defence he has to sell 1 or 2 of his best players every year. I have read ...somewhere... a case made that by the time he gets his side intergated/adjusted to loss of last years best and has new talent bedded it''s post-Christmas and the Wigan resurgence starts. It''s an idea with some merit I suppose.
Which may work in our favour - in the sense that for the first time (ever?) we don''t have to sell anyone even if offers come in. We can build with what we have without having to repair first.
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