Site for a new stadium?

[lappinitup 629]

[quote user="tom cavendish"]100,000+ people visit the Norfolk show (spread over 2 days) at the Showground so it should be able to cope with 35,000 - 40,000 for a football match. There would be a massive number of parking spaces.[/quote]Whilst parking spaces may not be a problem, congestion certainly would be. 50,000 visitors to the show per day are spread over 12 hours (6.30am to 6.30pm) and even then, getting in and out is a nightmare at peak times. Can you imagine the mayhem caused by 35/40,000 people arriving or departing at roughly the same time?  The roads would be gridlocked for hours not to mention the policing costs. Sorry Tom, another one of your ideas that you just haven''t thought through.

[tom cavendish 0]

[quote user="lappinitup"][quote user="tom cavendish"]100,000+ people visit the Norfolk show (spread over 2 days) at the Showground so it should be able to cope with 35,000 - 40,000 for a football match. There would be a massive number of parking spaces.[/quote]Whilst parking spaces may not be a problem, congestion certainly would be. 50,000 visitors to the show per day are spread over 12 hours (6.30am to 6.30pm) and even then, getting in and out is a nightmare at peak times. Can you imagine the mayhem caused by 35/40,000 people arriving or departing at roughly the same time?  The roads would be gridlocked for hours not to mention the policing costs. Sorry Tom, another one of your ideas that you just haven''t thought through.[/quote]For the Norfolk Show, most people spend most of the day at the show so there are particular peak times in the morning (as people arrive) and late afternoon (as people leave). Also consider that football attendances would be 20% lower than people attending the Norfolk show for a day.Also, don''t forget that at the times when matches finish there wouldn''t be much other traffic on the roads in that area.Also consider that lots of people arrive at the stadium early for meals and drinks etc. hours before the actual match.The net result would be a similar or less amount of congestion at peak times.

[City penguin 0]

You need to get a life tom. People get paid vast amounts for feasibility studies, because they are demanding and complicated, leave it to the pros go outside and enjoy the soun.

[yellow blood 0]

[quote user="tom cavendish"][quote user="TIL 1010"]

[quote user="tom cavendish"][quote user="Jim Smith"]Not to mention the traffic carnage it would cause (as basically everyone would travel by car and bus) and the distance from the station or are the Club going to pay £x million to re-open the old railway line out and build a new station at the showground?[/quote]

100,000+ people visit the Norfolk show (spread over 2 days) at the Showground so it should be able to cope with 35,000 - 40,000 for a football match. There would be a massive number of parking spaces.
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Yes indeed acres of muddy fields in the middle of winter so will 4x4s be on hand to tow you out at the end of the games ?

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There is a 1,100 space park and ride car park on the site which isn''t used on the weekends and evenings so it would make sense to use that.

So...

A) The showground owners seem willing to lease land for a new stadium (meaning huge savings on the cost of a new stadium)

B) There is a park and ride car park next to the site with 1,100 spaces and it is normally closed when there would be a football match being played. It should be easy to extend the hours for when games are being played.

C) There is a direct bus service to and from the site every 20mins that stops at the UEA and city centre. It should be easy to extend the hours for when games are being played.

D) NC could lease teaching space at the stadium to the UEA (and the site already has a regular bus service to and from the UEA).

E) There would be lower running costs at a new stadium than CR.

F) NC say it would cost £20m just for a new stand at CR.


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A speedway "stadium" is a tad different to a hulking great football ground. The area taken up by the ground, stands and periphery would be huge and mean that a great chunk of the Showground is no longer useful for its current purpose.

[tom cavendish 0]

[quote user="yellow blood"][quote user="tom cavendish"][quote user="TIL 1010"]

[quote user="tom cavendish"][quote user="Jim Smith"]Not to mention the traffic carnage it would cause (as basically everyone would travel by car and bus) and the distance from the station or are the Club going to pay £x million to re-open the old railway line out and build a new station at the showground?[/quote]100,000+ people visit the Norfolk show (spread over 2 days) at the Showground so it should be able to cope with 35,000 - 40,000 for a football match. There would be a massive number of parking spaces.[/quote]

Yes indeed acres of muddy fields in the middle of winter so will 4x4s be on hand to tow you out at the end of the games ?

[/quote]There is a 1,100 space park and ride car park on the site which isn''t used on the weekends and evenings so it would make sense to use that. So... A) The showground owners seem willing to lease land for a new stadium (meaning huge savings on the cost of a new stadium)B) There is a park and ride car park next to the site with 1,100 spaces and it is normally closed when there would be a football match being played. It should be easy to extend the hours for when games are being played.C) There is a direct bus service to and from the site every 20mins that stops at the UEA and city centre. It should be easy to extend the hours for when games are being played.D) NC could lease teaching space at the stadium to the UEA (and the site already has a regular bus service to and from the UEA).E) There would be lower running costs at a new stadium than CR.F) NC say it would cost £20m just for a new stand at CR.

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A speedway "stadium" is a tad different to a hulking great football ground. The area taken up by the ground, stands and periphery would be huge and mean that a great chunk of the Showground is no longer useful for its current purpose.

[/quote]Nope, you are forgetting that the footprint for a speedway track is larger than that of a football pitch (notice that some speedway tracks have a football pitch in the centre). Therefore you need just as much land for a decent speedway stadium as you would a large football only stadium.

[yellow blood 0]

What about the fcuking great stands that a football stadium needs? (Especially if it needs to hold 40K) And the concourse areas, area around the stadium. A speedway stadium needs 1 or possibly 2 stands which would be possibe at the showground. They could also use the grass area as the arena for equestrian events, driving sheep, pig-racing etc. at the RNS.

 

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[quote user="yellow blood"]

What about the fcuking great stands that a football stadium needs? (Especially if it needs to hold 40K) And the concourse areas, area around the stadium. A speedway stadium needs 1 or possibly 2 stands which would be possibe at the showground. They could also use the grass area as the arena for equestrian events, driving sheep, pig-racing etc. at the RNS.

 

[/quote]Speedway stadiums have a wide track around an area in the middle (that it about the size of a football pitch), so the ''total footprint''

of a good sized speedway stadium would be about the same as a new

football stadium (that didn''t have a track).

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[TIL 1010 4,737]

[quote user="tom cavendish"] There would be lower running costs at a new stadium than CR.

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How about putting some meat on the bones of this sweeping statement ?

 

 

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[quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="tom cavendish"] There would be lower running costs at a new stadium than CR.

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How about putting some meat on the bones of this sweeping statement ?

[/quote]A reason given for having the new Jarrold stand was that stands become more expensive to maintain as they get older, so replacing the old stand would save some maintenance costs.

[Bill 1,788]

So what happened to all the mumbo jumbo about the council building City a new stadium at the UEA ?

 

In this latest bout of lunacy we have IKEA wanting to build on Carrow Road because there would be some new houses nearby whose owners might want to buy furniture.

 

 

I''m not too sure how this even barmier scenario would be funded, but it does demonstrate that even the halfwit behind these idiotic bleats now accepts his previous fantasies were totally flawed - hence the desperation to grasp at this nonsense.

 

What should give rise to concern is what happens when reclusive obssessive young men finally do flip. When a singular mania about one fixation spills out into anger at the wider world. Thankfully this is merely at a mild form of aspergers, and hopefully will not manifest itself in any form of violent behaviour.

 

 

Perhaps other interests might help, a girlfriend maybe.

 

 

 

[i,coopius 0]

right as this thread has re-risen i feel i now need to post in aid of young tom, and using no less reason.now that the higgs boson has apparently been discovered in switzerland at the LHC, as is the way with science, a completely independent study would have to be made to clarify these findings. this study is something that the club could bid for (particularly with assistance of the UEA) also selling advertising(as most land in norfolk - even around Norwich - is only farmland the costs shouldn''t prove too great), the club would almost certainly end up in profit should end in profit from such a venture. though tangie may not be too happy;-)however the whole venture does not stop there...now i remember with the start of the collider there were fears that it may create tiny black holes that (as is the way of black holes) grow to consume the earth. however if we can create one, and nourish it enough, then the ticky part begins, although with the help of the UEA it should be a problem. we need to create a white hole, which at the moment is only theoretical (although for the last 50 years - pretty much the same time between us being in the third division (coincidence!!!) so was the higgs-boson) and then wrap this round the aforesaid black hole, creating a theoretical time loop, that allows us to move backwards in time and build a stadium on plush green fields. parking would obviously not be a problem, you could make the entrance to the black/white hole outside analready or even a specially built train station.and best of all, all this new technology could be sold off or sponsored, thereby making us the richest club in the world whilst still abiding by UEFA''s new financial fair play laws. oh and the UEA would get a load of new parking/teaching space free of charge for helping us create this new technology, norwich airport would be the only place in the world that could fly to the past (not including time zones), threby making it the most popular airport in the world. norwich the centre of the the universe and ncfc the biggest and best (as we all know it to already be) club in the universe.come on mcnally you know it makes sense.

[Lets be aving you! 0]

Quality post and sound reasoning, i,coopius!

 

Perhaps you could team up with Tom and present your proposals jointly to McNally. If you could take a hidden microphone and camera for us, all the better, then we can all see how it goes. Good luck!

 

PS. Would said black/white hole have teaching facilities, space for parking or peppercorns?