Luton fans unhappy

[Yobocop 1,467]

Not really much norwich can do but apparently Luton fans are worried their club is losing money because of our ''pricing policy''

So Luton have setup a voluntary donation of £5 which goes towards their academy.

[crabbycanary 2]

I thought both Clubs had to agree to the prices?

[Duncan Edwards 0]

That speaks volumes.

[ZLF 342]

So c20k tickets at £14 average price or full house for £9.   Given they take 45% of ticket sales that is only £20k difference,  which if all their 4000 fans give a £5 then no loss of cash.

 

 

[city4eva 261]

Both clubs/chairmen had to agree the prices. I am guessing that luton agreed to a cheaper price, therefore almost gting a sell out, rather than a percentage of a higher priced ticket and smaller crowd

[Kirby_86 0]

I guess we have a bit more of a say as the home club,but if the shoe was on the other foot they would also put their interests first.Our interests in this situation is trying to get a sell-out in an FA Cup game v a non-league side,hence charging 10 notes for an adult and 1 quid for kids.

[Yobocop 1,467]

Only going on what the club put on website. But it would appear the fans are a) not happy with the low price as they think the club will miss out financially and b) not happy with how the tickets are being sold (seems fair enough to me?)

[TIL 1010 5,300]

[quote user="refjezdavies"]Only going on what the club put on website. But it would appear the fans are a) not happy with the low price as they think the club will miss out financially and b) not happy with how the tickets are being sold (seems fair enough to me?)[/quote]

As we do not know yet how the tickets are being sold at this end Jez what is making them unhappy at the Luton End ?

[Kirby_86 0]

To cut to the chase,who gives a monkeys about what their views are on the ticket price their club partly agreed to?

Also by reading their messageboards on and off for a few years now they seem quite a bitter/envious mob after ending up stuck in non-league football and 3 years of play-off failure,while the likes of Stevenage have progressed much quicker.

Prehaps Luton should consider a shirt deal with McCain Oven Chips,as thats the size of the bag some of their supporters wear on their shoulder....

[shefcanary 3,073]

[quote user="TIL 1010"]

[quote user="refjezdavies"]Only going on what the club put on website. But it would appear the fans are a) not happy with the low price as they think the club will miss out financially and b) not happy with how the tickets are being sold (seems fair enough to me?)[/quote]

As we do not know yet how the tickets are being sold at this end Jez what is making them unhappy at the Luton End ?

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Tilly the teams in the FA Cup share gate admission equally (after deductions). Thus what might have been a big income day for Luton has now been considerably reduced. Again, they are probably pre-supposing because NCFC sell out generally in the Premier League, the same would be true of the cup (they have probably not kept track of what happened against Spurs in the COC and compared themselves rather sweetly as being on a par with Spurs). So from their point of view what might have been a payday from gate tickets of c.£200K, may now be reduced to less than £80K (roughly!). Hence their unease.

[Beauseant 0]

You just can win can you? If City had charged £20 a ticket the Luton lot would have been whining about a Prem club making big profits at their expense, now we''re charging too little.

They''ll have a nice day and make decent money so better to try to enjoy it than making themselves look rather daft.

[TIL 1010 5,300]

[quote user="shefcanary"][quote user="TIL 1010"]

[quote user="refjezdavies"]Only going on what the club put on website. But it would appear the fans are a) not happy with the low price as they think the club will miss out financially and b) not happy with how the tickets are being sold (seems fair enough to me?)[/quote]

As we do not know yet how the tickets are being sold at this end Jez what is making them unhappy at the Luton End ?

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Tilly the teams in the FA Cup share gate admission equally (after deductions). Thus what might have been a big income day for Luton has now been considerably reduced. Again, they are probably pre-supposing because NCFC sell out generally in the Premier League, the same would be true of the cup (they have probably not kept track of what happened against Spurs in the COC and compared themselves rather sweetly as being on a par with Spurs). So from their point of view what might have been a payday from gate tickets of c.£200K, may now be reduced to less than £80K (roughly!). Hence their unease.

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I am aware of all that Shef it was the b) part of the post i did not understand which i took to mean the distribution of tickets for the Luton allocation at their end.

[shefcanary 3,073]

Ah, read it too quickly Tilly - still in shock by a Mungo post.  Can''t answer about Luton''s fans problems but guess it is same as ours when we try to get away tickets - probably Luton have come up with a method that doesn''t suit some of their vociferous fans.  Can''t please everyone.

[pete_norw 0]

[quote user="shefcanary"]Ah, read it too quickly Tilly - still in shock by a Mungo post.  Can''t answer about Luton''s fans problems but guess it is same as ours when we try to get away tickets - probably Luton have come up with a method that doesn''t suit some of their vociferous fans.  Can''t please everyone.[/quote]

If we sell, for arguments sake 25000 tickets and they sell 1000, why should we give them the cost of around 13500 tickets, they don''t hold that amount in thier own ground, and at the end of the day it was thier chairman and board doing the cheating in the first place not us, It seems light years away when they were in our league  

[shefcanary 3,073]

Pete, my last point was over how Luton planned to allocate tickets.  See below McNally''s tweet on how it is being done by NCFC - Season ticket holders get first dibs, then members, then general.  You would guess at Luton with average attendances of 2,000 that this system should be sufficient, so can only think they may have decided to just go for general sale and thus pee''d off a few season ticket holders.

 

davidmcnally62

Tickets on sale to season ticket holders only from midday today.Season ticket holders and members from 15/01. General sale from 17/01 pls RT

[Kirby_86 0]

Mate,Luton get average attendances of about 6,500 per game! They are a very well supported non-league club.No idea where you got your figures from.

[pete 375]

Is the tie likely to be televised as Prem v Non League?  Where can we find out? 

[Matt Juler 215]

[quote user="pete"]Is the tie likely to be televised as Prem v Non League?  Where can we find out? [/quote]Confirmed as 3pm Saturday, so not on TV.  The only confirmed TV fixture at the moment is: Oldham Athletic v Liverpool (4pm) - ITV1, however the other 3 must have been choosen, or at least shortlisted, and we''re not one of them.

[Aggy 944]

[quote user="shefcanary"] they are probably pre-supposing because NCFC sell out generally in the Premier League, the same would be true of the cup (they have probably not kept track of what happened against Spurs in the COC and compared themselves rather sweetly as being on a par with Spurs). So from their point of view what might have been a payday from gate tickets of c.£200K, may now be reduced to less than £80K (roughly!). Hence their unease.[/quote]

I think that''s the problem here. However, the Spurs game was midweek whilst this is a Saturday game as far as I''m aware, and we probably would have got a decent crowd. So they may have a point. However, it is against Luton. From our perspective though - why would fans want to pay a similar amount to watch a non-league side as they would to watch world class premiership players? When Luton are in the prem we can set our ticket prices at prem prices. Until then, they''ll have to deal with the fact they''re a non-league club and ticket prices will be adjusted accordingly.

[shefcanary 3,073]

[quote user="Kirby_86"]

Mate,Luton get average attendances of about 6,500 per game! They are a very well supported non-league club.No idea where you got your figures from.

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Apologies Kirby, I have now seen the average is 5,676.  However of that would I be right in saying only 2,000 or so would be season ticket holders?  That was the point I was trying to explore.

[Dodge 0]

Will be interesting to see how many of those 6000 Luton fans make the extra £5 donation?

Think it might be a case of the will take our money but a bit more reluctant with theirs!

End of the day it will be a full house and great atmosphere and best for both parties.

[shefcanary 3,073]

Interview with McNally here on this, explaining all:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p013jk7t

[Mr.Carrow 394]

What a clued-up bloke. Keep up the fine work Mr.McNally.

[GMF 1,044]

TBH NCFC''s cup pricing policy has been a bit haphazard this season, with no consistent approach to the pricing of games. This is hardly surprising, given our recent (rather extended) run of cup failures.

 

The COC is a much harder sell for clubs to fans, given that the games are midweek. Plus, the seeding of Rounds 1 & 2 means that PL & Championship clubs generally get League 1 or 2 opposition, which is not particularly attractive to fans.

 

In comparison, FA Cup games are are at weekends and, despite the efforts of many PL clubs in recent years to devalue to competition through their team selection policies, it still has a special place in the hearts of many ordinary fans.

 

If NCFC are guilty of anything, it''s the lack of a structure approach to its pricing policy for Cup games. Many of the so called bigger Clubs are now adopting a simply pricing format, in order to manage expectations of the fans. I would suggest something along the lines below:-

Adults £10, Concessions £5

Adults £15, concessions £7.50

Adults £20, concessions £10

We could easily do the same from next season with the choice of banding being determiend by such factors as the Cup competition, the level of opposition, the round of the Cup and whether the game is selected for TV.

[J in cumbria 0]

Err get you facts right about our average attendance mate

[J in cumbria 0]

4000 plus st ticket holders, wrong again

[J in cumbria 0]

[quote user="pete_norw"]

[quote user="shefcanary"]Ah, read it too quickly Tilly - still in shock by a Mungo post.  Can''t answer about Luton''s fans problems but guess it is same as ours when we try to get away tickets - probably Luton have come up with a method that doesn''t suit some of their vociferous fans.  Can''t please everyone.[/quote]

If we sell, for arguments sake 25000 tickets and they sell 1000, why should we give them the cost of around 13500 tickets, they don''t hold that amount in thier own ground, and at the end of the day it was thier chairman and board doing the cheating in the first place not us, It seems light years away when they were in our league  

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Get your facts right pal, it was the previous board that did the wrong doings and certainly not the fans. So be careful how you word your post.

In fairness, it would be like us saying Naarich was run by a Pi55head!

Just be grateful it has not happened to you.........yet.

Luton is a well run club, that lives within its means, not losing million every week like most premier clubs.

[Kirby_86 0]

[quote user="shefcanary"][quote user="Kirby_86"]

Mate,Luton get average attendances of about 6,500 per game! They are a very well supported non-league club.No idea where you got your figures from.

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Apologies Kirby, I have now seen the average is 5,676.  However of that would I be right in saying only 2,000 or so would be season ticket holders?  That was the point I was trying to explore.[/quote]

I also apologise.I was a little blunt.

 

[Mister Chops 11]

[quote user="refjezdavies"]Luton fans unhappy[/quote]Of course they are, they have to live in Luton.  I''d rather live in Basra.

[Yobocop 1,467]

Very droll Mr Chops, there are certain parts of luton that are much better than say the Larkman or Prince of Wales road on a weekend night.

This is how the tickets are being allocated Luton end:

Sales plan:

Diamond and executive season ticket holders can purchase two tickets for this match.

Season ticket holders can purchase one ticket.

Season ticket holders with a Skelmersdale ticket/ticket stub can purchase one additional ticket to their quota, as outlined above

SEEMS FAIR ENOUGH?