jim blair 0 Posted August 9, 2012 Blackburn boss Steve Kean is set to seal a £6million deal for Huddersfield striker Jordan Rhodes (Daily Mirror)Firmly believe we are missing the boat here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
super canary 0 Posted August 9, 2012 I''m beginning to think that i am the only one who is so VERY glad that we are not getting Rhodes. I would be hugely disappointing if we paid what is being reported he is worth for a, at the moment, championship player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beauseant 0 Posted August 9, 2012 [quote user="super canary"]I''m beginning to think that i am the only one who is so VERY glad that we are not getting Rhodes. I would be hugely disappointing if we paid what is being reported he is worth for a, at the moment, championship player.[/quote] You''re not. £6m for a lad who has never played a Championship game is the sort of blind gamble which has made Kean the highly respected manager he is. Maybe he''ll come good, but I have my doubts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Green Army 248 Posted August 9, 2012 Yeah £6m seems rather expensive for Rhodes, would be much happier to get him for £3.5 - £4m max. Not sure why he would want to go to Blackburn to be honest unless the rumours of £35K a week are true. If money is his main motivation then we are better off without him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWC 315 Posted August 9, 2012 I''m with you there SC - if we were to be paying that sort of money, I would like to see someone who is proven at premier level, or has more than one season in the championship.Some of his youtube stuff reminds me a bit of earnie - same sort of predatory ability and quite selfish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricky knight 0 Posted August 9, 2012 i dont care what league he came from if he score 40 goals a season, he knows where the net is, Holt has proved that you can bridge the gap, i know who my money would be on to score more goals out of him and vaughn, we look very thin on the ground for goalscorers imo, we need a striker who can score goals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gingerpele 0 Posted August 9, 2012 I agree with Super and Beau.Rhodes for £2-3 million with a couple of performance related add ons, yeah fine. But £6 million? No way, we might have a decent sized budget, but we scored plenty of goals last season and spending more than double what we''ve spent on most of our players on a striker who may not make it. Also, its unlikely he''ll get ahead of Holt and Morison in the near future, far too much money for him really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
super canary 0 Posted August 9, 2012 I''m glad it isn''t just me then! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Wal 315 Posted August 9, 2012 Super Canary - It''s definitely not just you. I''m very pleased we are not spending that sort of cash for an unproven player at a higher level.The comparison to Holt is OK but we didn''t pay £6M for him. We paid for a League 1 player who has developed with us.There have been plenty of top Premiership managers looking at Rhodes and none have considered it a worthwhile gamble.Steve Kean has already proved his worth as a top manager! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
super canary 0 Posted August 9, 2012 [quote user="ricky knight"]i dont care what league he came from if he score 40 goals a season, he knows where the net is, Holt has proved that you can bridge the gap, i know who my money would be on to score more goals out of him and vaughn, we look very thin on the ground for goalscorers imo, we need a striker who can score goals.[/quote]Holt didn''t cost 6 million though. Maybe PSG can lend us some bunse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lavanche 0 Posted August 9, 2012 @ricky knight:Yeah lets then sign Alexander 46 goals in 35 games playing in Estonian league last year and we would probably got him quite cheap.It really does matter which league you play and I''m quite sure this Rhodes guy would have been quite a big flop if he had jumped straight to premiership.I havent ever seen him play and dont know how he scores or does he really have talent in him, but for example in junior football there is lot of strikers that scores great ammounts of goals because they have pace or lenght and opposition doesnt have defence to cope with that one skill. In lower leagues all around players seems to be dominant and at least what I watched in youtube he seems to be jack of all trades and not anything spectacular.In top leagues things changes quite drastically compared to lower leagues and I''m quite sure he wouldnt be anything more if not less that we have already on our bench. He isnt fast enough for premier defences, he isnt tall enough to beat long CB''s in the air and his shot is quite average for top GK''s to catch. He knows where the goal is, but does premier league defences leave him that open and "spit the ball" to his leg like League 1 did.I prefer Holt if we want to use poacher and if we want new striker I would like to see someone who can make goals out of nothing with his skill and pace. (Not that Holt wouldnt do that once in a while with his strenght and courage)I''m happy Rhodes didnt come this way. Ofc he can become premium striker, but he is already 22 years and primary attributes for strikers (speed, shot and dribble) are quite developed already and if he doenst look that good in youtube its hard to believe he would be anything special.Heh I made it sound like he would be bad player. That wasnt my intention, but I just dont think we should use players like him more than 1-2 millions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 6,386 Posted August 9, 2012 I would be wary of the £6m figure. Even if ultimately true it is likely to include significant add-ons, such as one dependent on promotion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricky knight 0 Posted August 9, 2012 6 mill paper talk imo 2/3 in reality with a few add ons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ROBFLECK 134 Posted August 9, 2012 I''d rather have us spending 6 million on Naughton then!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk Mustard 106 Posted August 9, 2012 Rhodes would be a good buy at £2-3m – I’m comparing him with the likes of CMS & Lee Barnard here – but at £6m (however the figure is arrived at) that’s simply too much. Timing is everything and right now, Blackburn’s need is greater than ours and they are prepared to pay for it. Even if we did acquire Rhodes, we couldn’t guarantee him a starting place unless we sold one or more of our present strikers could we? Looking at Champ/League 1 players making the move to the Prem, our lads have done extremely well; so well in fact, I think some of us assume it’s easier than it really is. Elliott Bennett’s goal against Spurs shows what he’s capable of. Even though Pilks should have found the back of the net when clean through at Old Trafford his free kick against Villa indicates his potential. Morison was absolutely deadly finishing against Arsenal. Ryan Bennett already looks a future England candidate and Ruddy has already reached the England squad. It’s fantastic progress and shows brilliant recruitment. This season, like a lot of others on here, I sense we’re going to see Hughton setting out the team with one lead striker and plenty of support movement from a packed midfield. Jacob Butterfield could be a revelation this season; Howson is starting to look the part – and Wes we know about already. Snodgrass is likely to provide some classy assists and notch goals himself. If Vaughan manages to stay fit (questionable, I know!) we already have perfectly decent firepower for a club of our standing. Oh, and Simeon Jackson – almost forgot about him! Then we have Grant Holt; retaining him is a wonderful bonus – there must be plenty of Prem teams who’d welcome what he brings to the party. With Sunderland about to empty their coffers to Wolves for a single striker who they hope might net them 15 goals this season I think we are rather fortunate to have the personnel we already have. Getting back to Jordan Rhodes; as a warning, compared to our impressive record of player recruitment Connor Wickham hasn’t proved to be particularly shrewd buy for Sunderland has he? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanaryOne 0 Posted August 9, 2012 [quote user="ROBFLECK"]I''d rather have us spending 6 million on Naughton then!!![/quote]But we do not seem to be getting involved with Naughton either , all points to not very much money available to the Manager . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 0 Posted August 9, 2012 [quote user="Ncfc"][quote user="ROBFLECK"]I''d rather have us spending 6 million on Naughton then!!![/quote]But we do not seem to be getting involved with Naughton either , all points to not very much money available to the Manager .[/quote] Thus spake Wz''s apprentice..................... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
super canary 0 Posted August 9, 2012 [quote user="Ncfc"][quote user="ROBFLECK"]I''d rather have us spending 6 million on Naughton then!!![/quote]But we do not seem to be getting involved with Naughton either , all points to not very much money available to the Manager .[/quote]Chris Goreham had an interview with CH today. CH saying he wants to add but the signings need to be right for the club. Also that he expects to be busy right up to deadline day.I''m positive that we are trying to add more quality. But it does need to be at the right price. If we go into the season with the squad we have now i will be happy. More importantly, i will be confident that this squad is again capable of keeping us up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gingerpele 0 Posted August 9, 2012 No all points to Hughton being fairly happy with the players who achieved 12th place last season to do the same again tha season.Why why why do Norich fans have to be so negative, we finished 12th, we''ve made a couple of decent signings and will probably make another one or two. We finished 12th last season, our players are improving. We don''t need to buy to succeed. We need to keep going with out current team building strategy. There was always going to be a point where we would only need a couple of players in, in the managers view. He''s the man in charge, he kows what''s going on. Why can''t some people just be a bit more optimistic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
super canary 0 Posted August 9, 2012 [quote user="lake district canary"][quote user="Ncfc"][quote user="ROBFLECK"]I''d rather have us spending 6 million on Naughton then!!![/quote]But we do not seem to be getting involved with Naughton either , all points to not very much money available to the Manager .[/quote] Thus spake Wz''s apprentice..................... [/quote]Here we go AGAIN. LDC, why, on a decent thread, do you have to bring Wiz into it. GIVE IT A REST. What is an interesting thread is now going to turn into the WIZ v the lets get Wiz gang. Nice one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricky knight 0 Posted August 9, 2012 [quote user="Norfolk Mustard"]Rhodes would be a good buy at £2-3m – I’m comparing him with the likes of CMS & Lee Barnard here – but at £6m (however the figure is arrived at) that’s simply too much. Timing is everything and right now, Blackburn’s need is greater than ours and they are prepared to pay for it. Even if we did acquire Rhodes, we couldn’t guarantee him a starting place unless we sold one or more of our present strikers could we? Looking at Champ/League 1 players making the move to the Prem, our lads have done extremely well; so well in fact, I think some of us assume it’s easier than it really is. Elliott Bennett’s goal against Spurs shows what he’s capable of. Even though Pilks should have found the back of the net when clean through at Old Trafford his free kick against Villa indicates his potential. Morison was absolutely deadly finishing against Arsenal. Ryan Bennett already looks a future England candidate and Ruddy has already reached the England squad. It’s fantastic progress and shows brilliant recruitment. This season, like a lot of others on here, I sense we’re going to see Hughton setting out the team with one lead striker and plenty of support movement from a packed midfield. Jacob Butterfield could be a revelation this season; Howson is starting to look the part – and Wes we know about already. Snodgrass is likely to provide some classy assists and notch goals himself. If Vaughan manages to stay fit (questionable, I know!) we already have perfectly decent firepower for a club of our standing. Oh, and Simeon Jackson – almost forgot about him! Then we have Grant Holt; retaining him is a wonderful bonus – there must be plenty of Prem teams who’d welcome what he brings to the party. With Sunderland about to empty their coffers to Wolves for a single striker who they hope might net them 15 goals this season I think we are rather fortunate to have the personnel we already have. Getting back to Jordan Rhodes; as a warning, compared to our impressive record of player recruitment Connor Wickham hasn’t proved to be particularly shrewd buy for Sunderland has he? [/quote]Connor Wickham was never in the same league as Rhodes in the goals scored stakes. compare his record to Rhodes before signing for Sunderland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted August 9, 2012 [quote user="jim blair"]Blackburn boss Steve Kean is set to seal a £6million deal for Huddersfield striker Jordan Rhodes (Daily Mirror)Firmly believe we are missing the boat here. [/quote]A slight difference to us signing him as we are in the Prem. No doubt he will perform in the Champs but Blackburn have money, are desperate and can afford to write off six million if promoted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nexus_Canary 1,206 Posted August 9, 2012 We already missed the boat as Jay Rod went to Saints ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted August 9, 2012 Where we''re going we don''t need Rhodes... Sorry, I''ll get my coat. [:S] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted August 9, 2012 [quote user="Wiz"]Where we''re going we don''t need Rhodes... Sorry, I''ll get my coat. [:S][/quote]Your humour Wiz is streets ahead of some others on here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeelansGlove 0 Posted August 9, 2012 I would agree in general that our players are improving in most areas , except up front.Hopefully Holt will be reliable as ever.Morison has been severely of the boil since Christmas.Jackson has worked hard but never really threatened to deliver goals.Vaughan has had a full season out injuredMartin was surplus to requirement last year, whats changed ?Wilbo has gone (sadly)Can anybody honestly say that if they had known the above they would have been happy going into the season ?We obviously hope to further increase the goals scored from midfield by Pilks , Benno and Snoddy but I really dont see that we are strong enough up front. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yorkshire Canary 118 Posted August 9, 2012 Of course £6m would be a gamble, but if he does come off then his value could easily go up 3 or 4 fold. If he did not come off in the premiership then i think he would still be sought after in the championship and probably still be worth £3m or so. Contrast that with fletcher ok striker got about 10 goals in the premiership last year with a relegated side but look at the fee now £12 to £15m those figures really are a gamble for whoever i s willing to pay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted August 9, 2012 [quote user="Yorkshire Canary"]Of course £6m would be a gamble, but if he does come off then his value could easily go up 3 or 4 fold. If he did not come off in the premiership then i think he would still be sought after in the championship and probably still be worth £3m or so. Contrast that with fletcher ok striker got about 10 goals in the premiership last year with a relegated side but look at the fee now £12 to £15m those figures really are a gamble for whoever i s willing to pay[/quote]Fletcher though is proven whereas Rhodes is not. I''d rather have Fletcher than Rhodes but neither at those prices. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,471 Posted August 9, 2012 In cnotext, we paid Crew 3 million 7 seasons ago for Ashton, Rhodes is worth every penny of the 6 million on his scoring record 71 goals in 122 games! Fletcher is over rated and at 12 million plus daft wages far too much of a risk! Rhodes should have been on the target for this club! Sad that he isn''t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted August 9, 2012 [quote user="Indy"]In cnotext, we paid Crew 3 million 7 seasons ago for Ashton, Rhodes is worth every penny of the 6 million on his scoring record 71 goals in 122 games! Fletcher is over rated and at 12 million plus daft wages far too much of a risk! Rhodes should have been on the target for this club! Sad that he isn''t.[/quote]I wouldn''t mention Rhodes and Ashton in the same breath. Ashton was a class above. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites