the right wing dilemma (snodgrass vs bennett)

[technika 0]

sooooooooo, snodgrass or bennett ?

snodgrass delivery is good but he doesnt seem to have a right foot and is very predictable, cuts inside EVERY time, bennett is still young but has raw pace to burn so can beat people, and as we know from last year has a half tidy finish

who would you pick?

if hughton is going to keep starting snodgrass, id like to see pilkington on the right and snodgrass on the left

[Rolf Harris 33]

                HoltPilkington Bennett Snodgrass            ?????????????

[Mungo Bumpkin 0]

For me, no dilemna. It''s got to be the lad Bennett every time. Works so much harder than Snoddy.

 

[pete 371]

Why not Snoddy on the left wouldn''t need to cut in all the time, can still hit deadballs.  Benno to resume on the right.  Pilks has looked decidedly below par needs a kickstart seems to lack confidence. 

[Dodge 0]

Both quality and both different types of player. Snodgrass missed Martin''s support play at the weekend but still delivered really good balls into the box. Love Bennett too, very dynamic, great at covering back and lifts the game but not quite the same delivery,

Hard call but looking where most of our goals come from would have to say Snodgrass ATM.

[technika 0]

@Cheyou would drop hoolahan ? i think hes a bit of luxury tbf but hes in decent form right now, could play snodgrass instead of hoolahan and then play bennett right/pilks left

id like to see snodgrass played on the left though just to see how more comfortable he is, frustrating as hell watching him do the same thing over again

[chicken 0]

I''m a bit baffled as to why Hughton doesn''t switch wingers during games when he has both Snodgrass and Pilkington on the pitch. Both clearly want to cut inside onto their preferred foot.

Seems to make sense to do that for a bit and then switch them so that a quick cross into the box also becomes an option.

[Thirsty Lizard 3,215]

Thing is though that in the last few games Snoddy has been crossing with his right foot.

He actually put in a few decent crosses with his right against Villa when he came on as a sub.

I''m guessing that he''s been working hard on it on the training ground.

[Jacoljam 0]

Snodgrass on the left, Pilkington on the bench.

[Redders Right Foot 22]

I do actually think that snoddy might replace pilks soon, he hasn''t had a great few games.

but as for the right wing, I think it''s more of the team we''re playing

a physical back 4 calls for snodgrass IMO. big lad who can hold his own, whereas bennet is very pacey but knocked off the ball easier than snoddy.

and lets not forget, snodgrass is only 24, so he is young too.

[GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 2,035]

i think is youre playing with two strikers ,you need wingers who can beat a full back and get crosses in from the byline, which would probably be Bennett. However if you''re playing a lone striker as we currently are then you need widemen who can cut inside and chip in with goals, which is possibly more suited to Snodgrass. A third alternative would be to play Bennett and Sondgrass on the left?!?....did he ever play there at Leeds?

[PurpleCanary 6,381]

[quote user="GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary"]i think is youre playing with two strikers ,you need wingers who can beat a full back and get crosses in from the byline, which would probably be Bennett. However if you''re playing a lone striker as we currently are then you need widemen who can cut inside and chip in with goals, which is possibly more suited to Snodgrass. A third alternative would be to play Bennett and Sondgrass on the left?!?....did he ever play there at Leeds?[/quote]

 

I don''t get to see many games, and I may just have been unlucky, but I have never seen Bennett genuinely beat a full-back on the outside. Not once. He is reasonably quick and reasonably tricky, but from what I have seen not quick and/or tricky enough to get past PL full-backs. I rather assumed it was that inability that prompted Hughton to buy another right-winger.

[Nexus_Canary 1,206]

For once we have a real issue at hand and the decision betweenPilkington, QualityBenno, Pure QualitySnoddy, QualityThis is the sort of problem that I bet has Hughton really thinking. For me its Pilks and Benno. I think Benno''s work rate and tenacity is fantastic, he has been missing the final ball of late. BUT with this sorted he is the real deal.Would love to see Benno on the right and Snoddy on the left ?Still, for once there is no donkey here ! :D

[RvWs 4 year contract 0]

[quote user="Nexus_Canary"]For once we have a real issue at hand and the decision betweenPilkington, QualityBenno, Pure QualitySnoddy, QualityThis is the sort of problem that I bet has Hughton really thinking. For me its Pilks and Benno. I think Benno''s work rate and tenacity is fantastic, he has been missing the final ball of late. BUT with this sorted he is the real deal.Would love to see Benno on the right and Snoddy on the left ?Still, for once there is no donkey here ! :D[/quote]Correct. Surman plays on the left...

[Cantiaci Canary 610]

Don''t forget Snodgrass also wins more than his fair share of free kicks!

 

 

[Phillip J Fry 0]

Offensively, Snodgrass just offers so much more than Bennett. Statistically, Snodgrass is probably the best winger we have in the offensive stage. He attempts more crosses, his crossing accuracy is significantly higher, he attempts more shots and attempts (and completes) more passess indicating that he is always trying to be an attacking influence in the game. Bennett sometimes allow the game to pass him by (Pilkington too) and doesn''t try to impose himself on the game.

Snodgrass isn''t fast but he is an exceedingly good dribbler, he''s one of the best in the league at beating an opponent statistically, he must''ve gone past his full-back about 4 times on Saturday thanks to his clever feet. Bennett seems to lack that confidence to run past the full-back. He''s fast enough, but does he believe he can do it himself?

Bennett''s biggest strengths at the moment are his defensive ability, work rate and energy. He provides (IMO) a great balance on the right side as a player. 

The issue is whether we want a more offensive player on the right hand side or a player that offers a greater balance to the team, I echo the thoughts that I would like to see Snodgrass go left and Bennett right, but if that''s not an option, then it has to be Snodgrass for me.  

[Gingerpele 0]

Pilkington is much better than Snod in my opinion, but he''s very inconsistent.

His cross and shot are very good, and he''s pretty quick and gets past the FB easily.

But that doesn''t happen as often as it should, don''t know exactly why he either doesn''t start games well, or fades out badly. When he isn''t on top he''s often poor, not even average. If he were average when he wasn''t on top, then he''d probably be too good for us. If he finds that consistency I wouldn''t be surprised to see a few teams above us coming in for him.

Onto Benno and Snod. Bennett could be a top winger if he went past his man more often, something he has the pace to do. He''s faster than most PL LBs he''s gone up against. It can''t be managerial instruction, because Snod and Pilks, even Martin from FB and Tierney last year try to get past the FB. It''s just a confidence or style thing with Bennett I think, he doesn''t want to take many risks. His defensive work is great, and he always links up well. Snod, he isn''t my favourite player at the moment, I think he wastes the ball a lot. His set pieces are very inconsistent, but are getting better (our last 4 goals all from his set pieces, but only one directly and one was a short pass). He seems to lack a certain amount of decision making I think. Often either does the wrong thing, or overthinks and loses the ball.

Personally right now I''d chose Bennett over Snod, and definitely Pilks on the left, with Hoolahan we can almost afford to have Pilks inconstancy, as you nearly always get something good from Wes.

I don''t get why people want Snod on the left, I was under the impression he''s always played on the right or in the middle...

[Pyro Pete 2,353]

Snodgrass does provide a good dead ball delivery and his tendency to

look for a goal inside also makes him an asset.  But he is slow - which

has consequences against the teams that move the ball quickly.  With Benno

you know he will give everything in attack and defence all game, every

game. Snodgrass, like Pilks, tends to go off the boil. Benno can''t beat his man? Villa were reduced to ten men because they kept hacking him down every time he got past them. No doubting it''s

good to have the choice depending on the opposition though.

[Gingerpele 0]

Pyro, it''s not the he can''t, it''s that he doesn''t want to.

And Villa went reduced beauty he repeatedly did it, he did it about 3 or 4 times, which is more than usual because the first time he did it, it worked, and soon after got the player booked.

[smooth 114]

Be no has average pace for the premiership, work rate is good and defensively he has improved greatly closing wingers down.

Snoddy is a tricky intelligent winger who can carve an opportunity. Eb struggles so much with his crossing.

Tough one, but snoddy does get into the right places in the box, you never think eb is going to score in a game. That is what we need.

I would even say a winger in the summer could still come in, the premiership is about pace and I would love us to have that genuine threat

[Gingerpele 0]

Bennett has average pace?

Lol, based on what?

I can''t remember a single LB he has run past catch him...

[Canary_on_the Trent 0]

The sort of dilemma managers love to have.

Hughton has options wide & they''re all different types of wingers.

Surman is also an option if we''re playing a flat 4 in midfield or the diamond but when Pilkington & Bennett were both out injured we were seriously lacking pace & directness.

Also worth noting Bennett was very effective at times in the diamond, at the tip or on the right.

I do wonder how effective Snodgrass could be on the left, he may not beat a full back on the outside for pace but given a yard of space would his crossing not be more effective?

[Webbo118 0]

[quote user="PurpleCanary"]

[quote user="GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary"]i think is youre playing with two strikers ,you need wingers who can beat a full back and get crosses in from the byline, which would probably be Bennett. However if you''re playing a lone striker as we currently are then you need widemen who can cut inside and chip in with goals, which is possibly more suited to Snodgrass. A third alternative would be to play Bennett and Sondgrass on the left?!?....did he ever play there at Leeds?[/quote]

 

I don''t get to see many games, and I may just have been unlucky, but I have never seen Bennett genuinely beat a full-back on the outside. Not once. He is reasonably quick and reasonably tricky, but from what I have seen not quick and/or tricky enough to get past PL full-backs. I rather assumed it was that inability that prompted Hughton to buy another right-winger.

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I wouldn''t have thought that had a lot to do with it at all. You always have to be looking at improving the quality of the squad with two players (at least) competing for a place. If you stand still on the recruitment front, you can only go backwards.

[Webbo118 0]

[quote user="Canary_on_the Trent"]The sort of dilemma managers love to have. Hughton has options wide & they''re all different types of wingers. Surman is also an option if we''re playing a flat 4 in midfield or the diamond but when Pilkington & Bennett were both out injured we were seriously lacking pace & directness. Also worth noting Bennett was very effective at times in the diamond, at the tip or on the right. I do wonder how effective Snodgrass could be on the left, he may not beat a full back on the outside for pace but given a yard of space would his crossing not be more effective?[/quote]

 

I agree. I see little point in arguing that Player A is better than Player B but not as good as Player C. They all have plenty to offer and am sure they will all make big contributions over the season.

[Tetteys Jig 851]

[quote user="chicken"]I''m a bit baffled as to why Hughton doesn''t switch wingers during games when he has both Snodgrass and Pilkington on the pitch. Both clearly want to cut inside onto their preferred foot.

Seems to make sense to do that for a bit and then switch them so that a quick cross into the box also becomes an option.[/quote]

vs spurs they did, caused them all sorts of problems

[priceyrice 133]

Problem solved (perhaps even 2 problems depending on your view) if Bennett played RB. I know it''s been harped on about but he has all the right attributes, surely it is something which has worked on in training??

I think Gareth summed it up nicely earlier with some stats. Snodgrass does beat his man a lot, i think people on here forget that, he is often forced to dily daly with it after though with a lack of genuine options, but that comes with playing our formation, we will often break with only Holt, a winger and Wes carrying the ball. 

I expect Snodgrass will win his fair share of penalities this season too, something which could be quite vital.

[Highland Canary 78]

I''d like to see Bennett''s pace back in the team. Equally, I think Snograss offers offensive threat that we need. I''d be minded to bench Pilkington who fades in and out of games.

[lincoln canary (& Golden Coppel) 0]

Personally I''d have Benno ahead of Snodgrass. I''d also like to see Fox, Surman & Hoolahan in the same team again as when they play togther we are very good at keeping the ball and very inventive with our play.

                            Tettey Fox

                  Bennet  Hoolahan Surman

                                Holt

 

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[Salopian 1]

Benno for me, although I would be happy to include both if it is possible.

 

Benno may lack the consistency in crossing - he has hit some too long this season, but he more than makes up for this by two things. The first is pace. Opponents can''t afford to leave him unmarked as they surge upfield, or they''ll never catch him. They are immmedaietly handicpped in attack. They are further handicapped by the fact that he is quick to get back and tackle effectively. If it became necessary, He could fill in very efffectively at RB!

 

I don''t think that we have seen the best of Benno yet. Pre-season in 2011 he hit a screamer from 30+ yards into the top corner.  Last season he hit the very good goal while at full pelt. It may be a thing of confidence, and a few more games under his belt, but I hope to see something special from him in goal scoring this season.

[Renskay 38]

ST Pilkington LM Snodgrass RM Kyle Bennett RB Elliott Bennett, Ideal :D