Bunn Bashers Give It A Rest!

[Matt Morriss 69]

Had just about enough of the armchair fools on this MB bashing Bunn. Some idiot on Canary Call was blaming Bunn for all 5 goals Saturday, a prime example of the mindset of the average Bunn basher I would suspect.

No thought to the fact that Bennett and Turned were woeful and left him horribly exposed, nor the fact we saw two work dies from Henderson and Gerrard, nobodies stopping them.

For me Bunn has made some fantastic saves that have kept us in games at times, normally when 1-0 down, a Banksesque one at West Ham springs to mind and several against Man Utd at home.

People bashing him have no clue about football and are only focusing on the odd mistake he''s made. Yes he may not command his area like Ruddy does, but he''s not as big so its not gonna be his strength. Doesn''t mean he''s a $hit keeper.

Ruddys area command was terrible when he first joined and now look at him. Bunn is one of the best shot stoppers I''ve seen in a number 1 shirt for City and he has pulled off countless top saves that have kept us in games.

It seems that every goal we concede is Bunns fault now, the problem is a missing Bassong and a missing Whittaker. We''re just nowhere near as strong defensively without them and teams are getting in a lot more leaving Bunn more exposed.

Get behind Bunn don''t bash him and when we do concede actually analyse the goal and exactly why we conceded, and you''ll no doubt see a combination of a Russell Martin out of position or beaten too easily, a clumsy mistimed block from Turner and a sharp finish from a top Prem striker.

Not $hit goalkeeping from Bunn.

[Matt Morriss 69]

*worldies

[Stig 0]

...But he ain''t great. From the first time I watched him at... Doncaster? I think? He didn''t seem confident then, and he doesn''t seem confident now THUS I am not confident in him. That''s about as far as it goes though, I don''t dislike the guy or anything like that I just don''t reckon he''s much good for us. When we''re back to full strength I''ll judge him properly then.

[Beauseant 0]

[quote user="Huckerbys Boots - Matt"]Had just about enough of the armchair fools on this MB bashing Bunn. Some idiot on Canary Call was blaming Bunn for all 5 goals Saturday, a prime example of the mindset of the average Bunn basher I would suspect. No thought to the fact that Bennett and Turned were woeful and left him horribly exposed, nor the fact we saw two work dies from Henderson and Gerrard, nobodies stopping them. For me Bunn has made some fantastic saves that have kept us in games at times, normally when 1-0 down, a Banksesque one at West Ham springs to mind and several against Man Utd at home. People bashing him have no clue about football and are only focusing on the odd mistake he''s made. Yes he may not command his area like Ruddy does, but he''s not as big so its not gonna be his strength. Doesn''t mean he''s a $hit keeper. Ruddys area command was terrible when he first joined and now look at him. Bunn is one of the best shot stoppers I''ve seen in a number 1 shirt for City and he has pulled off countless top saves that have kept us in games. It seems that every goal we concede is Bunns fault now, the problem is a missing Bassong and a missing Whittaker. We''re just nowhere near as strong defensively without them and teams are getting in a lot more leaving Bunn more exposed. Get behind Bunn don''t bash him and when we do concede actually analyse the goal and exactly why we conceded, and you''ll no doubt see a combination of a Russell Martin out of position or beaten too easily, a clumsy mistimed block from Turner and a sharp finish from a top Prem striker. Not $hit goalkeeping from Bunn.[/quote]

 

You fail to understand the unwritten rule that any understudy must, by definition be crap unless they exactly replicate the player they replace. Moro is the classic example as he doesn''t play like Holt, but Bunn is definitely a whipping boy. I think the lad has made some unbelievable stops and his handling is excellent, with hardly anything being spilt, but, as you say, his height militates against coming through traffic to catch crosses. I don''t think he''s done too much wrong given the upheavals in front of him.

[mrs miggins 0]

I thought you were being homophobic when i first read the title  :)

[TIL 1010 5,246]

Maybe you could start a thread having a go at the Hughton bashers but then again numerous posts of yours on various threads concerning Hughton would tell a different story.[;)]

Await the personal insults to follow.............

[AJ 1,359]

Sadly when you''re conceding goals regularly, especially five in one match, there''s always going to be question marks.

I''m not saying Bunn is completely to blame, I entirely agree he''s made some really good saves - but he''s also let in a few which are very questionable. He''s definitely miles below Ruddy in terms of quality, but that just shows how much Ruddy has developed in his time here. I was kinda hoping Bunn would step into his own after a little run of matches, but sadly it doesn''t seem to be quite clicking - which is why I''m absolutely not surprised we are looking to bring in another experienced keeper

[ROBFLECK 134]

He''s not good enough. Sorry to have to say...I think Rudd is a better ''keeper!

[hogesar 10,765]

I think the reality of the situation is our defending has not been as good in this losing run as it was in our unbeaten run (obviously). And because of this, Bunn''s being made to look alot worse than he actually is. When he first came in everyone was impressed - there was constant threads praising Hughton for bringing in a backup keeper and Bunn could potentially challenge Ruddy for the No.1 shirt etc etc.Now he''s getting little protection from his defenders people are finding it easier to blame Bunn than our defensive unit. We were awful Saturday but i personally feel Bassong has been a little out of sorts in the previous couple games and Turner actually the better defender of the two.The reality is, 99% of Norwich fans always have and always will need a specific player to `not be good enough`. Mark Bunn is not John Ruddy and that''s half the battle lost for him already, unfortunately.

[York Canary 29]

[quote user="mrs miggins"]I thought you were being homophobic when i first read the title  :)[/quote]HAHA!!

[Eadies Left, Hucks Right, Iwans Heed, Holts Laugh! 0]

[quote user="Huckerbys Boots - Matt"]Had just about enough of the armchair fools on this MB bashing Bunn. Some idiot on Canary Call was blaming Bunn for all 5 goals Saturday, a prime example of the mindset of the average Bunn basher I would suspect. No thought to the fact that Bennett and Turned were woeful and left him horribly exposed, nor the fact we saw two work dies from Henderson and Gerrard, nobodies stopping them. For me Bunn has made some fantastic saves that have kept us in games at times, normally when 1-0 down, a Banksesque one at West Ham springs to mind and several against Man Utd at home. People bashing him have no clue about football and are only focusing on the odd mistake he''s made. Yes he may not command his area like Ruddy does, but he''s not as big so its not gonna be his strength. Doesn''t mean he''s a $hit keeper. Ruddys area command was terrible when he first joined and now look at him. Bunn is one of the best shot stoppers I''ve seen in a number 1 shirt for City and he has pulled off countless top saves that have kept us in games. It seems that every goal we concede is Bunns fault now, the problem is a missing Bassong and a missing Whittaker. We''re just nowhere near as strong defensively without them and teams are getting in a lot more leaving Bunn more exposed. Get behind Bunn don''t bash him and when we do concede actually analyse the goal and exactly why we conceded, and you''ll no doubt see a combination of a Russell Martin out of position or beaten too easily, a clumsy mistimed block from Turner and a sharp finish from a top Prem striker. Not $hit goalkeeping from Bunn.[/quote]

 

Fair points, but Ruddy played against Man Utd?

[a1canary 0]

I''m happy to get Camp in to be honest, i think that''s a smart move. I have no problem with Bunn but as some (but not many) people understand, because he is cover for Ruddy, he is by definition not as good as Ruddy. But in the circumstances i think he has done ok. Equally though, i don''t think anyone could argue we would have conceded fewer goals if Ruddy was back there, if only because he''s a massive unit, far bigger than Bunn.

Camp has been great for Forest - i have a few Forest supporting mates who say he has done well for them and i would agree from what i''ve seen of him. I think we''re vulnerable without some more cover. If Bunn was injured, i wouldn''t want to see Rudd thrown in to a relegation battle. Far better for him to continue his development on loan.

[GJP 79]

Bunn is a good shot stopper (not sure if I''d consider him as one of the best I''ve ever seen at Norwich) but he''s only really a good stopper for anything close to his body. I think there have been some goals that have gone into the corners that a bigger and better ''keeper would have saved.

 

If we do bring in another ''keeper then people are just going to have to accept that Bunn hasn''t been good enough for what we need.

[andyc24_uk 79]

I don''t think anyone''s expecting him to be as good as or better than Ruddy... The issue I have with Bunn is that he was brought in because he was supposedly better than Rudd and Steer. It''s increasingly obvious that he really isn''t - certainly he''s no better than Rudd - so a) his signing was a waste of money which could and should have been spent elsewhere, and b) his being here is blocking the development of two potentially much better goalkeepers. I think he''d make a solid championship ''keeper, but he''s just not up to the top flight - Steer and/or Rudd, given the opportunity to develop, might well be.

[GJP 79]

[quote user="andyc24_uk"]I don''t think anyone''s expecting him to be as good as or better than Ruddy... The issue I have with Bunn is that he was brought in because he was supposedly better than Rudd and Steer. It''s increasingly obvious that he really isn''t - certainly he''s no better than Rudd - so a) his signing was a waste of money which could and should have been spent elsewhere, and b) his being here is blocking the development of two potentially much better goalkeepers. I think he''d make a solid championship ''keeper, but he''s just not up to the top flight - Steer and/or Rudd, given the opportunity to develop, might well be.[/quote]

While I''m not overly convinced by Bunn I would still have him in ahead of Rudd or Steer. Neither of those two are going to make it at Norwich City or in the Premier League.

 

While there may not be masses of difference in ability at least Bunn is much more experienced and is therefore the better ''keeper at the moment and that''s what we need - the best person in goal who is available to us.

[Google Bot 3,934]

With the keeper, it''s not all about the shot stopping, they play a key role in organising the defence to prevent their own shortcomings from being exposed.

I feel this is an area where he''s letting us down, but then it''s very hard to command a defence with large (Both physically and mentally) CB''s like Bennett, Bassong and Turner. Especially when he''s only there for cover.

I think Ruddy has the whole skill set, but that''s not to knock Bunn. I think he done a great job when he first came in, and he just needs to find his feet again.

[pete 371]

I Rudd or Steer as good as some reckon would have hoped the England goalkeeping coach might have noticed.  Same people were the ones calling for Joe Lewis for first team, where is he now?

Bunn a fair replacement keeper not a Ruddy but who is?

What would have been the reaction if we had bought a Julio Ceasr as backup/replacement for £60k week keeper.

Rudd certainly not considered good enough as reckoned by seasoned professional football people, get over it.

Kept Camp out of Binner clutches.

 

[Rudolph Hucker 0]

Rudd and Steer not good enough?  Surely we don''t develop young players for other clubs - all the time?

[Scooby 0]

Yup, didn''t see the great saves against Man U at home, probably because he wasn''t there??

[nutty nigel 7,902]

I''m beginning to wonder if Rudd is good enough. Or will ever be good enough.We had all this with Joe Lewis but that seems to have gone quiet now. I take comfort from the learned judges on here who rate Rudd above Ruddy. Why isn''t Rudd out on loan? Surely we can tell some clubs to take him! Is Steer going to be good enough? Time will tell I guess. I hope so. Would be great to have a first team player from our academy.

 

 

[Scooby 0]

[quote user="pete"]

I Rudd or Steer as good as some reckon would have hoped the England goalkeeping coach might have noticed.  Same people were the ones calling for Joe Lewis for first team, where is he now?

Bunn a fair replacement keeper not a Ruddy but who is?

What would have been the reaction if we had bought a Julio Ceasr as backup/replacement for £60k week keeper.

Rudd certainly not considered good enough as reckoned by seasoned professional football people, get over it.

Kept Camp out of Binner clutches.

 

[/quote]

Surely they have? Isn''t that why they have both represented England.  I have no doubt that both will go on to be excellent keepers and I definitely think that Rudd should have been given more of a chance with Ruddy out.  Hopefully he will play Saturday.

[Rudolph Hucker 0]

Just glad his name isn''t Mark Bishop.

[4th floor 4]

I really don''t have any time for Bunn''s knockers.