Webbo118 0 Posted May 22, 2013 Who should we all have a go at next? Fun, isn''t it? Uh, no actually. More like pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holtcantshoot 0 Posted May 22, 2013 [quote user="Webbo118"]Who should we all have a go at next? Fun, isn''t it? Uh, no actually. More like pathetic.[/quote]What about Jonny Howson? Sure it was a great goal on Sunday but the lads got a bit of a shit haircut. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Journalist Foghorn 0 Posted May 22, 2013 Bradley Johnson''s passing this season (71.9%) is worse than last season (78%). With less key passes and less accurate long balls. He does a great defensive job in the side, but is probably a position we should look to improve upon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetteys Jig 830 Posted May 22, 2013 [quote user="Webbo118"]Who should we all have a go at next? Fun, isn''t it? Uh, no actually. More like pathetic.[/quote]I wasn''t having a go, it was an interesting statistic related to our football club, make of it what you will. Why assume that his low pass completion rate is a bad thing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Webbo118 0 Posted May 22, 2013 O.K. you have seen some "interesting" statistics. Could you please repeat them so that we can all see them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted May 22, 2013 Has football totally lost its identity that its all about percentages of passes completed now?Do people realise that until right now, its been very rare indeed we can afford to buy the finished article in a player.Oh and I have ten English pounds for anyone who will go and tell Bradley his passing is $hit, to his face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Webbo118 0 Posted May 22, 2013 Just seen this:-RNamePosAgecmkgAppsGoalAYelRedSpGPS%AWMoMRt1Robert SnodgrassM(LR)251828235(2)668-2.178.80.857.222Bradley JohnsonM(C)2617868371210-1.171.92.1-6.893John RuddyGK261939715-----31.50.316.834Sébastien BassongD(C)261877334323-0.477.2316.825Steven WhittakerD(R)281858712(1)1---0.575.10.9-6.756Ryan BennettD(C)231887010(5)1-2-0.373.13.5-6.737Russell MartinD(CR)271837430(1)3-1-0.873.51.2-6.78Alexander TetteyDM(C)271806821(6)--4-0.883.31.1-6.699Michael TurnerD(C)291938425(1)3-6-0.477.71.5-6.6710Wes HoolahanAM(C)311687128(5)333-0.984.50.216.6611Grant HoltFW321837728(6)838-1.664.42.3-6.6512Anthony PilkingtonM(LR)241807625(5)532-1.480.60.4-6.6413Kei KamaraFW28191857(4)11--1.566.15-6.6114Jonathan HowsonM(C)251807722(8)212-0.580.70.716.5415Javier GarridoD(L)281787534-24-0.175.40.4-6.5316Leon BarnettD(C)27185716(2)-11-0.172.42.8-6.4917Elliott BennettM(R)24175699(15)133-0.674.40.316.4618Harry KaneFW19183651(2)----1.374.31.3-6.4219Mark BunnGK281837722(1)--21-34.2--6.3920Lee CampGK28183741(2)--1--36.4--6.1821Andrew SurmanM(CL)26180734----2.378.80.5-6.1522Luciano BecchioFW29187862(6)-1--0.468.11.1-6.1523Steve MorisonFW29188854(15)1---0.350.41.4-6.1224Simeon JacksonFW26170725(8)1---1.281.90.3-6.0825Chris MartinFW24178730(1)-----66.7--5.9826David FoxDM(C)29175770(2)----0.569.2--5.8827Marc TierneyD(L)27184711-----70.7--5.6928Declan RuddGK2219180----------29Jacob ButterfieldM2218077----------30James VaughanFW2418082----------31Jed SteerGK2018889----------32Korey SmithM2218378----------33Simon LappinM3018060-------- GoalsG. Holt8R. Snodgrass6A. Pilkington5S. Bassong3R. Martin3AggressionB. Johnson100R. Snodgrass80G. Holt80M. Turner60M. Bunn21AppearanceB. Johnson37R. Snodgrass35(2)S. Bassong34J. Garrido34R. Martin30(1)Aerials wonK. Kamara5R. Bennett3.5S. Bassong3L. Barnett2.8G. Holt2.3AssistsR. Snodgrass6G. Holt3W. Hoolahan3A. Pilkington3E. Bennett3RatingsR. Snodgrass7.22B. Johnson6.89J. Ruddy6.83S. Bassong6.82S. Whittaker6.75 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Webbo118 0 Posted May 22, 2013 It rates him as our second best player! Can''t remember if you mentioned that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Journalist Foghorn 0 Posted May 22, 2013 morty: Oh and I have ten English pounds for anyone who will go and tell Bradley his passing is $hit, to his face.----------------------------------------------------------------What are you on about?The simple statistic was that Bradley Johnson had the worst passing accuracy for a central midfielder who played more than 15 premiership games last season. And whether this is and area the side will need to improve upon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Webbo118 0 Posted May 22, 2013 [quote user="Jimmy Smith"]He cropped up on my Facebook, on the whoscored.com site as having the worst pass completion ratio of any centre mid in the league! Now don''t get me wrong, I like him, and his passing has noticeably improved recently, but that''s a very poor stat to be associated with. Think of some of the shocking contenders![/quote]I have looked at this website and you are most definitely factually incorrect with that statement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Journalist Foghorn 0 Posted May 22, 2013 Webbo118: Who should we all have a go at next? Fun, isn''t it? Uh, no actually. More like pathetic.-------------------------------In Webbo118''s world discussing the positive and negative abilities of our players is pathetic! What are you doing on a football message board! hahahha! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joanna Grey 0 Posted May 22, 2013 It''s not that BJ is a bad player it''s that when played alongside another DM we just have little or no connection with the forward line. We rely on Snoddy and Pilks to get the ball forward when we should at least have an option through the middle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Journalist Foghorn 0 Posted May 22, 2013 [quote user="Webbo118"]I have looked at this website and you are most definitely factually incorrect with that statement.[/quote]Geoff Cameron is a Left Back, Jobi McAnuff is a Left Midfielder and Jonathan Walters plays wide right and Mathew Taylor is a Left Winger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aggy 752 Posted May 22, 2013 I don''t think it is all to do with statistics at all. I think anyone can tell his passing is poor, that statistic just emphasises the point. As mentioned, and conveniently ignored, above, how is it "having a go at" or "picking on" a player to make the observation that (using our eyes rather than stats) the team doesn''t keep the ball well, Johnson doesn''t pass well (backed up by the fact that statistically he is the worst passing central midfielder in the division) and that if we want to improve our squad those two things may lead to a certain conclusion? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holtcantshoot 0 Posted May 22, 2013 In fairness it takes two to tango (and complete a pass). I do find it concerning at times the lack of passing options available across the park when Norwich have the ball. And I think we have one of the poorer pass completion ratios as a team. Probably need to improve overall movement and general desire for possession as a team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aggy 752 Posted May 22, 2013 I don''t think it is all to do with statistics at all. I think anyone can tell his passing is poor, that statistic just emphasises the point. As mentioned, and conveniently ignored, above, how is it "having a go at" or "picking on" a player to make the observation that (using our eyes rather than stats) the team doesn''t keep the ball well, Johnson doesn''t pass well (backed up by the fact that statistically he is the worst passing central midfielder in the division) and that if we want to improve our squad those two things may lead to a certain conclusion? Passing isn''t the only important attribute in football, but neither is tackling. I think the majority on this thread have simply said that we could probably do with a better all round midfielder than Johnson, or a better ball playing alternative next to him so he can lay the ball off to someone who can actually pass - as Tettey''s ball retention isn''t great either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Webbo118 0 Posted May 22, 2013 [quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"]Webbo118: Who should we all have a go at next? Fun, isn''t it? Uh, no actually. More like pathetic. ------------------------------- In Webbo118''s world discussing the positive and negative abilities of our players is pathetic! What are you doing on a football message board! hahahha![/quote]You have hit the nail on the head. Discussing the positive and negative is what it is all about. But with the majority on here, all they are interested in doing is slagging the players off. It is a question of balance. Do you even understand the meaning of the word positive? Hahahahahohohum! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Journalist Foghorn 0 Posted May 22, 2013 Webbo118: Discussing the positive and negative is what it is all about. But with the majority on here, all they are interested in doing is slagging the players off. It is a question of balance. Do you even understand the meaning of the word positive?------------------------------------------------------------------------Absolutely, and most posters clearly mention the excellent season BJ has had and his defensive capabilities. Even the initial poster says: "Now don''t get me wrong, I like him, and his passing has noticeably improved recently, but that''s a very poor stat to be associated with. "It would seem you didn''t even notice all the positive comments from the majority of posters on this thread.I think you should join Morty in the "discussing anything negative is an attack on me personally" corner... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alfie54 76 Posted May 22, 2013 It seems to me entirely reasonable to point out the bleeding obvious that BJ can''t pass the ball accurately and that for arguments sake Spurs let Parker go, given that he can tackle has enormous stamina and importantly in this context, can pass the ball, he would improve of team! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted May 22, 2013 The point is, Mr Foghorn, is its the same people carping about negatives all the time, some of you miserable fuckers have nothing good to say about their football team, full stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites