CanaryOne 0 Posted August 29, 2012 [quote user="Gingerpele"]Ncfc, your having a laugh right?[/quote]No just another lower league striker going through a purple patch , Southampton are said to be offering him around for £3.5 million so they are not to keen on him at Premiership level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom cavendish 0 Posted August 29, 2012 [quote user="Ncfc"][quote user="Gingerpele"]Ncfc, your having a laugh right?[/quote]No just another lower league striker going through a purple patch , Southampton are said to be offering him around for £3.5 million so they are not to keen on him at Premiership level.[/quote]Chris Hughton said that he thinks Rickie Lambert will score goals at Premier League level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanaryOne 0 Posted August 29, 2012 Of course he will score a goal or two just like Holt will but the truth is neither of those two has that bit of class needed in the Premier League, they look lower league players , i believe Lambert is actually a better option than Holt (far better shot on him for starters) but if we want to stay up we need better . Do we really want to sign a striker that a newly promoted club do not consider good enough ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bury Yellow 2 Posted August 29, 2012 Brilliant Ncfc. Lambert is better than Holt but of course he will score a goal or two. Simply brilliant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,531 Posted August 29, 2012 [quote user="Bury Yellow"]Brilliant Ncfc. Lambert is better than Holt but of course he will score a goal or two. Simply brilliant.[/quote] Beware of cukoos in the canary nest Bury. It may not be just Archant that harbours them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,531 Posted August 29, 2012 cuckoos [:D] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanaryOne 0 Posted August 29, 2012 Yes Lambert better than Holt yet Saints want rid of him , Norwich give Holt a contract untill he''s nearly 35 , to me Holt will flop big time this season time will tell who''s right and who''s wrong . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Klose 0 Posted August 29, 2012 [quote user="Ncfc"]Of course he will score a goal or two just like Holt will but the truth is neither of those two has that bit of class needed in the Premier League, they look lower league players , i believe Lambert is actually a better option than Holt (far better shot on him for starters) but if we want to stay up we need better . Do we really want to sign a striker that a newly promoted club do not consider good enough ?[/quote]Ok, names? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom cavendish 0 Posted August 29, 2012 Lambert might be wanting to leave rather than Southampton wanting to sell. He will certainly want a better contract. His family were attacked so he might not be keen on the Southampton area.Holt scored 23 goals in the promotion season from the Championship, Lambert scored 31.Lambert scores amazing goals. Have a watch of this:http://youtu.be/kVUWmeE16us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 0 Posted August 29, 2012 I would consider that comparing the two is rather futile.Mainly because Lambert has always been a ''target man'' as you would expect of someone that is 6''2". And as such is not as quick as Holt, and does not approach games with the same sort of attitude.I believe Holt has not always played as a target man which is why he often drifts wider. He has often played off a target man or even out wide whilst playing for previous clubs. I guess this is primarily because he is 6'' on the nose which probably didn''t make coaches think of him as being that much taller than the average which is an asset an old fashioned target man is seen to have.Both are quality players in the own right. Lambert has come from a higher level so his work ethic is different, his approach is different and therefore his style is different. There is something much rawer about Holt, he is incredibly instinctive and a warrior, a battler. For me that side of Holt may cost him a couple of goals a season but is far more beneficial to the team as a whole. Not to mention he is a leader.So silly really to compare the two NCFC.As for saying neither are premiership players. Scoring 10+ goals a season in the prem equates to being pretty reasonable so the stats suggest anyway.Sure you may well want a real goal getter but they can cost a fair amount of dosh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trawlerboy 0 Posted August 29, 2012 [quote user="Ncfc"]No just another lower league striker going through a purple patch [/quote] A purple patch which has lasted all of 5 years? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trawlerboy 0 Posted August 29, 2012 [quote user="chicken"]Mainly because Lambert has always been a ''target man'' [/quote] Incorrect, as Lambert actually played mostly as a central midfielder, prior Paul Trollope giving him a run upfront for Bristol Rovers towards the end of the 2007/08 season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,756 Posted August 29, 2012 [quote user="Trawlerboy"][quote user="Ncfc"]No just another lower league striker going through a purple patch [/quote] A purple patch which has lasted all of 5 years? [/quote][:D] Quite a deep purple as well. 2006–07Bristol RoversLeague Two39*9**50005149102007–08League One461386201057192008–09452910101048292009–101100000011Bristol Rovers Total131521463071155592009–10SouthamptonLeague One453052216358362010–11452140201052212011–12Championship392722420045312012–13Premier League2100000021Southampton Total12979114837315689 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,557 Posted August 29, 2012 Of course, talking about these particular strikers, if Glenn Roeder hadn''t been obsessed in the summer of 2008 with vainly trying to persuade Rosenborg to keep the promise they''d apparently made to sell Steffen Iversen and had cut his losses and signed either Holt (who went from Forest to Shrewsbury for a measly £170,000) or Lambert, who was at Bristol Rovers and might well have cost about the same, then we wouldn''t have ended up playing Darel Russell up front and that whole season would have been a triumph and Roeder would still be our manager...[;)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,531 Posted August 29, 2012 [quote user="Trawlerboy"][quote user="chicken"] Mainly because Lambert has always been a ''target man'' [/quote] Incorrect, as Lambert actually played mostly as a central midfielder, prior Paul Trollope giving him a run upfront for Bristol Rovers towards the end of the 2007/08 season. [/quote] Do you still think we should have signed Lambert and not Holty Smudge? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobbyLo 0 Posted August 29, 2012 Hey guys! How about you stop being retarded?! Reading this board sometimes is like listening to Canary Call while on a come down... ill informed, fluffy and mildly depressing, leaving one with a thought of ''why the F did I bother?!''Holt is still a good player and will score goals this season. He is our talisman and his influence around the club should not go unnoticed. He typifies what we''ve tried to do at this wonderful club and, to be honest, has been reasonably successful at it. We know he always starts off slowly. Give it some time.Rickie Lambert. Strikes the ball sweeter than most ''popular'' Prem strikers and would certainly be a good addition to our squad. Forget about his age, he is hungry to succeed in this league and it would be in his interest to continue doing well. I don''t think he''d sign for us, but he certainly would be better that some names I''ve heard bandied about. What should we do? Continue with out policy of signing players with summat to prove? Or do a QPR and sign over priced journeymen who were lucky to become high profile players in the first place? Look how disjointed they look and then think about your comments again.Peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bury Yellow 2 Posted August 29, 2012 Holty Smudge eh Nutty. Is that some sort of sexual evidence? ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom cavendish 0 Posted August 29, 2012 Have a watch of these goals:http://youtu.be/Otwjuj8Ib-8http://youtu.be/T3r_a377MaUhttp://youtu.be/QLyArsgvfk0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,531 Posted August 29, 2012 Could be Bury.. Holty and Lambert playing together again isn''t the daftest idea ever. Back 2005/6 they paired up for Rochdale and were the most feared strike partnership in League 2 scoring nearly 40 goals between them. (Don''t know how that fits with Paul Trollope turning him into a striker at his next club though) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,738 Posted August 29, 2012 [quote user="nutty nigel"]Could be Bury.. Holty and Lambert playing together again isn''t the daftest idea ever. Back 2005/6 they paired up for Rochdale and were the most feared strike partnership in League 2 scoring nearly 40 goals between them. (Don''t know how that fits with Paul Trollope turning him into a striker at his next club though) [/quote]If he was not turned into a striker until Trollope got to work on him at Bristol Rovers he must have been some player at Rochdale to score 28 goals in 64 games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trawlerboy 0 Posted August 30, 2012 Read what was said boys.Lambert played the majority of his games as a centre midfielder until the end of the 2007/08 season.I did not said that he never played as a striker up to that point in time, simply that the majority of his career was spent playing in centre midfield up until that point. This explains the apparent lack of goals in many of the earlier seasons in Lambert''s career."Educated at Liverpool''s Kirkby Sports College - which produced European Cup-winning captains Phil Thompson and Dennis Mortimer - Lambert was released from Anfield as a teenager.After being released by then Blackpool manager Steve McMahon in 2000, after three substitute appearances, a spell out of the game followed. When he had another go, it was hardly A-List stuff. Spells in midfield at Macclesfield - where he was initially paid only expenses - Stockport and Rochdale preceded his move to Rovers. His scoring record during this time was acceptable without being remarkable. Old school friend and Blackpool team-mate Danny Coid, now at Accrington, said: ''We played up front together for our schools and practised on the astro-turf outside Rickie''s house in Kirkby. ''I''d pass to him but he''d never pass back. He''d shoot from all angles. He always had more strength and power than anyone else. After Blackpool, I''d go to his house and he was really low. We used to see other lads we knew getting contracts. Maybe it was a kick up the backside for him."Carry on talking out of your backsides now if you like? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,531 Posted August 30, 2012 FFS he won the golden boot at Rochdale Smudger. Lambert and Holt are legends there because for once Rochdale had the most feared strike force in the division. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,531 Posted August 30, 2012 Oh......... and....... it''s scarf and tie! I keep tellin'' ya[;)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trawlerboy 0 Posted August 30, 2012 [quote user="nutty nigel"]FFS he won the golden boot at Rochdale Smudger. Lambert and Holt are legends there because for once Rochdale had the most feared strike force in the division. [/quote]Oh, so the Daily Mail must be wrong and Nutty Nigel must be correct then, because approx one season in his first twelve played upfront means that "Lambert has always been a ''target man"''?Dear oh dear, you really couldn''t make it up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trawlerboy 0 Posted August 30, 2012 2000-01 and 2001-02 Midfielder/forward FL League 36(8)8 Cups 5(0)2 Debut 3 March 2001 Chesterfield (Home) A former Blackpool trainee, Rickie joined the Silkmen in December 2000, initially playing most of his football in the Youth and Reserve teams in the centre of midfield where he gave some impressive performances. He broke into the senior side towards the end of the season and was promoted to the first-team squad for the 2001-02 season, quickly becoming a regular in the starting line-up where he was equally effective in midfield or as a striker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trawlerboy 0 Posted August 30, 2012 http://menmedia.co.uk/rochdaleobserver/sport/football/rochdale/s/146/146308_dale_move_for_county_midfielder.htmlSTOCKPORT County manager Chris Turner revealed on Monday that Dale had made a bid for Rickie Lambert. He said Lambert was in talks with Dale after the clubs had agreed a fee which has not been made public. Lambert, a midfielder, joined County from Macclesfield Town in 2002. He began his professional career with Blackpool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trawlerboy 0 Posted August 30, 2012 Hatters (Stockport County) midfielder Rickie Lambert isfacing stiff opposition for place in the starting line-up - frommanager Carlton Palmer.The former England man has decided to play on this season andintends to feature in the midfield. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan_Grey 0 Posted August 30, 2012 Crikey, what a little baby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trawlerboy 0 Posted August 30, 2012 http://www.not606.com/showthread.php/131239-Lambert-on-Football-Focus25/03/2012, 11:35 PM"But last week on Late Kick Off, Leroy Rosenior mentioned that he''d first seen a young Rickie Lambert playing for Rochdale, in midfield. There''s the answer; there''s the explanation for so many good passes, through balls and assists. He knows where players are because part of his learning was playing in the middle."I think that Leroy Rosenior knows a little more about lower league football than Nutty Nigel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trawlerboy 0 Posted August 30, 2012 Rochdale v Shrewsbury Town, 26 November 2005 Score 4-3 to Rochdale Referee Brian Curson Competition League Two Venue Spotland Attendance 2,845 View Rochdale v Shrewsbury Town head to head 4 Rochdale 3 Shrewsbury Town Goals: Grant Holt penalty 6 Rickie Lambert 47 Grant Holt 78 Rickie Lambert 81 Goals: Colin McMenamin 3 Gavin Cowan 9 Mark Stallard 42 Rochdale Starting lineup: Goalkeeper Matthew Gilks Defender/Right back Gary Brown Defender Neil Brisco Defender Jamie Clarke Defender/Centre back Rory McArdle Defender/Midfielder Alan Goodall Defender/Left back Tony Gallimore Midfielder Gary Jones Midfielder/Forward Rickie Lambert Forward Grant Holt Forward Blair Sturrock Shrewsbury Town Starting lineup: Goalkeeper Joe Hart Defender/Right back Ben Herd Defender Gavin Cowan Defender/Centre back Richard Hope Defender/Centre back Stuart Whitehead Defender/Midfielder Neil Ashton Midfielder Neil Sorvel Midfielder Jamie Tolley Midfielder David Edwards Forward Colin McMenamin Forward Mark StallardLooks like Rochdale employed a 3-5-2 of sorts?Blair Sturrock made 33 appearances for Rochdale that season. So with some of Lamberts games being from midfield that season, YES he was one hell of a player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites