Yellow Rider 0 Posted June 17, 2005 Re thread.....''Thomas Helveg time to commit to canary cause''.Well done Meeky!Not just me then who thinks that Worthy seriously mismanaged at times last season as far as Helveg, Safri, Holt and Flem are concerned. Your comments are 100% spot on. To that I would add the failure to pair Ashton up front with leon IMMEDIATELY we signed him. No coincidence that the goals from Ashton and Mckenzie started to flow largely once that partnership had been selected. Playing the likes of Jonson and Hucks as wide men with only 1 striker or Hucks up front with Ashton was always wrong. Hucks is NOT a striker. He does not have the discipline or attributes to play as such. I have said this time and time again. Mind you we better put our tin hats on and duck the inevitable barrage from the Worthy fans along the lines of .....''shackell was too young / inexperienced, Safri could not have been played before as he was injured, Holt always gives 100% (great eh!), Flem will be ''quality'' next season'' etc. This does NOT mean that I have ever thought that we should sack Worthy. Just that he needs to take a long hard look at what he could have done better last season and puts that into practice starting early August. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sheded 0 Posted June 18, 2005 On what premise are you saying that Hux isn`t a striker, Rider ? while its not saying a lot ,he IS an equal scorer to the " strikers " like Mackenzie and Francis ! and his lot was to be stuck out there on the left flank !! ... whats more , without his assists those " strikers " would be lucky to have more than two goals to their name , yeah , say it like it is eh ? Some simple facts :- total goals appearances Hucks 104 374 Francis 29 194 Mackenzie 85 301 At least 44 of Hucks goals were when he played for prem clubs ..... not a striker ?? give me strength !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meeky 0 Posted June 18, 2005 [quote]Re thread.....''Thomas Helveg time to commit to canary cause''. Well done Meeky! Not just me then who thinks that Worthy seriously mismanaged at times last season as far as Helveg, Safri, Holt and Fle...[/quote]Thanks Yellow, as you quite rightly pointed out, there were so many other things which went wrong as well. I just feel that we could have probably survived last season if players were handled properly. It was a big learning curve for management/players and fans alike last season and I would hope that the management team will have learned from it. My other thought is that the coaching staff could do with a bit of freshening up, and we have one of the brightest young coaches in the land coaching the kids. What harm can it do to get Dave Williams more involved with the first team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Northern Canary 0 Posted June 18, 2005 Worthy was too slow to learn. but i think he has learnt now. Shacks, Helveg and Safri all played out the end of the season. I can make no excuses for why Flem was played for every match but i still think Worthy would know better if there will be a next time round Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted June 19, 2005 [quote]Worthy was too slow to learn. but i think he has learnt now. Shacks, Helveg and Safri all played out the end of the season. I can make no excuses for why Flem was played for every match but i still th...[/quote] Careful Northern Canary and everyone, or the pro Worthy, brown nose mob, will start on you too, for for even suggesting NW has some failings. Trust me, I damn well know!. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Harvey-Jones 0 Posted June 19, 2005 Huckerby himself has said that he is not a natural finisher and therefore would not conside himself an out and out goalscorer. He gets in goalscoring positions because of his pace but if he could finish like Leon or Ashton he would have had lots more goals last season! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Budgie 0 Posted June 19, 2005 Has Worthy learned enough about the Premiership to survive after we get there again next season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sheded 0 Posted June 19, 2005 [quote]Huckerby himself has said that he is not a natural finisher and therefore would not conside himself an out and out goalscorer. He gets in goalscoring positions because of his pace but if he could fini...[/quote]I would have to hear Hucks actually say he`s not a natural striker , live on TV , before I believed he actually said that ! , the tabloid media invents all kinds of crap , you should know that ! .... The reality of last season is that Hux IS level to our , so called , strikers , in goals scored , AND he assisted in most of the goals scored by the likes of Mackenzie and Francis ... to imagine that this is not the truth is to deny the evidence of your own eyes ! Without Hucks we would have been finished in the prem by February , and thats being kind !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZLF 271 Posted June 20, 2005 [quote]I would have to hear Hucks actually say he`s not a natural striker , live on TV , before I believed he actually said that ! , the tabloid media invents all kinds of crap , you should know t...[/quote]Totally agree sheded - Hux does miss chances but leon misses as many and creates fewer assists for the team generally. The sooner Worthy learns how to best use Hux the better. OTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Harvey-Jones 0 Posted June 20, 2005 I really don''t think Huckerby''s best position is as an out and out striker because if he plays up front he is more easily marked by defenders so he drops deep to get the ball which means we only then have one man up front. If he doesn''t drop deep then he can''t go on his runs which are so deadly. Play him in midfield or just behind the front two in a free role where he can cause havoc!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sheded 0 Posted June 20, 2005 [quote]I really don''t think Huckerby''s best position is as an out and out striker because if he plays up front he is more easily marked by defenders so he drops deep to get the ball which means we only then ...[/quote]I would tend to agree with that position for Hucks ! certainly better than being stuck on the left wing ... Just a thought on your claim that putting Hucks in the frontline would cause him to be marked out of play ... on the left wing he invariably has at least two defenders marking him , and he` STILL manages to lose them ,as often as not ! the usual procedure for defenders, is to leg him up and concede a free kick ... but if they did this to him around the box , with his turn of speed , a leg up just outside the box could see Hucks land in the back of the net !! LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herb 0 Posted June 21, 2005 [quote]Careful Northern Canary and everyone, or the pro Worthy, brown nose mob, will start on you too, for for even suggesting NW has some failings. Trust me, I damn well know!.[/quote]You call the supporters who stick by the manager the "brown nose mob"?Classy.You''ve gone down in my estimation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted June 21, 2005 [quote]You call the supporters who stick by the manager the "brown nose mob"? Classy. You''ve gone down in my estimation.[/quote] Was I ever up, in it Herb?. Seriously, and while I don''t give a flying toss for any reputation, I may or may not have, I will apologise for my ''brown nose'' comment, as it was too harsh, I agree. Misguided, would have been better, yes?. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NottsCanary 0 Posted June 21, 2005 1st Wiz: I''m shocked! You tell me you never admit you''re wrong, now 2 in 2 days. What''s happening! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
