sonyc 5,446 Posted February 2, 2013 That is not a question as much as a statement of frustration. We are playing the bottom club. We have a new striker itching to have his taste of the Premier League. Why not score a goal and THEN go 451 after we are in control of the match? Come on CH. so frustrating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I am a Banana 0 Posted February 2, 2013 On this 1 occassion i''m fine with us trying to not lose the game. the 4-4-2 is a better option when trying to attack, but if it stays 0-0 and we take a point from the bottom team then that suits me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lavanche 0 Posted February 2, 2013 Yeah when we it like in Luton game and go to win it!Oh wait... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted February 2, 2013 4-4-2 hasnt been used by succesful teams in years!the basis of success is built with 1 up front. Sky and the BBC just use a default 4-4-2 graphic .Man United regularly play 4-1-3-2, Chelski start with 1 up front.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Number 9 0 Posted February 2, 2013 At about 87 minutes Sonyc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rolf Harris 30 Posted February 2, 2013 I thought Hoolahan should of came off after 60-70mins done really little with Bec coming on i thought it could of been a very easy winnable game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Gay Schoolboy 0 Posted February 2, 2013 Have a think about all the games where we have started 4-4-2 this season, and what happened during them, and then you will have your answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rolf Harris 30 Posted February 2, 2013 [quote user="school boy error"]Have a think about all the games where we have started 4-4-2 this season, and what happened during them, and then you will have your answer.[/quote]Wingers done well last season, what have they been told this season looks like the coaching is the wrong part Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyboy 0 Posted February 2, 2013 but even when Becchio came on it wasnt 442!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phillip J Fry 0 Posted February 2, 2013 this idea that “Oh I’d like to see two up front, because that’s more attacking than one up front”, well it depends who your midfield four is. If you played 4-4-2 with lots of very hard working, non-technical midfielders, that 4-4-2 can be very defensive. If you play 4-2-3-1 where your ‘3’ are really skilful players, who are comfortable on the ball, and one of your ‘2’ maybe can pass it over long distances, that’s way more attacking than the 4-4-2 with the quite defensive ‘4’. So the idea that you can tell whether a team’s more attacking or defensive looking at the formation and the formation alone is nonsense- Jonathon Wilson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phillip J Fry 0 Posted February 2, 2013 [quote user="Phillip J Fry"] this idea that “Oh I’d like to see two up front, because that’s more attacking than one up front”, well it depends who your midfield four is. If you played 4-4-2 with lots of very hard working, non-technical midfielders, that 4-4-2 can be very defensive. If you play 4-2-3-1 where your ‘3’ are really skilful players, who are comfortable on the ball, and one of your ‘2’ maybe can pass it over long distances, that’s way more attacking than the 4-4-2 with the quite defensive ‘4’. So the idea that you can tell whether a team’s more attacking or defensive looking at the formation and the formation alone is nonsense- Jonathon Wilson[/quote]* Jonathan Wilson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canaryfan68 0 Posted February 2, 2013 It''s players that win you games not formations... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gingerpele 0 Posted February 2, 2013 Spurs changed from 4-4-2 to 4-4-1-1 to try and win against us...Can you please get it out of your head 4-4-2 is so much more attacking. It means we have no attacking midfielder, and th wingers are less attack minded. The formation has little baring on how attacking a side is, it''s the tactics, you can be just as attacking with one man up top, if the guy behind is your key attacking man, which coincidently is what Hoolahan is.It''s not the formation you have an issue with, it''s Hughton''s style/tactics we could play 4-2-4 and wouldn''t be any more attacking than we are now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,446 Posted February 2, 2013 Well for me Hughton''s style and tactics and the negative, defensive formations are the same thing. Holt plays better with another as he is too isolated. We are lacking creative quality and will have to wait til summer now. But most posters on numerous threads have made similar points that without any positive intent...by making attack one of your defensive strategies ...otherwise our set up invites pressure. Reading and Southampton are showing that. Maybe everyone is a bigger expert than me and know their formations as would be football managers but the current way Hughton sets up depresses me. I can''t help posting my concern that his tactics are drawing us into a battle that can be avoided. Fulham now is scarily so important. Will he play with 2 strikers? What do you all think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland Canary 76 Posted February 2, 2013 In the 87th minute against Man City as we look forward to our next visit to Liverpool to play Tranmere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,581 Posted February 2, 2013 Weren''t we supposed to lose 3 0 today Private Frazer? No we didn''t. Weren''t we supposed to plummet nearer to the relegation zone. We didn''t. You must be gutted! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barclay_boy111 0 Posted February 2, 2013 Completely agree with op think we need to try winning games now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Chops 7 Posted February 2, 2013 [quote user="sonyc"]When are we going to go 442 and try and set out to win a game![/quote]1997-8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salopian 1 Posted February 3, 2013 With Becchio hardly knowing his team mates, and never having trained with them even, today was not the time to risk failure. I suspect that CH will eventually realise that for a point a game for safety, and with some difficult games on the horizon, we have to win a few games. He might even start next Saturday, at home against a team low in the table, either playing two strikers from the start or more likely bringing on a second easrlier than usual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby 0 Posted February 3, 2013 Since when is "4-4 f''in 2" the way to win a game? There are many formations that can win a game. I always thought it was players that win matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yorkshire Canary 118 Posted February 3, 2013 Reading stopped 442 and have adopted 451 andstarted having success. At the moment we do not have the quality to do 442. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hesceth 0 Posted February 3, 2013 I think the problem with our play at the moment is that we, as a team,sit far too deep and do not move back and forth together. We leave glaring gaps between defence and attack. We hold in our own half and defend desperately ,because losing the ball so close to our own goal would be fatal. Because we are all back,clearing the ball rarely relieves the pressure. Lambert s success was built on moving the entire team further up field and holding a high line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites