Willmeister 35 Posted November 25, 2012 Just seen on twitter that McNally is investigating claims that an Everton fan racially abused Bass on twitter last night.Surprised there hadn''t been more on this, especially as they accused us of racism back in 2004, which was completely false.https://twitter.com/davidmcnally62/status/272393094106857473 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings of a Sparrow 1,414 Posted November 25, 2012 Deary me that''s well out of order. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joanna Grey 0 Posted November 25, 2012 Is this really McNally''s business? It''s a clear racist comment and should therefore be directed to the Police to investigate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joanna Grey 0 Posted November 25, 2012 ...which is what McNally has done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gorlestongirl 0 Posted November 25, 2012 It is very much ,McNally''s business. If you strip away all the ''football glamour'', Bassong is one of his employees, who has been racially abused while at work. He is obliged to become involved and contact the Police. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,749 Posted November 25, 2012 wonder what that piece of slime Ian Ross will make of this ?!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nexus_Canary 1,016 Posted November 25, 2012 One thing I really do not understand or get is a racist. :(Sorry state of affairs, Seek and Destroy !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete_norw 0 Posted November 25, 2012 [quote user="Nexus_Canary"]One thing I really do not understand or get is a racist. :(Sorry state of affairs, Seek and Destroy !![/quote]This has to end here, Ban the racist fan and dock Everton 10 points award us with the win, yes it''s harsh on Everton , but it will tell everyone we will knock out this Racisim crap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nexus_Canary 1,016 Posted November 25, 2012 Something has to be done for sureI ( like many ) saw the two twitter feeds posted on here yesterday and frankly its disgusting. Doubt they will go as far as docking 10 points but a hefty fine and a ban from all types of football for the two pieces of toilet bowl micro organic life that posted such filth in 2012 ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gingerpele 0 Posted November 25, 2012 Why exactly should Everton be punished for something two stupid pathetic fans said on twitter?Might as well get Fifa to ban England from the World cup, UEFA to ban all English clubs from European competitions. Its not the clubs fault they have two low lives who are stupid enough to say that kind of thing on twitter. You could probably find racist people supporting nearly every club. In fact I remember a year or two ago some pundit, former Palace player starting blocking all Norwich fans (even players as well I think) because on Norwich fan said something racist to him. Its not the clubs fault, its the persons fault. They will hopefully be banned from football for life, probably some kind of fine and/or community service. Can''t see why you would think punishing Everton would achieve anything, unless they have come out in support for the two? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjs7 0 Posted November 25, 2012 I see one of the moron''s has since deleted his Twitter account, even more sad that after those disgraceful comments they aren''t man enough to stand by their words, cowards... hope the fuzz track them down, name them and shame them, fine them and stick them in prison for a few days or maybe wheel them out at our next home game a few minutes before the game starts, lets see how cocky and brass they are then with 27,000 people giving them hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dpit 1 Posted November 25, 2012 Whatever happens there will always always be a few disturbed/ low IQ individuals who will spout this stuff in whatever way they can. We''re not going to make them go away. However, the good news is these sorts of comments now arouse almost universal outrage. It was not so long ago that such a comment uttered on the terraces or in the pub would have ruffled very few feathers. We really have moved on as a society - racism is a much smaller problem than it was in the past and as a result of this we will continue to rail against the few fools who stll peddle such drivel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yobocop 1,098 Posted November 25, 2012 ''Might as well get Fifa to ban England from the World cup, UEFA to ban all English clubs from European competitions''What a completely unhelpful, ill advised over reaction YET again.Why do you always do this? Why do you always feel the need to make your point by making such ridiculous comments?Any fan making these sorts of comments represents the Everton fan base regardless on whether its just '' two stupid pathetic fans'' You can''t keep throwing your toys out of the pram like a spoilt child just coz you don''t agree with one comment...are you not capable of reasoned argument or will you continue labelling the whole of english football racist? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gingerpele 0 Posted November 25, 2012 LOLIf these two fans represent the Everton fan base, then surely the represent the English fan base as well? Everton are an English club are they not?And we''ve had Terry and Saurez banned for racist comments, a referee (wrongly) accused of racist comments. Liverpool fans accused of racist comments towards Adyemi. Lee Croft accused of racism, and Mark Bright getting upset at a Norwich fan on twttier a couple years ago making a racist comment. Fairly sure there have been a couple more incidents at least involving twitter.I AM NOT labelling the whole of English football racist, I never said that. It is an overreaction to say Everton should be docked 10 points, if thats a fair response to two fans making racist comments, then surely the amount of racism (although a lot of it just accusations) going around in English football at the moment, then how is saying English teams should be banned an overreaction? I obviously don''t think that should happen, and used it as an example because of the previous overreaction.You are the one who has the problem here, I am giving an opinion, you are the one who is not capable of reasoned argument because you have just started insulting me. I did not label the whole of English football racist, and if Everton being docked 10 points for two racist fans on twitter is a perfectly reasonable thing to suggest, then why isn''t English teams being punished for a large amount of racist behaviour/accusations a reasonable thing to suggest? (Obviously I don''t think either are reasonable). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yobocop 1,098 Posted November 25, 2012 just keep telling yourself that...talk about deluded Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dpit 1 Posted November 25, 2012 Once again, the increased media coverage of racism in football is not because racism is getting worse, quite the contrary. There is now a consensus that racism is intolerable and therefore when it does happen there is a strong reaction. All the more reason for avoiding collective punishments. A strong message does not need to be sent as the majority are on message. Identify the twittering twits, ban em and pour down derision on em and move on until the next moron pops up. Save bans etc for if we ever go back to a time (god forbid) when large numbers of fans are involved in racist chanting etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gingerpele 0 Posted November 25, 2012 [quote user="Ted Danson"]just keep telling yourself that...talk about deluded[/quote]Get over yourself. You''re just a bully. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aggy 755 Posted November 25, 2012 Ted Danson, I don''t think you''ve read ginger''s comment properly. He was being far from over the top. And was, quite clearly I thought, suggesting that Everton should not be docked points because of the stupidity of two of their fans. IF you were to do that, why should FIFA not punish the English FA? After all, if Everton can be to blame because of their fans, why should the English FA not be punished because fans of English teams are racially abusing foreigners?Now, quite clearly, action from FIFA against the English FA would be ridiculous; and rather than suggesting that should be the case, Ginger was (again, quite clearly I though) using that as an example to show why Everton being docked points would be equally ridiculous. Ban anyone who is racist, yes, maybe even fine the club if you want to try and set a precedent, but to dock them points would be outrageous for one fan being a numpty over twitter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted November 25, 2012 [quote user="GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary"]wonder what that piece of slime Ian Ross will make of this ?!?[/quote]oh dont worry.. he will have it on "good Authority" that the word "fat" was used.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Brownstone 0 Posted November 25, 2012 Still haven''t forgiven Everton for that.Ross never did apologise did he? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N city till I die 0 Posted November 25, 2012 How you know it was not a Norwich fan abusing Bassong, becasue a norwich fan got accused of racially abusing james vaughan a while ago, when he was about to sign for us,also how do you know norwich fans werent saying racist remarks towards rooney, none of this has been proven Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
......and Smith must score. 1,342 Posted November 25, 2012 [quote user="N city til I die"]How you know it was not a Norwich fan abusing Bassong, becasue a norwich fan got accused of racially abusing james vaughan a while ago, when he was about to sign for us,also how do you know norwich fans werent saying racist remarks towards rooney, none of this has been proven[/quote]Well I''d hazard a guess that they weren''t because they were accused of singing, " You black b*stard ".As far as I know Rooney''s always been white. [:O] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aggy 755 Posted November 25, 2012 I think the twitter account said he was an Everton fan, NcitytilIdie. And like McNally said, it doesn''t matter what club they support (and that includes Norwich) if they racially abuse players they shouldn''t be at the games and the club will, and should, do everything it can to make sure that happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacko 0 Posted November 25, 2012 I''m totally with Ginger Pele on this one. It is not appropriate to impose sanctions against Everton as a club because of the behaviour of 1 or 2 of their "supporters." It is a complete overreaction, its unfair and targets the wrong people. The point he makes about England is a good one, illustrating how stupid the sanctions would be if taken to their logical extremes.Instead you need to attack the actual issues. Which is that some people genuinely have a belief that because they type an opinion from behind a computer screen they are somehow divorced from it in real life. If police sanctions and fines start coming home to individuals. It sends a very real message that this behaviour is totally unacceptable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dpit 1 Posted November 26, 2012 Oh dear. Having said that the problem is only with very small minorities, we now have quite a large group of West Ham fans heard to be singing vile anti-Semitic songs. Now this would be a case where strong action against the club is warranted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
William Darby 0 Posted November 26, 2012 IMO this twitter BS and other incidents reported lately is just a reflection how pissed off people are generally due to the state of the country. And people think ''**** it I don''t give a ****''. The racial incidents will be reported because they''re are deemed wrong. However general verbal abuse going on seems to be on the up too. I''m not talking just football but there seems more angry, stressed people about lately. Which comes back to twatter, where a twit can blow off without considering the consequences. They probably know it''s wrong, but don''t care atm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PKC 0 Posted November 26, 2012 Has Mark Bright gone into meltdown over this? Has he blocked all Everton fans from following him and stopped following anyone with Everton links?Just Asking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted November 26, 2012 "is just a reflection how pissed off people are generally due to the state of the country" funny, he didn''t seem so pissed off with the state of the country while Everton were winning Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rudolph Hucker 0 Posted November 26, 2012 We are talking here about a handful of morons who are stupid enough still to forget in a moment of rage that Twitter is a public forum. I would suggest there are few genuine racists in football or society, the kind who would directly do harm by action; a few more who do harm by failing to do the right things (often out of fear of the perceived racism industry) such as employ people; a few more who just don''t think and a majority who simply don''t empathise. All the racism witch-hunt is doing IMO is stopping dialogue, attitude challenging at a low level and making divisions by causing offenders to feel like victims. We are all different, we are tribal which means we take an attitude against other groups and this happens in all societies and in all manner of formats. I am prepared to bet that when Seb Bassong is in London he doesn''t feel he needs protection from racists; he might have more to fear from black on black crime - for which The Met has a specialised unit; because of his status and wealth. And here is another thing; the difficulties young black boys in our cities face from gangs, rivals and avoiding membership in general is far worse than racism. It threatens everything from their education to their lives. Meanwhile, society frets over a few morons on Twitter. I bet Seb sees a much bigger picture. Sebastian, we might have a few idiots but you can feel safe and welcome in Norwich. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
William Darby 0 Posted November 26, 2012 [quote user="RUDOLPH HUCKER"]We are talking here about a handful of morons who are stupid enough still to forget in a moment of rage that Twitter is a public forum. I would suggest there are few genuine racists in football or society, the kind who would directly do harm by action; a few more who do harm by failing to do the right things (often out of fear of the perceived racism industry) such as employ people; a few more who just don''t think and a majority who simply don''t empathise. All the racism witch-hunt is doing IMO is stopping dialogue, attitude challenging at a low level and making divisions by causing offenders to feel like victims. We are all different, we are tribal which means we take an attitude against other groups and this happens in all societies and in all manner of formats. I am prepared to bet that when Seb Bassong is in London he doesn''t feel he needs protection from racists; he might have more to fear from black on black crime - for which The Met has a specialised unit; because of his status and wealth. And here is another thing; the difficulties young black boys in our cities face from gangs, rivals and avoiding membership in general is far worse than racism. It threatens everything from their education to their lives. Meanwhile, society frets over a few morons on Twitter. I bet Seb sees a much bigger picture. Sebastian, we might have a few idiots but you can feel safe and welcome in Norwich.[/quote]Or he feels that he might get mugged regardless of colour.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-20436164 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites